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BAD NEWS: Liberals, NDP "tentative" agreement to keep Trudeau government in power until 2025

Started by cc, March 21, 2022, 10:46:14 PM

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Since being elected, Singh has accomplished next to nothing and consistently votes in support of any Liberal measure of substance



Though not a question one normally asks about the leader of an opposition party, it's hard not to wonder. Since being elected, Singh has accomplished next to nothing and consistently votes in support of any Liberal measure of substance. His tenure as leader has been characterized by pure showmanship and image-polishing.



While some may note a striking similarity to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's brand of politics, Singh lacks a key element that Trudeau and his team have in abundance: political savvy and ruthlessness.



As a result, Singh's leadership has been reduced to a parade of meaningless words interspersed with the odd good soundbite or idea, which is inevitably taken by the Liberals and presented to Canadians as their own.



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 Singh's continued popularity and lack of scrutiny remain mystifying. Chosen as leader at a time when the NDP had over 40 seats, Singh has managed to win no more than 25 in either the 2019 or 2021 elections. A drop of over 40 per cent in a party's seat count should result in any leader being shown the door, but Singh has skated freely on.



The poor electoral results should be seen as a logical result of the NDP message under Singh, which has taken one of two forms: first, a poorly branded, bargain discount photocopy of ideas the Liberals are already implementing; and, second, fringe lunacy that any sane Canadian immediately recognizes as unrealistic electioneering and pandering to an extremist base.

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Anyone could be forgiven for thinking this is all a Liberal inside job. It all lines up perfectly. No challenge to the Liberal message. No real effort at targeting close Liberal-NDP ridings in any election. And no decent fundraising to hold a legitimate election threat over Trudeau's head if the NDP's concerns are not addressed.



Under Singh's leadership, the NDP has been listless and incoherent. Its message of social justice has been swallowed whole by the Liberals.

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Even last week's deal seemed like an agreement between the Liberals and a party that didn't have the foggiest idea of what it wanted, but was happy someone had acknowledge its presence in the room.

Jagmeet Singh and Justin Trudeau are horrible choices.

For working families, yes.

Thiel

What is the point of the NDP anymore. Just cross the floor and get it over with.
gay, conservative and proud

cc

Quote from: Thiel post_id=445024 time=1648604754 user_id=1688
What is the point of the NDP anymore. Just cross the floor and get it over with.

Very good point. NDP'ers are nothing more than Trudy bootlickers & slaves now
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Thiel

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Quote from: Thiel post_id=445024 time=1648604754 user_id=1688
What is the point of the NDP anymore. Just cross the floor and get it over with.

Very good point. NDP'ers are nothing more than Trudy bootlickers & slaves now

They are an embarrassment to themselves and they will be crushed in the next election.
gay, conservative and proud

cc

Quote they will be crushed in the next election

Agreed. Why would anyone vote for them now?



Sadly, that only makes for more of Trudy underlings / gang of thugs
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Thiel

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Quote they will be crushed in the next election

Agreed. Why would anyone vote for them now?



Sadly, that only makes for more of Trudy's gang of thugs

Singh is not even close to being an opposition leader.
gay, conservative and proud

Anonymous

Quote from: Thiel post_id=445024 time=1648604754 user_id=1688
What is the point of the NDP anymore. Just cross the floor and get it over with.

What's the difference between Trudeau Liberals and the NDP. They both have a hard-on for working folks.

Anonymous

Quote from: Thiel post_id=445024 time=1648604754 user_id=1688
What is the point of the NDP anymore. Just cross the floor and get it over with.

Wouldn't the new Liberal/NDP Party become a permanent governing party?

Anonymous

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What is the point of the NDP anymore. Just cross the floor and get it over with.

Wouldn't the new Liberal/NDP Party become a permanent governing party?

In the past, no. Blue Liberals would have joined the old Progressive Conservatives. Trudeau's Liberals have purged the Dan McTeagues, John Nunziatas and Tom Wappels.



Some would leave. Those would be the ones who've held their noses under Trudeau and remained loyal to the party. But, it would be pretty hard to unseat an NDP-Liberal merger.

Anonymous

I use to vote NDP. They started as a party that had the backs of workers and now they are a party of urban elitists who put knives in the backs of workers.

Anonymous

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Anonymous

What priorities you can expect in the next federal budget.



By Jake Fuss, a senior economist at the Fraser Institute.



Three things Canadians should look for in federal budget



The Trudeau government will table its next federal budget on April 7. While details of the government's plans are limited, the new Liberal/NDP agreement raises the spectre of higher government spending and new or expanded government programs.



Here are three key items Canadians should look for in the upcoming budget.



First, Ottawa will likely have significantly more revenue than initially forecasted last spring. All provinces who recently updated their finances reported marked improvements in revenues and the situation for federal finances is unlikely to be any different. Revenues collected via federal taxes on personal income, businesses, and goods and services are all anticipated to be higher than original expectations.



With higher revenues, questions loom on the other side of the fiscal ledger.



Can the Trudeau government demonstrate spending restraint to improve the fiscal situation or will it revert to old tendencies and spend the majority of the unplanned influx of revenue?



This government has a poor record with unexpected revenues and has frequently opted to increase spending rather than move towards budget balance. Before COVID, federal per-person program spending had already reached the highest point in Canada's history at $9,500 (adjusted for inflation) in 2019. If the Trudeau government chooses not to increase spending in this spring's budget, it could reduce the deficit significantly now and in the coming years.



Second, and relatedly, is there a realistic path to a balanced budget? Prime Minister Trudeau committed to "absolutely" return to budget balance post-COVID during his end-of-year comments in December 2020. His statement, however, rings hollow without a formal plan.



The prime minister already abandoned his previous campaign commitment of three years of small deficits and a balanced budget in 2019. After winning the 2015 election, the Trudeau government not only increased the size of deficits beyond its original promise, but also ran a deficit of $39.4 billion in 2019/20.



Actions speak louder than words and the prime minister has yet to present a credible plan to improve federal finances. The government must include clear and decisive measures in the upcoming budget, indicating how and when it plans to return to budget balance.



Lastly, Canadians should look for the government's plan to improve economic growth. What specific policies will Ottawa pursue and how does this differ from previous strategies? In the past, Trudeau government policies have included a combination of higher taxes, marked increases in spending financed by borrowing, and greater government intervention in the economy.



Put differently, the Trudeau government's vision for a stronger economy has rested on a larger, more significant role for politicians and bureaucrats picking winners and losers, and a reduced role for entrepreneurs, business owners and investors. But this plan resulted in worse economic performance than the prime ministerial tenures of predecessors such as Chretien, Martin and Harper.



As the Canadian economy recovers, Ottawa can encourage the creation of new products, services and businesses to drive economic growth by making Canada's tax rates more competitive with other countries by reducing taxes on personal income, businesses and capital gains. Cutting regulatory red tape and removing internal trade barriers would also improve economic performance.



In this year's federal budget, Canadians should pay close attention to the government's plans for spending restraint, a realistic path to balanced budgets and economic growth strategies. The policy choices made today will ultimately determine the direction of the country for many years to come.



Actions speak louder than words and the prime minister has yet to present a credible plan to improve federal finances.

Anonymous

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Anonymous

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Liberal-NDP Logic. More censorship is actually good for free speech.

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Does anyone actually believe this phony reasoning.

cc

^^^
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Does anyone actually believe this phony reasoning.

Yes. Those who "want to" do believe it
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell