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COVID-19 hospital stays cost 3 times more than a stay for heart attack

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This report comes from the Canadian Institute of Health Information..



In Alberta, the unvaccinated are thirty times more likely to end up in ICU..



This explains the extraordinary pressure that is being put on the unvaccinated to get vaccinated.





COVID-19 hospital stays cost 3 times more than a stay for heart attack



The estimated average cost of a hospital stay for COVID-19 is more than $23,000. This includes both intensive care unit (ICU) and non-ICU admissions. New data from the Canadian Institute for Health Information (CIHI) shows that a COVID-19 hospital stay costs about 3 times more than for heart attack ($7,000) or pneumonia ($8,000), 4 times more than the cost of a stay for influenza (approximately $5,000) and almost as much as a kidney transplant ($27,000).



People who have COVID-19 remain in the hospital about twice as long as the average pneumonia patient (15 days and 7 days, respectively), and a larger proportion of them are admitted to the ICU and ventilated.



Estimated costs for COVID-19 hospital stays

The estimated total cost of COVID-19 hospital stays in Canada (excluding Quebec) was almost $1 billion in 2020–2021, tripling between November 2020 and March 2021.



A COVID-19–related hospitalization with ICU admission is estimated to cost over $50,000 — more than 3 times the cost of a stay without ICU admission ($15,000). By comparison, the average cost of an ICU admission for pneumonia is $22,000 and for heart attack is $8,400.


https://www.cihi.ca/en/covid-19-hospital-stays-cost-3-times-more-than-a-stay-for-heart-attack#:~:text=A%20COVID%2D19%E2%80%93related%20hospitalization,for%20heart%20attack%20is%20%248%2C400">https://www.cihi.ca/en/covid-19-hospita ... %248%2C400">https://www.cihi.ca/en/covid-19-hospital-stays-cost-3-times-more-than-a-stay-for-heart-attack#:~:text=A%20COVID%2D19%E2%80%93related%20hospitalization,for%20heart%20attack%20is%20%248%2C400.

Anonymous

Quote from: Fashionista post_id=434637 time=1642121796 user_id=3254
This report comes from the Canadian Institute of Health Information..



In Alberta, the unvaccinated are thirty times more likely to end up in ICU..



This explains the extraordinary pressure that is being put on the unvaccinated to get vaccinated.





COVID-19 hospital stays cost 3 times more than a stay for heart attack



The estimated average cost of a hospital stay for COVID-19 is more than $23,000. This includes both intensive care unit (ICU) and non-ICU admissions. New data from the Canadian Institute for Health Information (CIHI) shows that a COVID-19 hospital stay costs about 3 times more than for heart attack ($7,000) or pneumonia ($8,000), 4 times more than the cost of a stay for influenza (approximately $5,000) and almost as much as a kidney transplant ($27,000).



People who have COVID-19 remain in the hospital about twice as long as the average pneumonia patient (15 days and 7 days, respectively), and a larger proportion of them are admitted to the ICU and ventilated.



Estimated costs for COVID-19 hospital stays

The estimated total cost of COVID-19 hospital stays in Canada (excluding Quebec) was almost $1 billion in 2020–2021, tripling between November 2020 and March 2021.



A COVID-19–related hospitalization with ICU admission is estimated to cost over $50,000 — more than 3 times the cost of a stay without ICU admission ($15,000). By comparison, the average cost of an ICU admission for pneumonia is $22,000 and for heart attack is $8,400.


https://www.cihi.ca/en/covid-19-hospital-stays-cost-3-times-more-than-a-stay-for-heart-attack#:~:text=A%20COVID%2D19%E2%80%93related%20hospitalization,for%20heart%20attack%20is%20%248%2C400">https://www.cihi.ca/en/covid-19-hospita ... %248%2C400">https://www.cihi.ca/en/covid-19-hospital-stays-cost-3-times-more-than-a-stay-for-heart-attack#:~:text=A%20COVID%2D19%E2%80%93related%20hospitalization,for%20heart%20attack%20is%20%248%2C400.

The reason is costs more is probably because of all the isolation and extra room COVID patients take up.

Bricktop


Anonymous

Quote from: Bricktop post_id=434640 time=1642122529 user_id=1560
What are we supposed to do with this information?

Keep people out of hospital, especially ICU.

Bricktop

OK. So, keep ALL people out, or just those not vaccinated.



You know, like that McDonalds care facility that booted the family of a 4 year old boy with Leukemia.

Anonymous

Quote from: Fashionista post_id=434649 time=1642123223 user_id=3254
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=434640 time=1642122529 user_id=1560
What are we supposed to do with this information?

Keep people out of hospital, especially ICU.

I say too many people are running to the frickin hospital with mild to moderate COVID when they should be recovering at home.

cc

Quote from: Bricktop post_id=434652 time=1642123358 user_id=1560
OK. So, keep ALL people out, or just those not vaccinated.



