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Islamophobia is Very Much Alive in Canada

Started by @realAzhyaAryola, June 08, 2021, 08:11:51 PM

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Jagmeet Singh knows he's not telling the truth.

Anonymous

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The leader of the federal NDP couldn't be more wrong about this country..



A mentally ill young man who attacked randome people is not representative of Canadians, and Jagmeet Singh knows that.



Rupa Subramanya: No, Jagmeet, Canada is not a racist country. It's one of the most tolerant places on earth



Singh does the cause of fighting racism no favours by taking an extreme and exaggerated position that I, as an immigrant and person of colour, cannot agree with



As we mourn the family of four Muslim-Canadians who were killed in London, Ont., on June 6, leaving behind an orphaned child, and as it appears that the motive of the alleged killer was hatred toward Muslims, questions are being asked about the extent of racism in this country. NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh went so far as to claim that "Canada is a place of racism" and that "Muslims are not safe in this country." But is Canada really as racist as Singh claims?



There is certainly no question that hate crimes against many minority groups — including Jewish, Muslim and Asian Canadians — have been on the rise recently. Statistics Canada found that police-reported hate crimes increased in 2019 from the previous year, and reports of anti-Asian hate crimes have surged throughout the pandemic.



Any evidence that racism is on the rise is deplorable and every racist incident must be condemned in the strongest possible terms. However, Singh does the cause of fighting racism no favours by taking an extreme and exaggerated position that I, as an immigrant and person of colour, cannot agree with. Are there racists in Canada? Sure. Is Canada a racist country? Absolutely not.



By any metric, Canada is one of the most tolerant countries on the planet, and one which I am proud to call home. The 2020 World Values Survey places Canada amongst the most racially tolerant countries in the world, with less than five per cent of those surveyed saying that they would not want to have "people of another race" as their neighbours.



I first experienced racism, not in Canada, but in India and the Middle East, two places where I grew up. I was routinely denigrated by some Indians for having darker skin and by some Arabs for being Indian, dark skinned and not a Muslim. These prejudices can be vicious. The truth is that many people of colour who immigrate to Canada are "racialized" long before they arrive here.



That racism can, and does, exist between people of colour is a reality that's entirely missing from the discourse on race in Canada, where it's assumed to be perpetrated solely by old stock white Canadians, with people of colour as their victims. An honest conversation about racism in Canada must acknowledge these complexities, especially given demographic changes driven by large-scale immigration from non-Western countries.



There is ample anecdotal evidence that some immigrants bring the baggage of religion, caste, skin complexion and social class, to say nothing of traditional patriarchal norms that discriminate against women. Such cultural baggage can fuel intolerance operating on many different dimensions simultaneously.



For example, in the United States, there have been allegations of bias against "lower caste" employees in Silicon Valley tech companies that are dominated by "upper caste" Indo-Americans, some of which are being litigated in court. This has led some civil rights groups to petition the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, a federal government agency, to recognize caste-based discrimination as being equivalent to racial discrimination.



We're not even having such conversations in Canada, perhaps because the culture of political correctness and the woke creed make it impossible to find any faults within any community other than that of old stock Canadians. Yet, any serious reckoning with the problem of racism and discrimination more broadly will have to contend with these other dimensions of bias and bigotry that are swept under the rug.



Sweeping assertions from the far left, such as Singh's "Canada is a place of racism," admit no such nuance, when the reality is that Canada has been, and continues to be, a welcoming home for everyone, regardless of race, religion, gender, sexuality or any other identity marker.



Statements such as Singh's fail to set the stage for a serious discussion about issues of race and identity in Canada, by positing an extreme narrative in which Canada is irredeemably racist and beyond redemption. Nothing could be further from the truth.


https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rupa-subramanya-no-jagmeet-canada-is-not-a-racist-country-its-one-of-the-most-tolerant-places-on-earth">https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rupa-s ... s-on-earth">https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rupa-subramanya-no-jagmeet-canada-is-not-a-racist-country-its-one-of-the-most-tolerant-places-on-earth

I used to be an NDP voter. Never again.

