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DKG

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"We engaged in a series of actions going back to 2008 that the Russians viewed as highly provocative," Sacks said, adding that Russia repeatedly warned that attempts to bring Ukraine into NATO were "categorically unacceptable."

"We have these crusaders at the State Department who just want to continue expanding NATO," Sacks said.



The United States' reaction to the Soviet Union attempting to put nuclear weapons in Cuba in 1962 is comparable to Russia's reaction today to attempts to bring Ukraine into NATO, according to Sacks. He said both moves, from the perspective of the respective countires, could be considered an "intolerable security threat."


Way before 2008.... late 90's....



NATO has behaved atrociously in regards to Russia. Had they not, Russia and the entire world would have been better for it.

Russia and the former Yugoslavia. It was Bill Clinton who instigated wars and Slobadan Milosevic was the bogeyman of the day.

Frood

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Way before 2008.... late 90's....



NATO has behaved atrociously in regards to Russia. Had they not, Russia and the entire world would have been better for it.

Russia and the former Yugoslavia. It was Bill Clinton who instigated wars and Slobadan Milosevic was the bogeyman of the day.


They have this many decades long cookie cutter response "for the free world!!!" but with any inspection whatsoever, one quickly realises that it's just about maintaining hegemony and kicking out the legs of any threats, present or prospective.



I appreciate Americans but I hope America gets fucked in the arse.... finally... rightfully so.
Blahhhhhh...

DKG

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Russia and the former Yugoslavia. It was Bill Clinton who instigated wars and Slobadan Milosevic was the bogeyman of the day.


They have this many decades long cookie cutter response "for the free world!!!" but with any inspection whatsoever, one quickly realises that it's just about maintaining hegemony and kicking out the legs of any threats, present or prospective.



I appreciate Americans but I hope America gets fucked in the arse.... finally... rightfully so.

Free the world means abandon your Soviet era weapons, and buy billions worth of new armaments from us. While being another one of our lapdogs.

Frood

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They have this many decades long cookie cutter response "for the free world!!!" but with any inspection whatsoever, one quickly realises that it's just about maintaining hegemony and kicking out the legs of any threats, present or prospective.



I appreciate Americans but I hope America gets fucked in the arse.... finally... rightfully so.

Free the world means abandon your Soviet era weapons, and buy billions worth of new armaments from us. While being another one of our lapdogs.




Basically, it means capitulate... yes... offer no resistance to whatever the West and their global decision makers sneak in or outright demand.... otherwise, you'll get dragged by a rope with a foreign object lodged in your arsehole for all the internet to see but gets quickly banned for promoting violence, gore, and rape by leftist censors who log off from their jobs, go home, and get fisted for fun.
Blahhhhhh...

Herman

The man known as the QAnon Shaman, who pleaded guilty to breaching the U.S. Capitol, has been released from prison early after Fox News aired footage of him being escorted by police officers inside the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.



Jacob Chansley, 35, was moved to a halfway house in Phoenix on March 28, a U.S. Bureau of Prisons spokesperson told The Epoch Times in an email. He had been serving a 41-month sentence, handed down in November 2021, in federal prison after pleading guilty to one count of obstructing an official proceeding. :thumbup:

Herman

A grand jury in Manhattan indicted  Trump on Thursday afternoon according to numerous sources.



The New York Times reported that the precise charges are not yet known but that the investigation concerned Trump's alleged hush-money payment to Stormy Daniels, an adult film star who claimed to have an extramarital affair with him.

Herman

Finland is set to join NATO following ratification of its membership by the Turkish government — the last holdout among the 30 nations in the military alliance.

DKG

Ron DeSantis blasted the indictment of former President Donald Trump.



A New York grand jury voted on March 30 to indict Trump over allegedly misreporting a hush money payment to adult film star Stormy Daniels just weeks before the 2016 election.



