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We Deserve Smarter Spending On Aboriginals

Started by Anonymous, December 20, 2013, 03:38:22 PM

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Quote from: "cc li tarte"Breaks mine also. Please, no appologies needed. On the subject of mismanagement of moneys that could be directed to help, that sadness becomes anger for me ... as "good" help is so needed ..... had money been better used decades ago in the right way today's situation would likely be a lot different..



BTW. Was raised near the Six Nations reserve and went to high school with many and many were good friends .. mainly Mohawks. Also spent a summer living on a reserve as mate was doing a construction project not long ago in Sask near Broadview ... one of the greatest summers of my life. Natives are very special to me and I get very angry at the way their entire situation has been handled for decades ... govt stupidity and band leader corruption very common



Point of interest - Dated Tonto's  nephew in high school - (Tonto = Jay SilverHeels acting name - Harold Smith real name, lol) .... his nephew was Smith also and I had a major crush on him. Now you have me thinking about all the good times with natives at school and many weekends spent staying with friends on the famous Six Nations reserve near Brantford ON where I lived at the time. While there were 5 other tribes with them, I happened into a neat group of proud Mohawks that adopted me into their midst. Superb and proud people ... mind you Mohawks historically tended to lead the Iroquois tribes and made themselves into the reserve elite.



Sorry. I got myself all nostalgic about an especially  great period in my life now.  :D

Holy fuck, I never dated anyone with a famous relative. I agree with everything you say CC. The system is rotten from the head down. This kind of corruption has made a handful of chiefs very fucking wealthy, but works against the interests of rank and file Natives as well as Canadian taxpayers in general. I too have worked with Native bands and spent time on reserves. Not all reserves are poorly managed, but too many are.



BTW CC, I always liked that av. :)

Odinson

Sheet the best I´ve fucked was a miss scandinavia candidate.. But I was in my late teens and she was older so it was quite an accomplisment.



And then some brazilian photo model.. Adressa or Andressa something. Might have been Angelika. Anyhow, I didn´t understand what she was saying 90% of the time.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Odinson"Sheet the best I´ve fucked was a miss scandinavia candidate.. But I was in my late teens and she was older so it was quite an accomplisment.



And then some brazilian photo model.. Adressa or Andressa something. Might have been Angelika. Anyhow, I didn´t understand what she was saying 90% of the time.

I say this is your Andressa/Angelika.

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTrWz8L-4qOE_soQLSdepUkWwOmAMBkvPl3BEfCvxnLRxh3q2cT">

Odinson

Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"Sheet the best I´ve fucked was a miss scandinavia candidate.. But I was in my late teens and she was older so it was quite an accomplisment.



And then some brazilian photo model.. Adressa or Andressa something. Might have been Angelika. Anyhow, I didn´t understand what she was saying 90% of the time.

I say this is your Andressa/Angelika.

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTrWz8L-4qOE_soQLSdepUkWwOmAMBkvPl3BEfCvxnLRxh3q2cT">


The name was something like that. I never wank... Sometimes put porn sounds on though. Doesnt work with the current one. Maybe she is not slut enough, yet.



Agnes... Something exotic. I just remember that she had those latina curves.  :D



Odie is a cunning linguist. The no class thing really works because since when has a big forest man had any class. :D



No1 expects me to be a gent and that is why I get very honest sex talk from females.



We all have our gimmicks... Yours is the asian chick whom actually has booty and mine is big bear man from beyond the wolf-line... Or a vicious nazi.

cc

While I'm on a roll, he was also the head Mohawk Chief's grandson ..... lol



Avy? Yes, my "Horny Dear" Avy



I never know whether to use it or this
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: "cc li tarte"While I'm on a roll, he was also the head Mohawk Chief's grandson ..... lol



Avy? Yes, my "Horny Dear" Avy



I never know whether to use it or this

Yep, I remember that one. Good one too!

Anonymous

Quote from: "cc li tarte"While I'm on a roll, he was also the head Mohawk Chief's grandson ..... lol



Avy? Yes, my "Horny Dear" Avy



I never know whether to use it or this

Oh my goodness Ms. cc li tarte, they are both so cute.

 :)

Anonymous

Quote from: "cc li tarte"Breaks mine also. Please, no appologies needed. On the subject of mismanagement of moneys that could be directed to help, that sadness becomes anger for me ... as "good" help is so needed ..... had money been better used decades ago in the right way today's situation would likely be a lot different..



BTW. Was raised near the Six Nations reserve and went to high school with many and many were good friends .. mainly Mohawks. Also spent a summer living on a reserve as mate was doing a construction project not long ago in Sask near Broadview ... one of the greatest summers of my life. Natives are very special to me and I get very angry at the way their entire situation has been handled for decades ... govt stupidity and band leader corruption very common



Point of interest - Dated Tonto's  nephew in high school - (Tonto = Jay SilverHeels acting name - Harold Smith real name, lol) .... his nephew was Smith also and I had a major crush on him. Now you have me thinking about all the good times with natives at school and many weekends spent staying with friends on the famous Six Nations reserve near Brantford ON where I lived at the time. While there were 5 other tribes with them, I happened into a neat group of proud Mohawks that adopted me into their midst. Superb and proud people ... mind you Mohawks historically tended to lead the Iroquois tribes and made themselves into the reserve elite.



