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Started by Anonymous, August 19, 2021, 11:48:54 PM

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Anonymous

The resurgence of thermal coal, which is burned to generate electricity, raises serious questions about the so-called "energy transition."



Soaring demand for the world's least-liked commodity sees thermal coal prices jump 106% this year

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/19/coal-prices-the-worlds-least-liked-commodity-sees-remarkable-rally.html?fbclid=IwAR0UgIA204bWeOwmpTQJMWIWrOQLJXdrEHJOs-LepwvMaiCZ-nc2vmXihGc">https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/19/coal-pr ... nc2vmXihGc">https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/19/coal-prices-the-worlds-least-liked-commodity-sees-remarkable-rally.html?fbclid=IwAR0UgIA204bWeOwmpTQJMWIWrOQLJXdrEHJOs-LepwvMaiCZ-nc2vmXihGc

Anonymous

White libtards have a problem with the masses having prosperity and liberty. Hard to control people that have that.

Anonymous

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Anonymous

Quote from: Herman post_id=418564 time=1629432464 user_id=1689
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Some Canadians think using legislation to block industry in Canada means blocking it globally.

Thiel

Everytime the Liberals or the NDP block a mine or a pipeline, another mine or pipeline will be built in it's place in another country. That's not climate leadership, that's passing the buck.
gay, conservative and proud

Anonymous

Quote from: Thiel post_id=418711 time=1629515463 user_id=1688
Everytime the Liberals or the NDP block a mine or a pipeline, another mine or pipeline will be built in it's place in another country. That's not climate leadership, that's passing the buck.

It's treason. Those projects generate good jobs. Progs only want good unionized jobs in foreign countries and the people of foreign countries here.

Anonymous

China energy crunch triggers shutdowns, pleas for more coal



China has an urgent need for more bituminous coal. It's a shame Trudeau will stop additional exports from Canada. Let other countries have those jobs. What an asshole.



China energy crunch triggers shutdowns, pleas for more coal



SHANGHAI, Sept 28 (Reuters) - China faces mounting pressure to ramp up coal imports and ensure supplies to keep lights on, factories open and water flowing as a severe power crunch roils the northeastern industrial heartland.



With electricity shortages sparked by coal shortages crippling large sections of industry, the governor of Jilin province, one of the hardest hit in the world's no.2 economy, called for a surge in coal imports, while a power company association said supply was being expanded "at any cost".



News organisations and social media carried reports and posts saying the lack of power in the northeast had shut down traffic lights, residential elevators and 3G mobile phone coverage as well as triggering factory shutdowns.



Cities such as Shenyang and Dalian - home to more than 13 million people - have been hit, with disruption at factories owned by suppliers to global companies like Apple (AAPL.O) and Tesla (TSLA.O). Jilin is one of more than 10 provinces forced to ration power as generators feel the heat of soaring coal prices that they can't pass on to consumers. read more



Speaking to power firms on Monday, Han Jun, the governor of Jilin province, home to nearly 25 million people, said "multiple channels" needed to be set up to guarantee coal supplies, and China should source more from Russia, Mongolia and Indonesia.


https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-energy-crunch-triggers-alarm-pleas-more-coal-2021-09-28/">https://www.reuters.com/world/china/chi ... 021-09-28/">https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-energy-crunch-triggers-alarm-pleas-more-coal-2021-09-28/

Anonymous

Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=421600 time=1632854463 user_id=2015
China energy crunch triggers shutdowns, pleas for more coal



China has an urgent need for more bituminous coal. It's a shame Trudeau will stop additional exports from Canada. Let other countries have those jobs. What an asshole.



China energy crunch triggers shutdowns, pleas for more coal



SHANGHAI, Sept 28 (Reuters) - China faces mounting pressure to ramp up coal imports and ensure supplies to keep lights on, factories open and water flowing as a severe power crunch roils the northeastern industrial heartland.



With electricity shortages sparked by coal shortages crippling large sections of industry, the governor of Jilin province, one of the hardest hit in the world's no.2 economy, called for a surge in coal imports, while a power company association said supply was being expanded "at any cost".



News organisations and social media carried reports and posts saying the lack of power in the northeast had shut down traffic lights, residential elevators and 3G mobile phone coverage as well as triggering factory shutdowns.