In a Twitter post, in addition to slamming the indictment, DeSantis, who is expected to announce his candidacy for the White House soon, said Florida will not help extradite Trump to New York. However, extradition is out of the governor's control.



What a farce Trump's indictment is.

Oerdin

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The man known as the QAnon Shaman, who pleaded guilty to breaching the U.S. Capitol, has been released from prison early after Fox News aired footage of him being escorted by police officers inside the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.



Jacob Chansley, 35, was moved to a halfway house in Phoenix on March 28, a U.S. Bureau of Prisons spokesperson told The Epoch Times in an email. He had been serving a 41-month sentence, handed down in November 2021, in federal prison after pleading guilty to one count of obstructing an official proceeding. :thumbup:


Good.  Now prosecute the lying Democrats who illegally with held the exculpatory evidence because they wanted to drive a false narrative.  They abused people's rights, the lied to the American people, and they unlawfully weaponized the judicial process for political ends.

Herman

This is by Alan Dershowitz. He thinks a judge might toss out Trump's indictment.



https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-talk-or-action-7-actions-trump-supporters-should-promote-to-stop-politically-targeted-prosecutions?utm_source=theblaze-dailyPM&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily-Newsletter__PM%202023-03-31&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%20TheBlaze%20Daily%20PM">https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz ... Daily%20PM">https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-talk-or-action-7-actions-trump-supporters-should-promote-to-stop-politically-targeted-prosecutions?utm_source=theblaze-dailyPM&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily-Newsletter__PM%202023-03-31&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%20TheBlaze%20Daily%20PM

We no longer live in a world of equal justice under the law. We've witnessed how in the same capitol city where violent criminals are released or not prosecuted, Army veterans with clean records were held pretrial and denied due process up and down the legal system on what was, at most, non-violent misdemeanors, and at worst government provocation and entrapment. All of this is taking place while the worst Antifa rioters can take over city streets for weeks with brutal violence. Aside from Elizabeth Warren's isolated moment of intellectual honesty decrying solitary confinement for J6 defendants, we've seen no such outcry for equal treatment. Those perpetrating this believe we are subhuman and not afforded equal protection under the law.



What we have here is a two-tiered justice system that is tantamount to targeted and systemic persecution. This is how we wind up with D.C. U.S. Attorney Matthew Graves refusing to prosecute 67% of all arrests, including 52% of all felonies, but announcing 1,200 new prosecutions of J6 protesters, many of individuals who didn't even violate minor trespassing laws. This is how you have endless Antifa and BLM riots where the most violent people who beat, maimed, looted, and burned police stations to the ground got less punishment than the most innocuous J6 suspects.



Red state governors and legislatures should do the following:



1) Fund legal defense of persecuted individuals: The first step is defense. Obviously, Trump has a war chest, but most of his supporters being persecuted or pro-life activists being targeted for praying outside abortion clinics don't have money. It's also extremely hard to even get a lawyer willing to fight the system. I personally had trouble finding people lawyers when fighting January 6 charges or businessmen being prosecuted for the "crime" of opening their stores during COVID. Red states should set up a legal defense fund to contribute to the legal defense of those the state AG determines are being targeted with unequal treatment based on political, religious, or social beliefs. The AG's office can also marshal pro bono lawyers willing to help who know that they will get moral support from the state rather than being targeted as pariahs in their profession for representing such clients.



2) Refuse to extradite: Gov. DeSantis just set a precedent that Florida will not assist with extradition of those politically targeted. Other red-state governors should refuse to extradite people being accused of non-violent crimes when there is compelling evidence that other people accused of similar actions are not targeted with the same level prosecution. In the case of Trump, because he is protected by the Secret Service, there was never a chance that the NYPD would somehow be able to nab him in Florida. But for ordinary citizens, it's important for red states to make the statement that they will serve as constitutional sanctuaries for equality under the law. This will be harder to pull off in the face of a federal prosecution, but the time has clearly come to tell the blue states to shove it. Every red-state legislature should empower its state AG to block extradition if he determines it is for political reasons.