Anonymous

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 Islamophobia is a word. Learn a lesson today: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Islamophobia">https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Islamophobia

Another prog buzzword, that's all. Just like cultural appropriation, microaggression, white privilege, heteronormativity, and I identify as.

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Quote from: @realAzhyaAryola post_id=413159 time=1623383658 user_id=73
 Islamophobia is a word. Learn a lesson today: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Islamophobia">https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Islamophobia

Another prog buzzword, that's all. Just like cultural appropriation, microaggression, white privilege, heteronormativity, and I identify as.

No different than any of them
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

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#34
Seems my mouse went a bit mad on click - If management would delete my screwups, it would be appreciated.



I'll try to do better as I really screwed this one up







The Politics of Grief



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How to turn grief into a political rally





Seems the NDP won this political battle hands down by using the in vogue easy/ sleazy method of blaming the country





Where were they all for the 15 hunted down and shot one by one on Danforth ??  .. Nowhere of course. ... a quick token message from 1 (one) from far away Ottawa ... followed by crickets
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: "cc la Mata Hari" post_id=413188 time=1623419825 user_id=88
Seems my mouse went a bit mad on click - If management would delete my screwups, it would be appreciated.



I'll try to do better as I really screwed this one up







The Politics of Grief



https://static.tnc.news/media/2021/06/website-alshow-june1-1-1068x561.jpg">



How to turn grief into a political rally





Seems the NDP won this political battle hands down by using the in vogue easy/ sleazy method of blaming the country





Where were they all for the 15 shot on Danforth ??  .. a quick token message from 1 (one) and then crickets

The only way the NDP can get noticed is with ridiculous statements.

Anonymous

Quote from: "cc la Mata Hari" post_id=413188 time=1623419825 user_id=88
Seems my mouse went a bit mad on click - If management would delete my screwups, it would be appreciated.



I'll try to do better as I really screwed this one up







The Politics of Grief



https://static.tnc.news/media/2021/06/website-alshow-june1-1-1068x561.jpg">



How to turn grief into a political rally





Seems the NDP won this political battle hands down by using the in vogue easy/ sleazy method of blaming the country





Where were they all for the 15 hunted down and shot on Danforth ??  .. a quick token message from 1 (one) from far away Ottawa ... followed by crickets


I think I got them all cc.

 ac_smile

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I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

The more I read about this, the more I believe mental illness was the motive behind that kid mowing down a family in his vehicle.

Anonymous

Quote from: Herman post_id=413235 time=1623449956 user_id=1689
The more I read about this, the more I believe mental illness was the motive behind that kid mowing down a family in his vehicle.

Oh he was defintely a disturbed young man.

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Quote from: Herman post_id=413235 time=1623449956 user_id=1689
The more I read about this, the more I believe mental illness was the motive behind that kid mowing down a family in his vehicle.

Oh he was defintely a disturbed young man.


Apparently so. Still no official motive given, far as I know



Whatever drove him (nutcake or hater or some combo of the 2)  .. or what drives any future killers (and there will of course be some)  .... Canada has always been at & will long remain  the top o the heap and  respected throughout the free world  for tolerance



Attempting to brand it otherwise over   individual incident or even multiple incidents is far out of touch with the reality of this country .. and further, unfair to any country that  lazy tactic is applied to
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

If Veltman was a Muslim with a history of mental illness, politicians and the media would blame the attack on his mental problems. What a double standard.

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#42
And no one  would  "brand" the country as intolerant .
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: "cc la Mata Hari" post_id=413255 time=1623460713 user_id=88
And no one  would not "brand" the country as intolerant .

What a joke eh. I have 2 years and eight months until retirement and I become an ex-Canadian. I can hardly wait.

Anonymous

Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=413257 time=1623461778 user_id=2015
Quote from: "cc la Mata Hari" post_id=413255 time=1623460713 user_id=88
And no one  would not "brand" the country as intolerant .

What a joke eh. I have 2 years and eight months until retirement and I become an ex-Canadian. I can hardly wait.

You have a lot to look forward to..



I can't give up on Canada.