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41 Inconvenient Truths on the "New Energy Economy"

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Thiel

21. In order to compensate for episodic wind/solar output, U.S. utilities are using oil- and gas-burning reciprocating engines (big cruise-ship-like diesels); three times as many have been added to the grid since 2000 as in the 50 years prior to that.

That goes against the narrative that we are "transitioning."



39. A battery-centric grid and car world means mining gigatons more of the earth to access lithium, copper, nickel, graphite, rare earths, cobalt, etc.—and using millions of tons of oil and coal both in mining and to fabricate metals and concrete.

Sustainablity of electric cars, lol.
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Anonymous

Quote from: Thiel post_id=444167 time=1647857174 user_id=1688
21. In order to compensate for episodic wind/solar output, U.S. utilities are using oil- and gas-burning reciprocating engines (big cruise-ship-like diesels); three times as many have been added to the grid since 2000 as in the 50 years prior to that.

That goes against the narrative that we are "transitioning."



39. A battery-centric grid and car world means mining gigatons more of the earth to access lithium, copper, nickel, graphite, rare earths, cobalt, etc.—and using millions of tons of oil and coal both in mining and to fabricate metals and concrete.

Sustainablity of electric cars, lol.

Number twenty one is quite surprising.

Anonymous

Good thread Herm. It debunks what is shoved down our throats about wind, solar and electric vehicles.

cc

Herm. Do you have a link for that?



I'd like to keep and possibly give it to others



EDIT - I searched on quotes and found this "Fee Stories" - https://fee.org/articles/41-inconvenient-truths-on-the-new-energy-economy/">https://fee.org/articles/41-inconvenien ... y-economy/">https://fee.org/articles/41-inconvenient-truths-on-the-new-energy-economy/



by Mark P. Mills



Interestingly, he says " Bill Gates has said that when it comes to understanding energy realities "we need to bring math to the problem."



He's right. So, in my recent Manhattan Institute report, "The New Energy Economy: An Exercise in Magical Thinking," I did just that.



Herein, then, is a summary of some of the bottom-line realities from the underlying math. (See the full report for explanations, documentation, and citations.)



TITLE: Realities About the Scale of Energy Demand



Good spot Herm - He did it at the  Manhattan Institute in 2019
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Frood

Quote from: cc post_id=444202 time=1647879945 user_id=88
Herm. Do you have a link for that?



I'd like to keep and possibly give it to others



EDIT - I searched on quotes and found this "Fee Stories" - https://fee.org/articles/41-inconvenient-truths-on-the-new-energy-economy/">https://fee.org/articles/41-inconvenien ... y-economy/">https://fee.org/articles/41-inconvenient-truths-on-the-new-energy-economy/



by Mark P. Mills


You're so polite with him....
Blahhhhhh...

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Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=444203 time=1647880395 user_id=1676
Quote from: cc post_id=444202 time=1647879945 user_id=88
Herm. Do you have a link for that?



I'd like to keep and possibly give it to others



EDIT - I searched on quotes and found this "Fee Stories" - https://fee.org/articles/41-inconvenient-truths-on-the-new-energy-economy/">https://fee.org/articles/41-inconvenien ... y-economy/">https://fee.org/articles/41-inconvenient-truths-on-the-new-energy-economy/



by Mark P. Mills


You're so polite with him....

always
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous


Anonymous

If Canada had built LNG export facilities and countries like Germany hadn't blocked nuclear and fracking, the average German would not have to freeze in the dark.


QuoteGreen energy enclaves such as Germany, where the Russian gas supply crisis has led to a major energy crunch that has left the country more dependent on wind that doesn't blow and sun that doesn't shine when needed. Over the last month or so, German winds have slowed significantly, further exacerbating a major national energy crisis that is also sweeping across Europe.



Consumer energy prices have soared throughout the EU, with looming shortages of energy that could stretch out for years. At the EU summit on Thursday, the need to start building stockpiles of oil and gas to supply energy for next winter were discussed. In the United Kingdom, household energy bills could more than double to 3,000 pounds ($5,000). As supply tightens and uncertainty grows, the price of oil could hit US$200 a barrel. The value of fossil fuel company shares on the Toronto and other markets are helping to boost stock market prices to record levels.



A Washington Post summary of the options included increased gas imports, along with a host of other options:



Plug pipeline leaks: Plugging these leaks could save Europe up to 2.5 billion cubic metres by the end of this year. Preventing seepage would also cut Europe's annual greenhouse gas emissions by nearly 5 million metric tons of carbon dioxide equivalent.

Turn down thermostats: Reducing thermostats by one degree Celsius would curb gas demand by about 10 billion cubic metres per year and cut EU gas bills by about 10 per cent.

Install heat pumps which use electricity to warm homes in winter and cool them in summer.

Boost building efficiency with better insulation and smart thermostats.

Curb industrial demand by urging energy-intensive industries such as ammonia and aluminum producers to assess their winter production plans and consider temporary closures.

