I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos

[Anonymous]

Yes. The numbers line up everywhere ... other provinces, UK, France  .. .and more

As Bricktop pointed, Americans tend to buy the anti science conspiracy horseshit about vaccines being lethal more than people in other countries. Singapore is like 85% fully vaxxed. I haven't heard of many Singaporeans falling for Openvaers and fake bitchute vids. They put their faith in real data. Imagine that.

There is considerable vaccine hesitancy in Taiwan..



China thwarted Taiwan's efforts to secure adequate vaccines, so Taiwan was forced to create it's own vaccine, Medigen which was really rushed..



Ir was given emergency authrization before it came close to finishing it's third stage trials..



Results so far are good and skepticism is falling......it's similar to Novavax

[cc]

China thwarted Taiwan's efforts to secure adequate vaccines, so Taiwan was forced to create it's own vaccine,

I was not aware of that



I'm curious why they could not simply buy from Pfizer, Moderna etc.

[Frood]

Yes. The numbers line up everywhere ... other provinces, UK, France  .. .and more

As Bricktop pointed, Americans tend to buy the anti science conspiracy horseshit about vaccines being lethal more than people in other countries. Singapore is like 85% fully vaxxed. I haven't heard of many Singaporeans falling for Openvaers and fake bitchute vids. They put their faith in real data. Imagine that.

There is considerable vaccine hesitancy in Taiwan..



China thwarted Taiwan's efforts to secure adequate vaccines, so Taiwan was forced to create it's own vaccine, Medigen which was really rushed..



Ir was given emergency authrization before it came close to finishing it's third stage trials..



Results so far are good and skepticism is falling......it's similar to Novavax

[Anonymous]

Watch the full clip for the topic of Taiwan and covid...

I just did and then I did a search. They play that misleading deaths by vaccinated exceed deaths by unvaccinated scam. That is the favouriste misleading card of anti-vaxxers and it's pure bullshit.



Taiwan is far behind Canada in vaccinating people. They are still concentrating on getting the elderly vaccinated. So what that video is really saying is that more 80 year olds in Taiwan who are vaccinated are dying than unvaccinated 20 year olds. Imagine that. Seniors with cancer and heart disease are still dying from cancer and heart disease even after vaccination.



Now the real news on vaccines in Taiwan. In the first four weeks of the rollout to 17 September, nearly 721,000 Taiwanese took the vaccine. 13 people died after taking it (due to other causes), but the death rate is extremely low and comparable to other vaccines. In total, only 7 per cent of the population is fully vaccinated to date (and 49 per cent got at least one dose).

https://international.thenewslens.com/article/156899">https://international.thenewslens.com/article/156899



It's like China is behind the misinformation on Taiwan's homegrown vaccine.

[cc]

We have a very bad situation in our North where many have not vaxxed deliberately



56 have been flown to more southern hospitals as ICUs are full



1 .. yes ONE of the 56 was vacced

[cc]

I just did and then I did a search. They play that misleading deaths by vaccinated exceed deaths by unvaccinated scam. That is the favouriste misleading card of anti-vaxxers and it's pure bullshit.



Taiwan is far behind Canada in vaccinating people. They are still concentrating on getting the elderly vaccinated. So what that video is really saying is that more 80 year olds in Taiwan who are vaccinated are dying than unvaccinated 20 year olds. Imagine that. Seniors with cancer and heart disease are still dying from cancer and heart disease even after vaccination.



Now the real news on vaccines in Taiwan. In the first four weeks of the rollout to 17 September, nearly 721,000 Taiwanese took the vaccine. 13 people died after taking it (due to other causes), but the death rate is extremely low and comparable to other vaccines. In total, only 7 per cent of the population is fully vaccinated to date (and 49 per cent got at least one dose).

https://international.thenewslens.com/article/156899">https://international.thenewslens.com/article/156899



It's like China is behind the misinformation on Taiwan's homegrown vaccine.

From Virginia to Australia ... and From Ireland to Taiwan ..



They keep playing the same scams over & over  .. because .. try  as they will ...  they can't  find legit goods to support their obsession /  cause



Good spot!!!



We wouldn't have to do debunking if these folk just played straight ball in the first place  .. or better yet, if they checked out the validity of the stuff they copy / paste from deliberate misinformation sites



Smarten up guys ... don't just be mere parrots for your vicious hater masters





I don't think we need debunk many more - They have clearly shown us they post crap & deliberate distortions

[Anonymous]

Watch the full clip for the topic of Taiwan and covid...

I just did and then I did a search. They play that misleading deaths by vaccinated exceed deaths by unvaccinated scam. That is the favouriste misleading card of anti-vaxxers and it's pure bullshit.



Taiwan is far behind Canada in vaccinating people. They are still concentrating on getting the elderly vaccinated. So what that video is really saying is that more 80 year olds in Taiwan who are vaccinated are dying than unvaccinated 20 year olds. Imagine that. Seniors with cancer and heart disease are still dying from cancer and heart disease even after vaccination.



Now the real news on vaccines in Taiwan. In the first four weeks of the rollout to 17 September, nearly 721,000 Taiwanese took the vaccine. 13 people died after taking it (due to other causes), but the death rate is extremely low and comparable to other vaccines. In total, only 7 per cent of the population is fully vaccinated to date (and 49 per cent got at least one dose).

https://international.thenewslens.com/article/156899">https://international.thenewslens.com/article/156899



It's like China is behind the misinformation on Taiwan's homegrown vaccine.

There is a lot of opposition to Medigen in Taiwan..



It was given emergency authorization just as third stage testing began..



It's political of course with the KMT using the quick rollout against the DPP president..



And no doubt China is assisting their pan blue allies in Taiwan..



I don't know how Medigen will compare to other vaccines, but we do know it's not deadlier than COVID and it's varients, that's for sure.

[Frood]

Watch the full clip for the topic of Taiwan and covid...

I just did and then I did a search. They play that misleading deaths by vaccinated exceed deaths by unvaccinated scam. That is the favouriste misleading card of anti-vaxxers and it's pure bullshit.



Taiwan is far behind Canada in vaccinating people. They are still concentrating on getting the elderly vaccinated. So what that video is really saying is that more 80 year olds in Taiwan who are vaccinated are dying than unvaccinated 20 year olds. Imagine that. Seniors with cancer and heart disease are still dying from cancer and heart disease even after vaccination.



Now the real news on vaccines in Taiwan. In the first four weeks of the rollout to 17 September, nearly 721,000 Taiwanese took the vaccine. 13 people died after taking it (due to other causes), but the death rate is extremely low and comparable to other vaccines. In total, only 7 per cent of the population is fully vaccinated to date (and 49 per cent got at least one dose).

https://international.thenewslens.com/article/156899">https://international.thenewslens.com/article/156899



It's like China is behind the misinformation on Taiwan's homegrown vaccine.

 :001_rolleyes:

[Frood]

I just did and then I did a search. They play that misleading deaths by vaccinated exceed deaths by unvaccinated scam. That is the favouriste misleading card of anti-vaxxers and it's pure bullshit.



Taiwan is far behind Canada in vaccinating people. They are still concentrating on getting the elderly vaccinated. So what that video is really saying is that more 80 year olds in Taiwan who are vaccinated are dying than unvaccinated 20 year olds. Imagine that. Seniors with cancer and heart disease are still dying from cancer and heart disease even after vaccination.



Now the real news on vaccines in Taiwan. In the first four weeks of the rollout to 17 September, nearly 721,000 Taiwanese took the vaccine. 13 people died after taking it (due to other causes), but the death rate is extremely low and comparable to other vaccines. In total, only 7 per cent of the population is fully vaccinated to date (and 49 per cent got at least one dose).

https://international.thenewslens.com/article/156899">https://international.thenewslens.com/article/156899



It's like China is behind the misinformation on Taiwan's homegrown vaccine.

From Virginia to Australia ... and From Ireland to Taiwan ..



They keep playing the same scams over & over  .. because .. try  as they will ...  they can't  find legit goods to support their obsession /  cause



Good spot!!!



We wouldn't have to do debunking if these folk just played straight ball in the first place  .. or better yet, if they checked out the validity of the stuff they copy / paste from deliberate misinformation sites



Smarten up guys ... don't just be mere parrots for your vicious hater masters





I don't think we need debunk many more - They have clearly shown us they post crap & deliberate distortions

 ac_lmfao





Fuckwit!

[cc]

Brilliant replies loaded with "verifiable emojis" & name-calling    ... Down to that are we?

The stench of desperation is overwhelming





BC's far north, where we have to fly 56 to ICUs that are not full in the South .. is now under different rules than us in the south



1 of the 56 was vaxxed btw .. one 95 yr old .. as others are in 30s and 40s  .. . one 21 died today on the trip



It is a disaster of the unvaxxed in the populated areas of our far North



Also seems our neighbor Alberta is losing people badly right now .. last 2 days have been disastrous .. As numbers have been a bit better lately, most must be from previous high numbers of cases

Recent death per case rate has shot up  .. the highest I have ever seen for Alberta which has lead all provinces in that area from the gitgo

 Maybe Fash can tell us how vax plays into it

[Frood]

Nothing more sad than witnessing you spout propaganda and rubbish like a Pavlovian dog with Stockholm Syndrome...



Or funny...  

[Anonymous]

Brilliant replies loaded with "verifiable emojis" & name-calling    ... Down to that are we?

The stench





BC's far north, where we have to fly 56 to ICUs that are not full in the South .. is now under different rules than us in the south



1 of the 56 was vaxxed btw .. one 95 yr old .. as others are in 30s and 40s  .. . one 21 died today on the trip



It is a disaster of the unvaxxed in the populated areas of our far North



Also seems our neighbor Alberta is losing people badly right now .. last 2 days have been disastrous .. As numbers have been a bit better lately, most must be from previous high numbers of cases

Recent death per case rate has shot up  .. the highest I have ever seen for Alberta which has lead all provinces in that area from the gitgo

 Maybe Fash can tell us how vax plays into it

It's the unvaccinated who are dying of COVID in Alberta.

https://i.cbc.ca/1.6178526.1631831656!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/original_1180/vax-outcomes-deaths-by-age-alberta.jpg">



Deaths

Similar with ICU admissions, there was not a single death among fully vaccinated Albertans under the age of 40 in the past four months.



That compares to seven deaths among unvaccinated people of the same age.



When it comes to the most vulnerable age group — those 80 and over — there were 61 deaths among the unvaccinated, who represent a tiny proportion of the total population in that age range.



That translates to a rate of about 393 per 100,000.



The rate among fully vaccinated Albertans aged 80-plus, meanwhile, was 42 per 100,000.



Bottom line: Vaccinated versus unvaccinated

For Jenne, the infectious-disease expert with the University of Calgary, the implications of the data are clear.



"Vaccines are dramatically reducing loss of life, hospitalization and intensive-care-unit admissions across the province," he said.



This can be seen, he said, by directly comparing the rates of hospitalization, ICU admission and death among the fully vaccinated and the unvaccinated in each age range.



Those numbers are set out in the table below.

https://i.cbc.ca/1.6179016.1631898646!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/original_1180/rate-ratio-full-vax-vs-unvax.jpg">

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-severe-outcomes-covid-vaccination-1.6178449">https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/ ... -1.6178449">https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-severe-outcomes-covid-vaccination-1.6178449

[Anonymous]

I'm a vax skeptic. I question their efficacy. But, the really brainwashed anti-vaxxers like Blazor believe pharma companies with the aid of every government in the world wants to kill their citizens. Of course they can't support a single shred of their madness. It seems more Americans succumb to this lunacy than any other nationality.

[deadskinmask]

I'm a vax skeptic. I question their efficacy. But, the really brainwashed anti-vaxxers like Blazor believe pharma companies with the aid of every government in the world wants to kill their citizens. Of course they can't support a single shred of their madness. It seems more Americans succumb to this lunacy than any other nationality.

i too am a vaxx skeptic.... i know big pharma is corrupt as hell.... while i doubt that they care if it kills ppl or not, i know that they're deliberately causing other problems that will require further treatments.... i believe they're purposely causing A.D.E. as a means to propagate future revenue.... not to mention cancer and clotting issues....

[Anonymous]

I'm a vax skeptic. I question their efficacy. But, the really brainwashed anti-vaxxers like Blazor believe pharma companies with the aid of every government in the world wants to kill their citizens. Of course they can't support a single shred of their madness. It seems more Americans succumb to this lunacy than any other nationality.

i too am a vaxx skeptic.... i know big pharma is corrupt as hell.... while i doubt that they care if it kills ppl or not, i know that they're deliberately causing other problems that will require further treatments.... i believe they're purposely causing A.D.E. as a means to propagate future revenue.... not to mention cancer and clotting issues....

Their best chance of future revenue streams is not shoddy products, but the governments of China with the help of people like Dr Fauci.



ADE is when a disease is made worse or more severe in a person who was already exposed to the virus through a previous infection or vaccination compared to people who were never exposed or vaccinated.



Antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) has not been identified as a concern related to SARS-CoV-2 infection or following COVID-19 vaccination. Here are reasons indicating why ADE will not be a concern:



First, most people have been infected with other coronaviruses in their lifetime, and ADE has not been identified as a result of these infections.

Second, in human studies, people previously infected with coronavirus were infected with different types of coronavirus, and they did not experience enhanced disease.

Third, experimental animals vaccinated against SARS-CoV-2 did not develop enhanced disease when challenged, or infected, with the virus.

Finally, when people with COVID-19 received plasma containing SARS-CoV-2 antibodies, they did not experience enhanced disease.

For these reasons, ADE is not expected to be a concern for SARS-CoV-2 infections or vaccination.

https://immunizebc.ca/ask-us/questions/do-mrna-vaccines-cause-antibody-dependent-enhancement-ade-covid-19-disease">https://immunizebc.ca/ask-us/questions/ ... 19-disease">https://immunizebc.ca/ask-us/questions/do-mrna-vaccines-cause-antibody-dependent-enhancement-ade-covid-19-disease