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https://globalnews.ca/news/7708960/conservative-party-climate-change/">Conservative party members vote down resolution to officially recognize climate change



Efforts to enshrine the reality of climate change in official Conservative party policy failed this weekend, marking a blow to Conservative Leader Erin O'Toole's efforts to position his party as serious on environmental issues.



A vote on the matter came at the party's official policy convention, which concluded on Saturday.



Though the party's policy declaration already contains a lengthy section on that subject, 54 per cent of delegates voted against expanding it to include the sentence "we recognize that climate change is real. The Conservative Party is willing to act."



During the debate on the resolution Friday, speakers opposed to the motion had quibbled over the focus on emissions at the expense of other pollutants.



"Conservatives need to lead with clarity, focus and intelligent solutions, not buzzwords," said one delegate from the Toronto-area riding of Scarborough Centre.
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

The resolution is meaningless..



But, it's an easy target for opposition parties.

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I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=419538 time=1630253506 user_id=88
https://globalnews.ca/news/7708960/conservative-party-climate-change/">Conservative party members vote down resolution to officially recognize climate change



Efforts to enshrine the reality of climate change in official Conservative party policy failed this weekend, marking a blow to Conservative Leader Erin O'Toole's efforts to position his party as serious on environmental issues.



A vote on the matter came at the party's official policy convention, which concluded on Saturday.



Though the party's policy declaration already contains a lengthy section on that subject, 54 per cent of delegates voted against expanding it to include the sentence "we recognize that climate change is real. The Conservative Party is willing to act."



During the debate on the resolution Friday, speakers opposed to the motion had quibbled over the focus on emissions at the expense of other pollutants.



"Conservatives need to lead with clarity, focus and intelligent solutions, not buzzwords," said one delegate from the Toronto-area riding of Scarborough Centre.

O'Fool wants the Conservative Party to be as woke as Justine's party.

Anonymous

Without any evidence, Biden is pointing his finger at climate change as the cause of the deadly tornados. Never let a tragedy go to waste eh Joe.

Anonymous

Quote from: seoulbro post_id=430557 time=1639408462 user_id=114
Without any evidence, Biden is pointing his finger at climate change as the cause of the deadly tornados. Never let a tragedy go to waste eh Joe.

We knew he would do that and use it to promote his build back better billionaires plan.

Anonymous

Quote from: seoulbro post_id=430557 time=1639408462 user_id=114
Without any evidence, Biden is pointing his finger at climate change as the cause of the deadly tornados. Never let a tragedy go to waste eh Joe.




Meteorologist responds with data after Joe Biden seemingly blames climate change for deadly tornados

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Meteorologist Joe Bastardi fired back at President Joe Biden for seemingly blaming the devastating tornado outbreak that struck multiple states last week on climate change.



The famed meteorologist accused Biden of weaponizing tornados and shared data showing that severe weather this year has not been as severe compared to previous years.



"Clueless Joe Biden In action again with his weaponization of Tornados. 1) Violent tornadoes not increasing. 2) this year tornados, hail and wind all together near-record low," Bastardi said. "Mindless media should do their dang job and call him on it, I called Trump out on Dorian jibberish."



The data Bastardi included, coming from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, directly contradicts claims from Biden and Criswell that severe weather is more intense because of climate change.



The first graph shows that, as carbon emissions increased between 1954 and 2014, the number of annual tornados did not increase; in fact, it went down.

The second graphs shows that the number of recorded tornados through Dec. 11, 2021, is, in fact, close to a record low.

The third graph shows that the number of local storm reports of hail — 3,714 through Dec. 11 — is significantly under the average of 7,979 through the same time period.

The fourth graph shows that the number of local storm reports of damaging winds — 12,780 through Dec. 11 — is also under the average of 13,996 through the same time period.

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Climate change hawks love to exploit isolated weather events to promote a certain narrative about the climate. However, climate, by its very definition, describes observable patterns of weather over long periods of time — not isolated events.



Thus, if climate change were truly driving more intense weather, such a phenomenon would be observable over a substantial period of time. But as Colorado University professor Roger Pielke Jr. pointed out on Sunday, the U.S. government's own data shows that tornados, for example, are becoming less common in the U.S.



"According to data from the U.S. National Weather Service from 2000 to 2020 only four of the strongest category of tornadoes were observed (which are labelled as F/EF5 tornadoes) In comparison, from 1954 to 1974 36 (!) such powerful tornadoes were observed," Pielke explained. "Our research on tornado damage in the United States over many decades shows a decline that is suggestive of an actual decline in tornado incidence."



Pielke also highlighted an important point to consider when politicians and those with an agenda begin blaming climate change for weather disasters.



"If it is so well known that disasters are the result of a complex interplay of social and climate factors, why then is climate typically the main focus of attention after every extreme event?" Pielke wrote.