3) Slash the ABA monopoly: Connected to the previous point, it's time for state legislatures to require their state judiciaries to recognize alternatives to the American Bar Association, which has unlawfully claimed a monopoly on the entire legal profession to the point where people cannot obtain legal representation over the ABA's veto. The ABA is sanctioning people like Rudy Giuliani and Professor John Eastman for simply offering their view on constitutional questions.



4) Refuse cooperation with rogue federal agencies: Red states need to pull out of all joint training, sharing of information, and help with logistics or intel to any federal law enforcement agency that continues to target people for their political beliefs.



5) Prosecute the left more zealously: It's time to fight fire with fire. Just this week, there was a left-wing insurrection at the Tennessee Capitol. We're not asking red-state prosecutors to take minor misdemeanors and hold people pretrial for two years as the left has done with J6 defendants. However, they should more aggressively use catch-all felony statutes to throw the book at people who legitimately act violent or Democrat politicians and outside groups that legitimately violate laws.



Even though they don't control the federal government, Republicans control half the states and can easily make these changes today. That's why the primary focus should be interposing on behalf of the people's liberties at the state level. However, given the federal tyranny, there is a need to at least push for legal reforms against political targeting with legislation in the House.



6) Pass the "Political Targeting Prosecution Act": Defendants can theoretically assert an Equal Protection Clause violation; however, practically, the courts have made it almost impossible to succeed in a claim of a selective prosecution defense under the Equal Protection Clause. As such, Congress should pass the Political Targeting Prosecution Act, which would accord defendants the opportunity to present evidence of political targeting based on animus for the individual's religious or political beliefs. For example, if defendants could show how no BLM rioter who was much more violent was charged with obstructing law enforcement during a public disturbance (18 USC 231(a)(3)), it would trigger a motion to dismiss based on unequal treatment.



7) Fair jury pools: With a country more divided than during the Civil War, it's self-evident that conservatives cannot get a fair trial in liberal jurisdictions. This has rendered the Sixth Amendment's guarantee to a trial by a jury of one's peers irrelevant. In order to restore the spirit of that right in this era, Congress must demand that a conservative defendant charged in D.C. can move the trial to the federal jurisdiction where the defendant resides. There should also be a federal right to request an expanded jury pool 20-30 miles outside a major city to obtain a more "equitable" share of like-minded people composing the jury in criminal cases. So for example, whenever Democrats control the Justice Department, by definition, any political opponent will be charged in D.C. with a 95% Democrat jury pool. The new law would prescribe that the individual is tried either in his home state or, if he resides in D.C., he could request a jury pool to rope in parts of Maryland, Virginia, and the West Virginia panhandle to achieve more balance.



Trump fans are absolutely correct in asserting that this is about much more than Trump. Indeed, the political persecutions have been going on for quite some time before this indictment. So let's make our response about more than Trump and more than just promoting talking points. It's time for action. Let's systemically combat the weaponization of the justice system against those who have no voice, money, or legal help.

Herman

California was not a slave state, but seems determined to hand out reparations to black residents. The plan could cost California more than $800 billion.



This could possibly see the Newsome administration spend well over double the state's annual budget on these race-based reparations.

Lokmar

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California was not a slave state, but seems determined to hand out reparations to black residents. The plan could cost California more than $800 billion.



This could possibly see the Newsome administration spend well over double the state's annual budget on these race-based reparations.


Sheeeeeeiiiiiiit, I listened to some booga woogas saying 5 million aint enough!  ac_toofunny

DKG

Republicans seem united that the justice system is weaponized. The charges are politically motivated.

Lokmar

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Republicans seem united that the justice system is weaponized. The charges are politically motivated.


Its gotten so blatant even libtards are admitting it.

Herman

Documents newly released by the FBI revealed that the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history might have been motivated by the killer's animosity against casinos.