You know, like that McDonalds care facility that booted the family of a 4 year old boy with Leukemia.

I don't think that was at all what she was suggesting



You will have to dig a lot harder to make our Fash out to be a hard hearted monster  :wink:
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Bricktop

I have no desire to "dig", as you put it. I do not need reminding that Fash is an angel at heart.



My point is that health systems can shriek all they want about "costs", but there is little point. If you examine the ailments of ALL people in ICU, you will discover that many of them have issues that could be considered avoidable.



Every time there is a crisis, our governments look for the cheap option; make the people change behaviour and control their conduct rather than address the real issue.



Take road safety for example. Our government loves to bang on about deaths and serious injury on roads, and how it's necessary to install monitoring cameras for "our own good". But do governments attempt to make roads safer?



Nope. The same roads have been used for decades without any re-design or re-build. Traffic has increased tenfold, but the roads remain unchanged. If people die in an accident, it's someone's fault but not government apathy.



The same principle applies here. Government constraints are not about saving lives, stopping the spread or protecting our health.



It has only ONE aim. To protect underfunded and neglected health services from being inundated. It is entirely possible to convert vacant properties into Covid treatment centres where specialised health professionals can nurse them back to health. But that would cost money, and funds would have to be diverted from arts grants, social welfare programs, politicians pensions and useless school programs.



So, as always, the government takes the easy and cheap way out...and blames those who don't follow their edicts for their ineptitude and neglect.

Anonymous

Quote from: Bricktop post_id=434677 time=1642125723 user_id=1560


My point is that health systems can shriek all they want about "costs", but there is little point. If you examine the ailments of ALL people in ICU, you will discover that many of them have issues that could be considered avoidable.



Every time there is a crisis, our governments look for the cheap option; make the people change behaviour and control their conduct rather than address the real issue.

I get what you are laying down here. I have unavoidable habits myself. But, I stand by what I said. I believe the reason COVID stays are so frickin pricey is because of the space they take up.

Bricktop

Then create more space!!! The Chinese set up a Covid treatment centre in Wuhan which treated around 1000 people in TEN DAYS.



It would take THAT long in western countries to propose a plan as to how a committee can be formed to discuss the viability of publishing a white paper for public perusal.

cc

Well there are several ways to greatly reduce covid hospital costs



Few of which are socially acceptable or legal  at this time ...





'sides, our 12 gauge pump gets a bit too warm after extended rapid fire







 ac_smile
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: Bricktop post_id=434689 time=1642127597 user_id=1560
Then create more space!!! The Chinese set up a Covid treatment centre in Wuhan which treated around 1000 people in TEN DAYS.



It would take THAT long in western countries to propose a plan as to how a committee can be formed to discuss the viability of publishing a white paper for public perusal.

lol, expensive slow moving bureaucracy.....we know how that works in Canada.

Trump’s Niece

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Anonymous

Quote from: "Erica Mena" post_id=434709 time=1642129705 user_id=2845
This COVID isolation is costing me money. Lots of it

Ya, I read that kid. You can return to work and a normal life, but they will not let ya. I would be getting frustrated too if I wasn't retired.

Blazor

Quote from: Herman post_id=434657 time=1642123614 user_id=1689
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=434649 time=1642123223 user_id=3254
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=434640 time=1642122529 user_id=1560
What are we supposed to do with this information?

Keep people out of hospital, especially ICU.

I say too many people are running to the frickin hospital with mild to moderate COVID when they should be recovering at home.


Ding ding ding, we have a winner!!!



Its fear. The media has whooped everyone up into fear. I blame the media.... as I have been this whole time.



CNN was even busted doing so, in an undercover video, and said the next thing fear based thing they were gonna push was global warming..... which is exactly what they doing now.



Merely 2 years ago, if you had a cold/flu, as long as it wasnt severe, you stayed home, ate some soup, got rest, and did fine. Usually saying "I done caught something". Well, they slap a label on it, Corona, and now suddenly its something to be feared.



People are swarming stores to get these rapid in home test kits. They cant keep them in stock, have limits on them. Thats fear induced.



My son, who has medical insurance (like Canadians swarming the hospitals), got sick this week and went to the doc. I tried telling him, get some TheraFlu, drink fluids, eat soup, and get rest. Nope, he went cause his trip to Tennessee is this weekend and he wanted some kind of medicine to help speed up the recovery, he was already recovering. They tested him, and the test said positive. They told him "nothing we can do or give you, you'll get better on your own" and sent him on his way.



No one has to worry about me doing that, I'll just stay home, and do what I've always done to recover if I get sick.



What I wanna know, is if you can walk in a store, and get a shot of something experimental, without a Dr.s prescription, then why cant folks walk into a store and get Ivermectin, that has proven to work to treat it.
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