His point: If a tree falls in a forest, but no one hears or sees it, did it make a sound? In a similar way, weather disasters — like the one that happened last week — are only disasters because they impact a significant number of people. If a severe tornado with 200mph winds touches down in rural Nebraska, but causes no damage, no one blames climate change for such an extreme event.



As geographer Gilbert White, known for his work in helping society mitigate the impact of natural disasters, wrote: "Floods are 'acts of God' but flood losses are largely acts of man."

Anonymous

Bjorn Lomborg is a global preeminent voice on climate change. The Western top down obsession with climate change and the costly, ineffective "solutions" they put so much public money into are taking away from much more immediate and serious problems the world faces.



The global elite's obsession with climate change takes away from many other major problems facing the planet

The global elite's obsession with climate change takes away from many other major problems facing the planet



The biggest task facing humanity today remains lifting most of the world out of abject poverty. This can only happen by providing poor countries with comprehensive, reliable energy sources. That's how the rich world became prosperous, and it is how China lifted almost a billion out of poverty. Yet, while the world's rich countries are overwhelmingly powered by fossil fuels, the elite has worked hard to make these energy sources both more expensive and less available for the world's poorest.



Right now, we're still recovering from the worst pandemic in a century. Inflation, supply shortages, and possibly even recession loom over the global economy. Autocracies are reasserting themselves, while food crises are already being experienced by the most vulnerable. Tuberculosis, malaria and malnutrition — each effectively handled in the rich world — still claim millions of lives each year across poor countries.



Yet major donors and development organizations have become increasingly focused on climate solutions instead. One month after Ukraine was invaded, the head of the United Nations — an organization focused on ensuring world peace — was instead warning about "climate catastrophe," and the "mutually assured destruction" that fossil fuel "addiction" could cause.



It would be an exaggeration to say that while real threats were mounting, the rich world was tinkering with solar panels and banning plastic straws. But only a small exaggeration.



So how have the elites managed to get things so wrong? One reason is that for years, the media has portrayed climate change impacts as horrendous. Today, almost every natural disaster routinely gets blamed on the climate crisis, with every new hurricane held up as another exhibit of man's folly. Yet, hurricanes killed many more people in the past. A major scientific paper from last month documents "decreasing trends" in global hurricane frequency and strength. The data shows that last year the world experienced fewer hurricanes than ever before in the satellite era, and their combined strength was one of the lowest.



The real impact from climate change is much more nuanced. The UN climate panel of scientists finds that a warmer world will mean fewer (good) but stronger (worse) hurricanes. In total, this will increase damages (bad), but because the world will also get richer and more resilient, relative damages will keep declining, just slightly more slowly. This is a problem that we mustn't ignore. But it is far from a catastrophe. Global climate damage in per cent of GDP keeps declining and climate disaster deaths have dropped 99 per cent in a century.



For the best sense of what to really expect from a warming planet, we should turn to the damage estimates from the models used by President Joe Biden's Administration, and president Barack Obama's before that to set climate policy. This research reveals that the entire global cost of climate change — not just to economies, but in every sense — will be equivalent to less than a 4.0 per cent hit to GDP by the end of the century.



Remember, by the UN's own estimates the average person in 2100 will be 450 per cent as rich as today. Global warming means she will be "only" 434 per cent as rich. This is a problem, but — contrary to the histrionics — far from catastrophic.



For wealthy countries, the narrow focus on climate objectives undermines future prosperity. The world already spends more than half a trillion dollars annually on climate policies, while rich-world government spending on innovation in such areas as health care, space, defence, agriculture and science has been declining as a percentage of GDP over recent decades. This investment underpins our future growth. Together with a stagnant or declining education performance, rich-world income has almost stalled this century. Compare this to China, where innovation spending is up 50 per cent, education is rapidly improving, and average incomes have increased five-fold since 2000.



Alarmingly, despite the extraordinary focus, we're failing even to solve climate change itself. Last year saw the largest CO₂ emissions ever.



Earlier this year, the world's elite gathered for the World Economic Forum and were asked to name "the most severe risks on a global scale over the next 10 years." They absurdly chose "climate action failure" — right before Russia started bombing Chernobyl and Kyiv.



The world has many challenges, not just the ones that get the most media attention. Climate should be tackled more effectively by funding R&D in green energy sources so they eventually outcompete fossil fuels. We need to confront authoritarian expansionism in Ukraine and elsewhere. And to ensure long-term prosperity, the world needs more and cheaper energy, better education and more innovation. We need our perspective back to overcome the elitist hyperbole on climate change.

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Anonymous

The globalist progressive elites don't want to move the world's masses from poverty to prosperity. In fact they want the opposite. They want to move the world's prosperous middle class into abject poverty. Playing games with our cheap abundant energy sources is proving to be an effective way to reach their goal.

Anonymous

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And we shall see if the world ends in ten years. :laugh3: