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What They Don’t Tell You About Electric Vehicles

Started by Anonymous, December 27, 2020, 02:10:27 PM

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Anonymous

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Dunno, but she's the type



I agree progs are drawn to them trying to prove something is always their priority

I think she does own one. It's a virtue signalling status symbol.

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https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/honda-toyota-reject-democrats-pro-union-electric-car-subsidy">Honda and Toyota, which have the combined capacity to build over 3.5 million cars in the U.S., have come out against a Democrat-backed electric car subsidy proposal that favors union-made vehicles.



The plan, introduced Friday as part of the House Ways and Means Committee's $3.5 trillion spending bill, would increase the current maximum $7,500 credit available for battery-powered vehicles by $4,500 for those built at plants that use union workers.



It would also add $500 for vehicles that use battery packs produced with at least 50% U.S. manufacturing for a total possible credit of $12,500. The plan would be in place for five years, followed by a flat $7,500 credit for American-made electric vehicles.



[While I'm in favor of the concept of "briefly" assisting new technology .. keyword = "briefly" ...NOT long-term



1. The way I see it is if something cannot compete, it has no place



2. Worse, it is the well off who mainly buy these clunkers .. so how can one justify subsidizing  the well off vs Joe & Jane regular people?



3. It is not ethically right for a government to assist unions .. not their job .. it's just a left vote buyer
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I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

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1. The way I see it is if something cannot compete, it has no place



2. Worse, it is the well off who mainly buy these clunkers .. so how can one justify subsidizing  the well off vs Joe & Jane regular people?



3. It is not ethically right for a government to assist unions or not unions .. not their job[/i]

You are one hundred percent correct. Somebody working at Home Depot should not be subsidizing vehicles for lawyers.



As for unionized plants. I live close to the Honda plant in Allistion, Ontario. It's a non union shop. Before this pandemic, they had never laid off a single production employee in the thirty five years since the palnt opened. Can the Chrysler plant in Windsor say that? The Ford plant in Oakville? No, they can't. And Honda has comparable wages, benefits and a defined benefit pension plan.

Anonymous

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Quote from: cc post_id=420341 time=1631545428 user_id=88


1. The way I see it is if something cannot compete, it has no place



2. Worse, it is the well off who mainly buy these clunkers .. so how can one justify subsidizing  the well off vs Joe & Jane regular people?



3. It is not ethically right for a government to assist unions or not unions .. not their job[/i]

You are one hundred percent correct. Somebody working at Home Depot should not be subsidizing vehicles for lawyers.



As for unionized plants. I live close to the Honda plant in Allistion, Ontario. It's a non union shop. Before this pandemic, they had never laid off a single production employee in the thirty five years since the palnt opened. Can the Chrysler plant in Windsor say that? The Ford plant in Oakville? No, they can't. And Honda has comparable wages, benefits and a defined benefit pension plan.

Blue collar workers once again subsidizing rich progs.

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//Two%20People%20Killed%20After%20Tesla%20Crashes%20Into%20A%20Tree%20And%20Becomes%20"Engulfed%20In%20Flames"%20In%20Florida



Two people were killed on Monday night this week after a Tesla crashed into a tree in Coral Gables, Florida.



https://cms.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/crash1_0.png?itok=XTM9lnEo">



The "fiery wreck" took place at the intersection of Alhambra Circle and Coral Way, according to Local 10. Local police said the driver crashed the car into a tree, but no further details about the accident have been determined yet.



Cellphone video of the wreck shows the vehicle "engulfed in flames" and both occupants of the vehicle were killed. "That's a Tesla," the person taking the video of the wreck can be heard saying.



Authorities spent Tuesday collecting evidence at the scene of the accident and an investigation is ongoing. The driver was a 20 year old male and the passenger was a 19 year old woman, the report says.



{Sounds like battery fire killed them .. or at least made sure they were dead}
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

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//Two%20People%20Killed%20After%20Tesla%20Crashes%20Into%20A%20Tree%20And%20Becomes%20"Engulfed%20In%20Flames"%20In%20Florida



Two people were killed on Monday night this week after a Tesla crashed into a tree in Coral Gables, Florida.



https://cms.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/crash1_0.png?itok=XTM9lnEo">



The "fiery wreck" took place at the intersection of Alhambra Circle and Coral Way, according to Local 10. Local police said the driver crashed the car into a tree, but no further details about the accident have been determined yet.



Cellphone video of the wreck shows the vehicle "engulfed in flames" and both occupants of the vehicle were killed. "That's a Tesla," the person taking the video of the wreck can be heard saying.



Authorities spent Tuesday collecting evidence at the scene of the accident and an investigation is ongoing. The driver was a 20 year old male and the passenger was a 19 year old woman, the report says.



