RIP Nelson Mandela

[Anonymous]

Did anyone watch the state funeral for Nelson Mandela?



I might watch it on youtube tonight.

[Odinson]

Hero like a Fidel Castro.



He was sent to the slammer because he was a partisan/terrorist.



Africa does not belong to the blacks.



Johannesburg used to look alot different 20years ago.

[Anonymous]

Did anyone catch that story about the fake hearing impaired translator? When Obama was speaking some guy was signing and it was 100% jibberish. Wtf??

[cc]

Yes. Bizarre



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[cc]

[Anonymous]

^^Yeah, I saw that CC. How weird eh? Who was he and how the fuck did he up there?

[Anonymous]

It is very unusual.

[Anonymous]

After the death of Mao, Deng Xiao Ping wanted to take the great helmsman down off his pedestal and make a man out of the gawd. I want to say that I would never compare a megalomaniacal butcher like Mao to the first fully democratically elected leader of South Africa. However, he was just a man and his legacy is far from perfect.

In Britain, a man was arrested, questioned for eight hours, had his computer confiscated for investigation and was DNA tested and fingerprinted. His crime? He made a joke about how his laptop took so long to shut down he should call it Nelson Mandela.



Not funny, perhaps tasteless, but completely innocuous. Britain is submerged in political correctness these days, but the incident also says a great deal about the Mandela hagiography industry.



He was a man of immense personal grace and dignity, with an ability to forgive that was magnificent. He was often gentle, kind and farsighted, and envisaged a free, liberal, and strong South Africa free of hatred. He also became the icon of the struggle against the evils of apartheid.



But he also left a country internationally notorious for murder, rape, AIDS, poverty, carjackings, unemployment, corruption and racial division.Indeed there are black leaders who argue that their people, while obviously victimized by institutionalized racism, were economically better off under apartheid than under the ANC.



They point to 30% unemployment rates in the country as a whole, rising to beyond 40% for the black community.



They argue the rights of black workers are as minimal as they were under minority rule, highlighted by the police killing of 44 striking miners in Marikana in 2012.



Housing for the majority of black South Africans is still deplorable, townships have improved hardly at all and violence within poor black communities is endemic.



Mandela can't be blamed for all of the failures of his successors, and the challenges of the country are enormous, but his period as president was far from stellar. And while attempts at reconciliation were exemplary, he was weak on economic policy and failed to halt the clawing corruption of the ANC government.



The country's foreign policy is also a disaster, witnessing an increasingly intimate relationship with China and a refusal to condemn that country's support for murderous, oppressive regimes in Sudan, Burma, and Zimbabwe. South Africa has also become a base for numerous Islamic jihadist groups, to the point where Israelis have been advised not to visit the country due to security concerns.



The added tragedy is that none of these negative trends show any signs of reversing, and South Africans — white and black — live in fear of the most sadistic crimes and assume that an inefficient and often indifferent police force will never catch the culprits.



The whites who stayed in South Africa tended to be those who had hopes and optimism for the new rainbow nation, but in a recent survey more than 20% of them said they believed apartheid to have been superior to what they have now.



Extremism, paranoia and conspiracy theories abound, ethnic tensions are always just below the surface and refugees from neighbouring states are victims of violence if not murder.



I don't really care if Mandela was once pro-Communist or flirted with violence, in that he was the victim of a brutal, hateful regime.



I do care, though, that he is being lauded as the man who saved a country that is about as far from genuine salvation as we can imagine. It's simply a lie.

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[cc]

That is a sound assessment of S Africa yesterday and today. He was hope & change to many, but the corruption, abject poverty, mismanagement,  violence and fear of violence among ALL of its people remain

[Anonymous]

That is a sound assessment of S Africa yesterday and today. He was hope & change to many, but the corruption, abject poverty, mismanagement,  violence and fear of violence among ALL of its people remain

Yes and these things to should be remembered, not swept under the carpet.

[Odinson]

The blacks are now attacking every non-black in there so thank you Mandela! May that commie asshole burn in hell.



He was the Osama Bin Laden of his time. People have just forgotten about that.



I wonder why they kept him alive in the prison. I would have executed him publicly before he became famous... Sure there would have been few riots but nothing serious.



Now we can just observe the S-african infrastructure slowly decaying.

[Gary Oak]

Nelson Mandela was a terrorist stooge of China and was taking their help all along.

[Romero]

The blacks are now attacking every non-black in there so thank you Mandela!

No they're not.



See? You're racist over stuff you're making up out of thin air.

[Odinson]

They are... Was it near 100000 non-blacks murdered in less than a decade. Women butchered with a broken bottle. Young girls mutilated, raped and murdered.



Funny that you havent googled some stat by now...

You know they are not supporting your claim.



Dont answer my posts... Girlfriend. lol

[Romero]

Was it near 100000 non-blacks murdered in less than a decade.

False.