Cities such as Shenyang and Dalian - home to more than 13 million people - have been hit, with disruption at factories owned by suppliers to global companies like Apple (AAPL.O) and Tesla (TSLA.O). Jilin is one of more than 10 provinces forced to ration power as generators feel the heat of soaring coal prices that they can't pass on to consumers. read more



Speaking to power firms on Monday, Han Jun, the governor of Jilin province, home to nearly 25 million people, said "multiple channels" needed to be set up to guarantee coal supplies, and China should source more from Russia, Mongolia and Indonesia.


https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-energy-crunch-triggers-alarm-pleas-more-coal-2021-09-28/">https://www.reuters.com/world/china/chi ... 021-09-28/">https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-energy-crunch-triggers-alarm-pleas-more-coal-2021-09-28/

China is not giving up coal power this decade, or next or the one after that.

cc

EXACTLY



It has no intention to and never will stop using coal



Further, progs will make excuses and continue their myth
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=421605 time=1632860394 user_id=88
EXACTLY



It has no intention to and never will stop using coal



Further, progs will make excuses and continue their myth

The only transition that is happening is when governments in countries like Canada cancel pipeline, mine, and LNG export projects..



They transition the middle class in affected communities to poverty.

Anonymous

Quote from: Fashionista post_id=421604 time=1632858856 user_id=3254
Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=421600 time=1632854463 user_id=2015
China energy crunch triggers shutdowns, pleas for more coal



China has an urgent need for more bituminous coal. It's a shame Trudeau will stop additional exports from Canada. Let other countries have those jobs. What an asshole.



China energy crunch triggers shutdowns, pleas for more coal



SHANGHAI, Sept 28 (Reuters) - China faces mounting pressure to ramp up coal imports and ensure supplies to keep lights on, factories open and water flowing as a severe power crunch roils the northeastern industrial heartland.



With electricity shortages sparked by coal shortages crippling large sections of industry, the governor of Jilin province, one of the hardest hit in the world's no.2 economy, called for a surge in coal imports, while a power company association said supply was being expanded "at any cost".



News organisations and social media carried reports and posts saying the lack of power in the northeast had shut down traffic lights, residential elevators and 3G mobile phone coverage as well as triggering factory shutdowns.



Cities such as Shenyang and Dalian - home to more than 13 million people - have been hit, with disruption at factories owned by suppliers to global companies like Apple (AAPL.O) and Tesla (TSLA.O). Jilin is one of more than 10 provinces forced to ration power as generators feel the heat of soaring coal prices that they can't pass on to consumers. read more



Speaking to power firms on Monday, Han Jun, the governor of Jilin province, home to nearly 25 million people, said "multiple channels" needed to be set up to guarantee coal supplies, and China should source more from Russia, Mongolia and Indonesia.


https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-energy-crunch-triggers-alarm-pleas-more-coal-2021-09-28/">https://www.reuters.com/world/china/chi ... 021-09-28/">https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-energy-crunch-triggers-alarm-pleas-more-coal-2021-09-28/

China is not giving up coal power this decade, or next or the one after that.

They will do what they need to do to ensure a stable supply of power.

Anonymous

Hydrogen aint the most efficient energy either.



'FIRST IT WAS WIND, THEN IT WAS SOLAR. NOW THEY'VE PUT THE TWO TOGETHER AND IT'S HYDROGEN. THEY'RE TRYING TO SKIN US ALIVE FOREVER.'

https://www.advanceaustralia.org.au/first_it_was_wind_then_it_was_solar?fbclid=IwAR3Ehqeq1RZ_zOnp7NBazuqex7JgAl4omsDGplVYi4xtk8xovHZ0bcAFADM">https://www.advanceaustralia.org.au/fir ... HZ0bcAFADM">https://www.advanceaustralia.org.au/first_it_was_wind_then_it_was_solar?fbclid=IwAR3Ehqeq1RZ_zOnp7NBazuqex7JgAl4omsDGplVYi4xtk8xovHZ0bcAFADM



Let me say a few things for an illiterate politician. You need electricity to make hydrogen and you have losses when you do that. And then with the hydrogen, you need to make electricity, again you have losses. And so, you get about 30% of the energy by that process, the rest gets dispersed. Unless legislation can change the laws of thermodynamics, you are in a loss, loss, loss situation. Loss because we taxpayers get skinned alive, loss because we redistribute energy and loss because we cannot replace that energy.



"This madness was tried a hundred years ago. It didn't work then, and it won't work now. Now, if we look at planet earth from space, we can see a number of really interesting things. Firstly, if you squint and look very hard, you actually can't see that the planet's got a gender. Yet we call the planet a female. Her. The second thing is when you look and you've got spectroscopic eyes, you'll actually see hydrogen is leaking out of the planet. You cannot hold hydrogen, it leaks from the core of the earth through the mantle, through the crust and into space. You cannot hold hydrogen in pipelines or in steel containers."