In case the above top-down plans seem inadequate, the IEA's March fuel report listed 10 other ideas to keep the world on track for NetZero 2050.



Reduce speed limits on highways by at least 10 km/h. Around 290 thousand barrels of oil per day (kb/d) can be saved in the short term through a speed limit reduction of just 10 km/h on motorways for cars. A further 140 kb/d (predominantly diesel) can be saved if heavy trucks reduce their speed by 10 km/h.

Work from home up to three days a week where possible. Impact: One day of working from home can avoid around 170 kb/d of oil use. Three days of working from home avoids around 500 kb/d in the short term.

Car-free Sundays in cities. Impact: Avoids around 380 kb/d of oil use in the short term if implemented in large cities every Sunday.

Make the use of public transport cheaper and incentivise micro-mobility, walking and cycling.

Alternate private car access to roads in large cities.

Increase car sharing and adopt practices to reduce fuel use.

Promote efficient driving for freight trucks and delivery of goods.

Using high-speed and night trains instead of planes where possible.

Avoid business air travel where alternative options exist.

Reinforce the adoption of electric and more efficient vehicles.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstories/terence-corcoran-more-fossil-fuels-%E2%80%94-plus-net-zero/ar-AAVuzwX?ocid=mailsignout&li=AAggFp5">https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstor ... li=AAggFp5">https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstories/terence-corcoran-more-fossil-fuels-%e2%80%94-plus-net-zero/ar-AAVuzwX?ocid=mailsignout&li=AAggFp5

Thiel

Europe went green. It tossed away energy it had, which was both secure and reliable, and signed on to the fantasy of "let's get to net-zero." How has that worked out for them.
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Anonymous

Quote from: Thiel post_id=445190 time=1648775472 user_id=1688
Europe went green. It tossed away energy it had, which was both secure and reliable, and signed on to the fantasy of "let's get to net-zero." How has that worked out for them.

Trudeau/Singh want to double down on that failed example. Biden does too, but he will be facing a GOP congress in January.

Anonymous

Quote from: seoulbro post_id=445231 time=1648814251 user_id=114
Quote from: Thiel post_id=445190 time=1648775472 user_id=1688
Europe went green. It tossed away energy it had, which was both secure and reliable, and signed on to the fantasy of "let's get to net-zero." How has that worked out for them.

Trudeau/Singh want to double down on that failed example. Biden does too, but he will be facing a GOP congress in January.

Europeans are paying a fortune to heat their homes. It's rising quickly here too.

Anonymous

Since 2000, the world has doubled its coal-fired power capacity to around 2,045 gigawatts (GW) after explosive growth in China and India. A further 200GW is being built and 300GW is planned.

Anonymous

Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=445281 time=1648857569 user_id=2015
Since 2000, the world has doubled its coal-fired power capacity to around 2,045 gigawatts (GW) after explosive growth in China and India. A further 200GW is being built and 300GW is planned.


A couple of big name American morons supported China at the Paris Climate Accord by increasing GHG until 2030 before pretending they will cut back. And now we import batteries and solar panel components from coal powered China to "save the planet " ac_toofunny

Anonymous

From India to Europe, coal and nuclear are making comebacks. But, it was stupid to phase them out in the first place.



Coal Makes A Comeback As Energy Crunch Puts The Kibosh On Climate Agenda

https://climatechangedispatch.com/coal-makes-comeback-energy-crunch-puts-kibosh-climate-agenda/?fbclid=IwAR1Ckg3nG-N380MeaTttx7nM-oz8JvMQJt9ZDelKrQfjiUZTZIdgfpHuUHg">https://climatechangedispatch.com/coal- ... IdgfpHuUHg">https://climatechangedispatch.com/coal-makes-comeback-energy-crunch-puts-kibosh-climate-agenda/?fbclid=IwAR1Ckg3nG-N380MeaTttx7nM-oz8JvMQJt9ZDelKrQfjiUZTZIdgfpHuUHg



From the U.S. and Europe to India and China, the appetite for more coal has been inflamed by a scramble for alternative energy sources to end reliance on oil and natural gas from Russia.



Many countries now see coal as the most practical and speedy solution.



"We will need it until we find alternative sources. Until that time, even the greenest government will not phase out coal," Václav Bartuška, the Czech Republic's energy security commissioner, told news outlet Seznam Zprávy.

Anonymous

Quote from: Herman post_id=445282 time=1648857732 user_id=1689
Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=445281 time=1648857569 user_id=2015
Since 2000, the world has doubled its coal-fired power capacity to around 2,045 gigawatts (GW) after explosive growth in China and India. A further 200GW is being built and 300GW is planned.


A couple of big name American morons supported China at the Paris Climate Accord by increasing GHG until 2030 before pretending they will cut back. And now we import batteries and solar panel components from coal powered China to "save the planet " ac_toofunny

China and Russia are supposedly funding climate change hysteria in the West.