{Sounds like battery fire killed them .. or at least made sure they were dead}

It aint easy putting out battrery fires.

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Quote from: seoulbro post_id=420342 time=1631545949 user_id=114
Quote from: cc post_id=420341 time=1631545428 user_id=88


1. The way I see it is if something cannot compete, it has no place



2. Worse, it is the well off who mainly buy these clunkers .. so how can one justify subsidizing  the well off vs Joe & Jane regular people?



3. It is not ethically right for a government to assist unions or not unions .. not their job[/i]

You are one hundred percent correct. Somebody working at Home Depot should not be subsidizing vehicles for lawyers.



Exactly - It is ethically wrong
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

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https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-58928706">Self-Driving Waymo Cars Clog Up Dead-End San Francisco Street



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Residents in a "dead-end" street in San Francisco say they are being plagued by an influx of self-driving vehicles.



Autonomous-driving firm Waymo's cars have been going up and down the cul-de-sac at all hours "for weeks", according to local news station KPIX.



Residents say vehicles sometimes have to queue before making multi-point turns to leave the way they came.



Waymo says the vehicles are just "obeying road rules" designed to limit traffic in certain residential streets.



 :roll:
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

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Self-Driving Waymo Cars Clog Up Dead-End San Francisco Street



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Residents in a "dead-end" street in San Francisco say they are being plagued by an influx of self-driving vehicles.



Autonomous-driving firm Waymo's cars have been going up and down the cul-de-sac at all hours "for weeks", according to local news station KPIX.



Residents say vehicles sometimes have to queue before making multi-point turns to leave the way they came.



Waymo says the vehicles are just "obeying road rules" designed to limit traffic in certain residential streets.



 :roll:

It's not like SF didn't have enough problems created by leftist loons.

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This dumbfk actually thinks jobs in other countries is a selling point tor Americans



Duhhhh



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I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

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Anonymous

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This dumbfk actually thinks jobs in other countries is a selling point tor Americans



Duhhhh



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Facories are ugly and he believes the US owes it to it's billionaires to provide them with beautiful scenery. Fuck blue collar Americans.

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https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2021/nov/08/cobalt-drc-miners-toil-for-30p-an-hour-to-fuel-electric-cars">'Like slave and master': DRC miners toil for 30p an hour to fuel electric cars



Congolese workers describe a system of abuse, precarious employment and paltry wages – all to power the green vehicle revolution



The names Tesla, Renault and Volvo mean nothing to Pierre*. He has never heard of an electric car. But as he heads out to work each morning in the bustling, dusty town of Fungurume, in the Democratic Republic of Congo's southern mining belt, he is the first link in a supply chain that is fuelling the electric vehicle revolution and its promise of a decarbonised future.



Pierre is mining for cobalt, one of the world's most sought-after minerals, and a key ingredient in the batteries that power most electric vehicles (EVs).



https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/f57421557497b78b062ceab26d86b70a02f9a37b/0_0_5000_3000/master/5000.jpg?width=940&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=b188eba3cff1e0e6ea668738ea9434e1">
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

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'Like slave and master']



Congolese workers describe a system of abuse, precarious employment and paltry wages – all to power the green vehicle revolution



The names Tesla, Renault and Volvo mean nothing to Pierre*. He has never heard of an electric car. But as he heads out to work each morning in the bustling, dusty town of Fungurume, in the Democratic Republic of Congo's southern mining belt, he is the first link in a supply chain that is fuelling the electric vehicle revolution and its promise of a decarbonised future.



Pierre is mining for cobalt, one of the world's most sought-after minerals, and a key ingredient in the batteries that power most electric vehicles (EVs).



https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/f57421557497b78b062ceab26d86b70a02f9a37b/0_0_5000_3000/master/5000.jpg?width=940&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=b188eba3cff1e0e6ea668738ea9434e1">

All so climate alarmists in developed countries can feel smug.

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Doug Ford Bad Man



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Premier Doug Ford is dismissing the idea of bringing back a rebate to encourage Ontarians to buy more electric vehicles, even though the province is lagging behind much of the country in sales.



"I'm not going to give rebates to guys that are buying $100,000 cars — millionaires," he said Wednesday, even though his own government says it's counting on rising sales of those electric vehicles (EVs) to help bring down greenhouse gas emissions.



In 2018, Ford's government cancelled the Electric and Hydrogen Vehicle Incentive Program, brought in by the Liberals under Kathleen Wynne.



at least one advocate says the province can't get there without offering incentives - Well Tough Titty!!! - if any item cannot support itself / carry its own weight  economically, it has earned and deserves no place in society
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell