They said vaccines will "Stop The Spread"

[Bricktop]

What is the vaccination rate there?

[Anonymous]

What is the vaccination rate there?

It's changed since we started vaccinating children between the ages of six and eleven..



I believe it's about seventy seven per cent.

[Bricktop]

OK!



 

[cc]

But where I draw a line is the tyrannical way western governments are trampling over our rights in a free and democratic society without the authority of a plebiscite.

We get that. Once or twice was enough



They should have shut things down a few days ago - With the rise this week, we are screwed royally



Taking "forever to do" plebiscites my ass ... we need faster action  ... control has already been lost on this new thingy by lack of gutsy action as proven by the number rise in the last 5 days. As of this moment, we are really in deep cucka



Today's numbers here, the US, Germany, UK etc. etc. etc. are astronomical ffs  ... and of course still climbing rapidly

What about hospitaizations and ICU?

Not seen it here yet, but this all took off in last few days



We'll soon see what happens re: hospitals



I hope for the best, but realistically fear the worse - We'll keep fingers crossed and see. If it is mild as billed, that's good. but ...



Certainly the elderly and infirm will pay the price .. as to other, we'll soon see

[Anonymous]

But where I draw a line is the tyrannical way western governments are trampling over our rights in a free and democratic society without the authority of a plebiscite.

We get that. Once or twice was enough



They should have shut things down a few days ago - With the rise this week, we are screwed royally



Taking "forever to do" plebiscites my ass ... we need faster action  ... control has already been lost on this new thingy by lack of gutsy action as proven by the number rise in the last 5 days. As of this moment, we are really in deep cucka



Today's numbers here, the US, Germany, UK etc. etc. etc. are astronomical ffs  ... and of course still climbing rapidly

What about hospitaizations and ICU?

Not seen it here yet, but this all took off in last few days



We'll soon see what happens re: hospitals



I hope for the best, but realistically fear the worse - We'll keep fingers crossed and see

I'm really worried how bad the next wave that we're now starting will get..



I hope we don't have trouble returning to Canada or have to quarantine at a hotel when we do..



It was just too late to cancel our trip.

[cc]

But where I draw a line is the tyrannical way western governments are trampling over our rights in a free and democratic society without the authority of a plebiscite.

We get that. Once or twice was enough



They should have shut things down a few days ago - With the rise this week, we are screwed royally



Taking "forever to do" plebiscites my ass ... we need faster action  ... control has already been lost on this new thingy by lack of gutsy action as proven by the number rise in the last 5 days. As of this moment, we are really in deep cucka



Today's numbers here, the US, Germany, UK etc. etc. etc. are astronomical ffs  ... and of course still climbing rapidly

What about hospitaizations and ICU?

Not seen it here yet, but this all took off in last few days



We'll soon see what happens re: hospitals



I hope for the best, but realistically fear the worse - We'll keep fingers crossed and see

I'm really worried how bad the next wave that we're now starting will get..



I hope we don't have trouble returning to Canada or have to quarantine at a hotel when we do..



It was just too late to cancel our trip.

Understood. We all hope the best for you and your family - and for all

[Anonymous]

We get that. Once or twice was enough



They should have shut things down a few days ago - With the rise this week, we are screwed royally



Taking "forever to do" plebiscites my ass ... we need faster action  ... control has already been lost on this new thingy by lack of gutsy action as proven by the number rise in the last 5 days. As of this moment, we are really in deep cucka



Today's numbers here, the US, Germany, UK etc. etc. etc. are astronomical ffs  ... and of course still climbing rapidly

What about hospitaizations and ICU?

Not seen it here yet, but this all took off in last few days



We'll soon see what happens re: hospitals



I hope for the best, but realistically fear the worse - We'll keep fingers crossed and see

I'm really worried how bad the next wave that we're now starting will get..



I hope we don't have trouble returning to Canada or have to quarantine at a hotel when we do..



It was just too late to cancel our trip.

Understood. We all hope the best for you and for all

Thank you cc.

 ac_smile

[Bricktop]

Understood. We all hope the best for you and your family - and for all

What she said.



Stay safe.



 acc_hugz

[Anonymous]

But where I draw a line is the tyrannical way western governments are trampling over our rights in a free and democratic society without the authority of a plebiscite.

We get that. Once or twice was enough



They should have shut things down a few days ago - With the rise this week, we are screwed royally



Taking "forever to do" plebiscites my ass ... we need faster action  ... control has already been lost on this new thingy by lack of gutsy action as proven by the number rise in the last 5 days. As of this moment, we are really in deep cucka



Today's numbers here, the US, Germany, UK etc. etc. etc. are astronomical ffs  ... and of course still climbing rapidly

What about hospitaizations and ICU?

Not seen it here yet, but this all took off in last few days



We'll soon see what happens re: hospitals



I hope for the best, but realistically fear the worse - We'll keep fingers crossed and see

I'm really worried how bad the next wave that we're now starting will get..



I hope we don't have trouble returning to Canada or have to quarantine at a hotel when we do..



It was just too late to cancel our trip.

You take care kid.

[Frood]

But we DO know that vaccinated people are transmitting the virus.



That is the key point of this thread. Not the efficacy of the vaccine. I do not dispute it is highly beneficial.

No one with any authority or brains said they stop anything ... Certainly no one here has.  ... decrease, yes  .. "stop" no"



Yet you go on thread after thread .. Like when is enough with this distortion obsession ?

Learn to read. Check the OP. What does it say?



Distortion? Do you support mandatory vaccines and domestic health passports? Why not make a case for these issues, rather than derail with an imagined "anti-vax" straw man argument.



You're getting a tad beligerent. I'm opening up a discussion on government overreach based on mistruths.



Address the damn topic or go fight with Freud about the vaccine. ac_beating

I'm not interested in any serious discussion with that bullshit merchant, thnxs...

[cc]

What is the vaccination rate there?

It's changed since we started vaccinating children between the ages of six and eleven..



I believe it's about seventy seven per cent.

I think you are approaching 90 in over 12 . We are around 92  in over 12 & 86.8% in over 5 yrs of age



Rarely do I see all ages% .. it would be helpful





OP > "They said vaccines will "Stop The Spread" - Who is "they"? and why does anyone care what some crackpot says?



a. I'll say the no-brainer fact of it all  one last time  - Vaccines do not "STOP" the spread completely and were never said to by anyone of any credence

They do slow it .. We can argue over how much, but to date no one knows for certain .. and maybe the best we will ever get is educated guesses



b. With the new one in town, no one yet has any idea how well it will do .. we don't even know yet if it is mild as some have claimed or it it is heavy duty .. let alone if the vaccines "reduce" the spread at all or a lot



After multiple of the same old in thread after thread & now yet again in a separate thread, it's getting tiresome



 We have a new & very much unknown  game in town to contend with now



As to "belligerent", that's that's the first time I have been so accused - Must be the "raging female" thing out of control

[Bricktop]

OP > "They said vaccines will "Stop The Spread" - Who is "they"? and why does anyone care what some crackpot says?



a. I'll say the no-brainer fact of it all  one last time  - Vaccines do not "STOP" the spread completely and were never said to by anyone of any credence

They do slow it .. We can argue over how much, but to date no one knows for certain .. and maybe the best we will ever get is educated guesses

Evidence, please.



It sure as shit hasn't slowed it in NSW where vaccinated people are DOUBLING the number of infected.



Now, how does that validate compulsory vaccinations and passports?



You've still made NO argument in support, and I've made it clear this is my only issue with this whole debacle.

[Anonymous]

OP > "They said vaccines will "Stop The Spread" - Who is "they"? and why does anyone care what some crackpot says?



a. I'll say the no-brainer fact of it all  one last time  - Vaccines do not "STOP" the spread completely and were never said to by anyone of any credence

They do slow it .. We can argue over how much, but to date no one knows for certain .. and maybe the best we will ever get is educated guesses

Evidence, please.



It sure as shit hasn't slowed it in NSW where vaccinated people are DOUBLING the number of infected.



Now, how does that validate compulsory vaccinations and passports?



You've still made NO argument in support, and I've made it clear this is my only issue with this whole debacle.

cc has posted more evidence than anybody..



Which evidence would you like to see again?

[Frood]

ac_lmfao

[Bricktop]

OP > "They said vaccines will "Stop The Spread" - Who is "they"? and why does anyone care what some crackpot says?



a. I'll say the no-brainer fact of it all  one last time  - Vaccines do not "STOP" the spread completely and were never said to by anyone of any credence

They do slow it .. We can argue over how much, but to date no one knows for certain .. and maybe the best we will ever get is educated guesses

Evidence, please.



It sure as shit hasn't slowed it in NSW where vaccinated people are DOUBLING the number of infected.



Now, how does that validate compulsory vaccinations and passports?



You've still made NO argument in support, and I've made it clear this is my only issue with this whole debacle.

cc has posted more evidence than anybody..



Which evidence would you like to see again?

Again?



I want to see evidence that mandatory vaccination and mandatory domestic covid passports will offer sufficient protection that would justify people having their human rights and freedoms removed.



And as to her "evidence", I have commented on it many times...it does not address the issue that I am discussing, nor, in fact, does it offer reliable data for any conclusion to be drawn.



Britain had an 80% vaccine uptake. 88,000 new cases in a single day YESTERDAY. The most on record.



Explain THAT data. Then explain how compulsory vaccinations would stop the spread.