Sorry. I got myself all nostalgic about an especially  great period in my life now.  :D

Hey, you grew up not that far from me. 8-)

cc

Oh, really. Which town or area were you in?
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: "cc li tarte"Oh, really. Which town or area were you in?

I think seoulbro is from the greater Toronto area Ms. cc li tarte, but I could be wrong.

Hornung

Quote from: "Gary Oak"
Quote from: "cc li tarte"
Quote from: "Fashionista"Shen Li, Aboriginals' quality of life is so much lower than the general population..



How can you have so little empathy?
I didn't read it all, but if I'm reading it right, that is part of Shen's point. She is attacking the extremely poor use of funds .... band councils keeping funds for themselves .... funds that should go to helping people,  should even go toward helping them to become more independent.



The govt. also plays a role as they do not follow up to make sure that funds go where they should go. Their inaction is inexcusable.



Speaking out against misuse of funds such that the money does not go to help people is not lack of empathy. It could even be the opposite

If we doubled or tripled the amount of money we give the chugaboos it won`t change a thing. Well, they will have even more money for booze and wreck even more new pickup trucks.

Clearly you are you are f*cked in the head Gary Oak. Only a stupid racist, sinophobic, conspiracy theory arsewipe piece of shite nutcase, Gary Oak? Who is going to believe in a piece of shite lying racist troll like you Gary Oak? Maybe your racist and sinophobic idiot spammer liar friend Shen Li. Is that how a idiotic moronic retard LOSER like you get your jollies by spamming about this racist non-selling self-published poorly written loser book for almost two years on MMB now on several threads?

cc

I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: "cc li tarte"Eh?

Hello Ms. cc li tarte, I agree.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Hornung"Clearly you are you are f*cked in the head Gary Oak. Only a stupid racist, sinophobic, conspiracy theory arsewipe piece of shite nutcase, Gary Oak? Who is going to believe in a piece of shite lying racist troll like you Gary Oak? Maybe your racist and sinophobic idiot spammer liar friend Shen Li. Is that how a idiotic moronic retard LOSER like you get your jollies by spamming about this racist non-selling self-published poorly written loser book for almost two years on MMB now on several threads?

Hornung wearing his X-mas present.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSiPUE2NWURiY-V8reWh5dVv5163CbBfRZut8Tfyb2L67XIQPaW">

Anonymous

So much money is spent, at least in theory on Aboriginals. In reality, too much of that money is being spent on civil servants, lawyers, and consultants.



By Lorrie Goldstein of Sun News Media



Big spending really hasn't helped Indigenous Canadians, says new report



Billions of dollars in increased federal government spending has failed to improve the standard of living for Indigenous Canadians, according to a new study by the Fraser Institute.



Despite a four-fold increase in spending between 1981 and 2016, the gap between Indigenous Canadians and other Canadians based on the Community Well-Being Index, which uses census data to measure income, employment, housing and formal education every five years, has barely budged in 35 years



In 1981 the gap was 19.5 points, compared to 19.1 points in 2016.



The Fraser study, Promise and Performance: Recent Trends in Government Expenditures on Indigenous Peoples warns that based on this data, a planned 50% increase in Indigenous spending to more than $17 billion annually in 2021-22, compared to $11 billion in 20152016, won't improve the lives of Indigenous Canadians.



Study author Tom Flanagan says the problem is that [size=150]"the majority of the outlay goes to civil servants and consultants, not to Indigenous persons."[/size]



"Clearly, more money hasn't meaningfully improved living standards for First Nations in Canada," Flanagan says.



"A constant flow of money from Ottawa has failed to solve the problems plaguing small, remote First Nations communities, yet the federal government continues to increase federal spending on Indigenous programs without material reforms."



Flanagan argues the biggest problem facing First Nations is a lack of economic opportunity because 70% of reserves are located more than 50 km from the nearest town or city and almost 20% have no yearround road connections to them.



"Development of natural resources such as forestry, oil and gas and minerals is by far the best hope that remote First Nations can have for prosperity," he writes. "Governments can overcome distance by fostering infrastructure, including roads, railways, pipelines, power lines, communication towers and harbours."



One problem with this, however, is that many First Nations are divided on the issue of pipelines crossing their lands.



Flanagan says one of the issues that most angers the public is the failure of federal governments of all political stripes to provide safe drinking water to all reserves.



The Trudeau government recently announced it will not fulfill its 2015 election promise to end all boil water advisories on reserves by March, 2021, and will now need to almost double the $1.65 billion it has already spent to complete the work.



The Fraser study reaches many of the same conclusions as a 2018 investigation by Canada's late auditor general, Michael Ferguson, who described the inability of Liberal and Conservative governments to improve the lives of Indigenous Canadians as an "incomprehensible failure."



"There are so many discussions about the need to close the socio-economic gaps between Indigenous people and other Canadians in this country and we don't see those gaps closing," Ferguson wrote.



"We don't even see that they (the federal government) know how to measure those gaps."



The previous Conservative government of Stephen Harper passed the First Nations Financial Transparency Act in a bid to get a handle on government spending on reserves.



However, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau suspended its most controversial provision in late 2015, which permitted the federal government to withhold funding from any band that failed to produce annual audited financial statements or disclose the salaries of chiefs and band councillors.



That said, studies by the federal auditor general have concluded that while federal, provincial and First Nations governments have all contributed to the problems, "most of the responsibility falls on the federal government."