"So, if you were to make hydrogen, you will lose a huge amount of energy doing it. Then you've got to compress it to only 700 times atmospheric pressure, and that requires a huge amount of energy. Then you've got to liquefy it down to minus 283 degrees Celsius. That requires a huge amount of energy. And then you've got to transport this hydrogen in a truck or a pipeline, and that is a mobile bomb. That hydrogen will leak out through the steel in pipelines or in a truck, just the same as it leaks out from the earth. That hydrogen weakens the steel and so what have you got? You have got a bomb waiting to go off. Hydrogen is well-known to be extremely explosive. And when it explodes, it puts the most powerful greenhouse gas back into the atmosphere. And that gas is water vapour.



"Yes, you can store hydrogen in fuel cells, incredibly expensive and incredibly dangerous. We have extremely good technology now where we can convert fossilised sunlight into energy. And that fossilised sunlight is called coal. We have extremely good technology to convert compressed energy in a big atom, like uranium into steam, which then goes into electricity. That's been around for a long time. We've had hydrogen around for a long time, it still hasn't worked. So, if you have massive subsidies and you have people that live in cities, then hydrogen is used by woke people. I'd much rather be living next door to a nuclear reactor than a hydrogen refuelling station. It's far safer.



 The best technology we've got for generating energy is where we use compressed energy in coal or in a heavy atom like uranium and convert that into steam, which then drives turbines, which then gives us electricity. That for more than a 100 years has been the most efficient form of energy, it still is. If we had no subsidies, we would be still running on coal, uranium and in peak times gas.



"Well, it's even worse than that. We have our wind turbines made in China. We have our solar panels made in China. And by us having wind and solar electricity is sending us broke. So China doesn't even need to invade us, we're doing it to ourselves. Then if we have hydrogen, we do it again to ourselves. And by not using this concentrated energy in black coal and in uranium, we are again sending ourselves broke. We cannot, in a country where wages are high, where our industrial legislation makes it very difficult to do anything, where we have huge amounts of concentrated energy which we export.

Anonymous

Sorry windy solar freaks. Fossils will domintate for at least the next twenty five years. Wind and solar will always be novelties.



https://www.ctvnews.ca/climate-and-environment/opec-oil-will-be-world-s-no-1-energy-source-for-decades-1.5603256?cid=sm%3Atrueanthem%3Actvnews%3Apost&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A%20Trending%20Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3DZ8exYktAcP6c-Cdy9rH-pyyjLhSB_Ux6WtWbcacJbS4RMBBLBXXGHyo">https://www.ctvnews.ca/climate-and-envi ... BBLBXXGHyo">https://www.ctvnews.ca/climate-and-environment/opec-oil-will-be-world-s-no-1-energy-source-for-decades-1.5603256?cid=sm%3Atrueanthem%3Actvnews%3Apost&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A%20Trending%20Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3DZ8exYktAcP6c-Cdy9rH-pyyjLhSB_Ux6WtWbcacJbS4RMBBLBXXGHyo

While acknowledging the inevitable advance of alternative energy sources and technology, OPEC said that oil would be the leading energy source for decades to come as crude prices reached three-year highs Tuesday.



In its annual World Oil Outlook, OPEC acknowledged that more electric vehicles on the road and the push for alternative and renewable energy will indeed usher in an era of declining demand for oil in rich countries.



But the energy needs of expanding economies in other parts of world means that oil will be the world's No. 1 source of energy through 2045, OPEC said Tuesday.



The 340-page report sketches out a future of declining demand for oil in wealthier countries that belong to the 38-member Organization for Economic Development and Cooperation, as efforts to fight climate change take hold in the form of renewables and alternative fuels in cars, airplanes and ships. It forecasts that the world's vehicle fleet would grow by 1.1 billion to 2.6 billion by the end of the report's time frame in 2045 -- and that 500 million of those would be electric powered, or 20% of all vehicles.



But growing populations and expanding middle classes in the rest of the world including China and India will mean increased demand for oil between 2020 and 2045, although much of that increase will take place in the earlier part of that period, the report, produced by OPEC's secretariat in Vienna, said.



Oil will satisfy 28.1% of the world's energy demand by 2045, down from 30% in 2020 -- but ahead of natural gas with 24.4% and coal with 17.4%. Hydroelectric, nuclear and biomass energy sources and other renewables such as wind and solar make up the rest.



A key reason cited for declining energy use in the more-developed world was demography: shrinking and aging populations that usher in lower economic growth.

Anonymous

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