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Canadian oil is bad. My french fries never get crispy when cooked in that stuff. I had to stop more of it from coming in.

Anonymous

Joe Biden to Canada: Drop Dead



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It's not clear why adding a new pipeline to an existing network built in previous phases of the Keystone project would be thought such a heinous environmental crime (Keystone XL is the fourth phase). Nor why this particular leg of pipeline is considered so threatening in a country that already has a couple of million miles of pipeline.



The charge is that Keystone XL, by making it easier for Canada to export its "dirty" oil from the oil sands of Alberta, will herald the beginning of a fossil-fuels apocalypse.



But we already consume lots of petroleum from the oil sands. According to the Canadian government, 97 percent of its proven reserves are located in the oil sands, and the oil sands account for more than 60 percent of the country's current oil production.



Canada is the third-largest exporter of crude oil in the world, and 98 percent of that goes to the United States, accounting for almost half of our imports of crude oil.



In a more rational time, it was considered a good thing to get oil from a country that isn't located in the Middle East, isn't a petro-dictatorship, and isn't hostile to the United States.



The enemies of Keystone XL have used litigation to tie up the project, even though it has passed multiple massive regulatory reviews. When it seemed it could finally get underway in earnest, here comes Joe Biden to put the kibosh on it again.



If Biden really wants to restore our alliances, telling our friendly neighbor to the north to "drop dead" is a funny way to do it.

Anonymous

A message from our premier to Jim Crow Joe.



Today, America inaugurated the 46th President of the United States. As Canada's closest ally and trading partner, let's hope for the success and prosperity of the United States under the leadership of President Biden.



Saskatchewan will continue to advocate for our interests with the new administration, including protecting the important trade and export supply chain between our nations and strengthening North America's energy security.



To this end, it is incredibly troubling that TC Energy has suspended work on Keystone XL in light of the pipeline's looming cancelation by the Biden administration. Now is the time for our nations to strengthen our trading relationship, not erect further barriers to collaborative and sustainable development.

Anonymous

It doesn't matter whether the gasoline in the tank of a Cadillac Escalade in Houston is refined from Canadian oil or West Texas oil — the relevant emissions come overwhelmingly from the point of combustion.

Anonymous

The town of Oyen in southeastern Alberta has been enjoying a rare thing in the province these past few months: an economic boom.



The community has been bustling with pipeline workers who arrived by the hundreds last summer to help build the Canadian leg of the Keystone XL pipeline.



Doug Dingman, who owns a grocery and liquor store in the community, said his business has been up 20 per cent with the crews in town and he thought they'd be around until next fall.



Those workers could soon start hitting the highway out of town as TC Energy announced a suspension in the project on Wednesday, after U.S. President Joe Biden pulled the permit for the proposed pipeline and rejoined the Paris climate accord as expected.

@realAzhyaAryola

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Blue collar workers who voted for Biden and Trudeau need their heads examined.


I agree.
@realAzhyaAryola



[size=80]Sometimes, my comments have a touch of humor, often tongue-in-cheek, so don\'t take it so seriously.[/size]

@realAzhyaAryola

Quote from: Fashionista post_id=398267 time=1610938773 user_id=3254
Quote from: cc post_id=398242 time=1610930922 user_id=88
Biden to prioritize blocking of Keystone XL pipeline extension



On the day that U.S. President-elect Joe Biden takes office, he intends to kill the Keystone XL Pipeline deal, according to documents reviewed by CTV News.



TORONTO -- A source close to the transition team of U.S. President-elect Joe Biden has told CTV News that the new president will kill the Keystone XL pipeline after taking office.



According to the transition briefing documents, reviewed by CTV News' Washington Bureau Correspondent Richard Madan, the plan to use an executive order is listed under Wednesday, Jan.20, his first day of office.



The Keystone XL pipeline extension is a controversial cross-border project that seeks to build upon existing infrastructure transporting Canadian crude oil into the U.S. It aims to deliver 830,000 barrels of oil from Hardisty, Alta. to Steele City, Neb., and would cost approximately US$8 billion.



https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/america-votes/biden-to-prioritize-blocking-of-keystone-xl-pipeline-extension-1.5270600">https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/america-vo ... -1.5270600">https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/america-votes/biden-to-prioritize-blocking-of-keystone-xl-pipeline-extension-1.5270600



[ I hope likeminded Trudy and he don't get together, get all excited  and ...  well you know, don't make me say it ]

I'm not surprised, but I didn't think it would be immediately..



It just means our oil to the USA Gulf Coast gets there by train.


Can you prove that? I think the USA will be forced to get oil from Venezuela and the Middle East.
@realAzhyaAryola



[size=80]Sometimes, my comments have a touch of humor, often tongue-in-cheek, so don\'t take it so seriously.[/size]

Anonymous

Quote from: @realAzhyaAryola post_id=398650 time=1611252962 user_id=73
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=398267 time=1610938773 user_id=3254
Quote from: cc post_id=398242 time=1610930922 user_id=88
Biden to prioritize blocking of Keystone XL pipeline extension



On the day that U.S. President-elect Joe Biden takes office, he intends to kill the Keystone XL Pipeline deal, according to documents reviewed by CTV News.



TORONTO -- A source close to the transition team of U.S. President-elect Joe Biden has told CTV News that the new president will kill the Keystone XL pipeline after taking office.



According to the transition briefing documents, reviewed by CTV News' Washington Bureau Correspondent Richard Madan, the plan to use an executive order is listed under Wednesday, Jan.20, his first day of office.



The Keystone XL pipeline extension is a controversial cross-border project that seeks to build upon existing infrastructure transporting Canadian crude oil into the U.S. It aims to deliver 830,000 barrels of oil from Hardisty, Alta. to Steele City, Neb., and would cost approximately US$8 billion.



https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/america-votes/biden-to-prioritize-blocking-of-keystone-xl-pipeline-extension-1.5270600">https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/america-vo ... -1.5270600">https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/america-votes/biden-to-prioritize-blocking-of-keystone-xl-pipeline-extension-1.5270600



[ I hope likeminded Trudy and he don't get together, get all excited  and ...  well you know, don't make me say it ]

I'm not surprised, but I didn't think it would be immediately..



It just means our oil to the USA Gulf Coast gets there by train.


Can you prove that? I think the USA will be forced to get oil from Venezuela and the Middle East.

I don't know about Gulf Coast refineries, but Western Canadian crude shipments by rail to the US soared prior to the pandemic.



You are right though, crude from other nations brought in by ship will fill the void of an emissions free pipeline from Canada.

Anonymous

The Alberta premier said "If, however, the U.S. government refuses to open the door to a constructive and respectful dialogue about these issues, then it is clear that the Government of Canada must impose meaningful trade and economic sanctions in response to defend our country's vital economic interests." If Stephen Harper was still pm, that is exactly what would happen.



Jason Kenney likened the situation to then-president Donald Trump's promise to rip up NAFTA, and to the U.S. imposing tariffs on aluminum and steel in 2018, which led to Canada retaliating with tariffs of its own and suggested energy, as a larger export industry, deserves a similar response.

Oliver Clotheshoffe

I took this screenshot on YouTube about five minutes ago -





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Life is too short to be in a hurry

Anonymous

Quote from: "Oliver Clotheshoffe" post_id=398654 time=1611257536 user_id=3349
I took this screenshot on YouTube about five minutes ago -





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 :roll:

Anonymous

Trudeau has been so anti-oil himself during his five plus years in office (including not objecting loudly to the Obama administration's first cancellation of Keystone in 2015), that the incoming Biden administration must have known our Liberals wouldn't put up much of a stink if it killed Keystone.



When the former Trump administration slapped punitive tariffs on Ontario and Quebec steel and aluminum in 2018, the Trudeau government imposed $16 billion worth of countervailing tariffs on U.S. goods the very same day. By contrast, when Alberta oil was attacked on Wednesday: nothing.



Also, Trudeau can be blamed for making the death of Keystone matter so much. Had Trudeau not killed two other all-Canadian pipelines — Energy East and Northern Gateway — the end of Keystone wouldn't be such a crippling blow.



Trudeau put too many of Canada's energy eggs in the Keystone basket and now Biden has stomped on them.



Yes, Trudeau said Wednesday he was "disappointed" by Biden's decision, but his ambassador in Washington, D.C. said Canadians should "accept" the Keystone cancellation and "move forward."

Anonymous

The union-friendly Progressive Contractors Association of Canada puts the job losses on both sides of the border at close to 60,000.



So it's easy to see in Biden's Day-One move just where his administration's heart is: It's with urban elites and professional protesters. It's with "woke" social-media activists and the Gretanistas of the world. It's definitely not with unionized tradespeople, Indigenous investors or small oilfield service contractors.



A consortium of four Canadian First Nations, for instance, is out as much as $700 million in Keystone investments thanks to Biden's move. Thousands of members of at least four major U.S. trade unions will miss out on about three years of wellpaid work.



And please don't tell me they can all get comparable jobs in "green" energy, installing wind turbines and fixing solar panels, for example. Alternate energy sources such as solar and wind rely on imports from China and still need to be backed up by concentrated energy sources like natural gas

Anonymous

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau had previously vowed to press whoever was president on the need to get the important pipeline built.  He immediately dropped that commitment to Canadians.



Biden is just reversing decisions made by Trump simply to spite the now former president.

Anonymous

https://twitter.com/SenTedCruz/status/1352040800646029312?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1352040800646029312%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theblaze.com%2Fnews%2Fseth-rogen-fascist-ted-cruz-response">https://twitter.com/SenTedCruz/status/1 ... z-response">https://twitter.com/SenTedCruz/status/1352040800646029312?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1352040800646029312%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theblaze.com%2Fnews%2Fseth-rogen-fascist-ted-cruz-response



Seth Rogen, who apparently took issue with Cruz's sentiments, responded, "F*** off you fascist."



Cruz shared a screenshot of Rogen's profane response, and captioned it, "Charming, civil, educated response. ⁦@Sethrogen⁩ If you're a rich, angry Hollywood celebrity, today's Dems are the party for you. If you're blue-collar, if you're a union member, if you work in energy or manufacturing...not so much. #JobsMatter[.]"