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Lulz... City of San Diego outlawed homelessness

Started by Frood, July 05, 2023, 05:04:56 AM

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Frood

And put in a bunch of tents on a concrete heatsink with a large fence all around it.



Can you say detention camp?  ac_toofunny



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Illegals get better treatment...
Blahhhhhh...

Adolf Oliver Bush

South Park called it...





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San Diego is full of wankers.
Her fucking fupa looked like a pair of ass cheeks... like someone naked ran into her head first and got stuck. She was like "come eat me out" and I was like "nah I think I'll go snort some anthrax and light myself on fire instead"

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Frood

Blahhhhhh...

JOE

Thats why the guvs should start taxing the land hoarders everywhere. We have a bad problem in Vancouver



So they can free up land and housing



There is enough housing available but when land hoarders snap up all the land they create sn unnatural shortage



Punish the land hoarders instead of constantly raising taxes on single home owners who end up subsidizing the hoarders



Btw a lot of these hoarders are from china

DKG

Quote from: Frood post_id=505331 time=1688547896 user_id=1676
And put in a bunch of tents on a concrete heatsink with a large fence all around it.



Can you say detention camp?  ac_toofunny



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Illegals get better treatment...

We will nevewr eliminate homelessness. It is a a lifestyle choice. West Coast cities that have tried big government solutions to it have the highest number of homeless people.

DKG

The housing crisis on the West Coast is direct result of high taxes, excessive regulations and expensive, but pointless green edicts.



Houses bought fifteen years ago for $850,000 are now worth $5,000, 000 and subject to one percent surtax or fifty thousand dollars a year forcing middle class families to sell their homes, but only the very rich can buy them. A recent B.C. Freedom of Information request by Ryan LLC, a division of global tax services and software provider Ryan ULC, revealed that British Columbians – mostly in Vancouver — are having to defer their property taxes more than ever. According to the report, "As of May 2021, nearly 73,000 residents, mostly seniors who were eligible, deferred their taxes, up from 41,488 residents in 2015/16." Despite those concerns, in December Vancouver City Council approved a 6.35 percent property tax increase, even bigger than the five percent it had initially asked city staff to budget for.



Market experts and real estate developers say B.C.'s municipal and provincial governments have created so many disincentives to investment that developers are highly reluctant to put shovels in the ground to start new housing projects. And it's not just taxes, but the onerous burden of red tape and high fees. For example, the City of Vancouver lists 18 separate inspections required merely for a single-family home, plus an additional five inspections for a detached garage. Vancouver's building permit fees are twice the average rate in major U.S. cities, according to figures compiled by the Altus Group, a real estate and data company. This is insane. The fees are so big they cannot be justified.



Further, Vancouver's building code requires enhanced insulation on both the interior and exterior of every building, unlike codes in much colder cities, such as Winnipeg and Edmonton. Vancouver has the mildest climate in Canada. To require insulation in Vancouver that isn't required in Winnipeg makes zero sense.



Nonsensical requirements increase costs and further delay projects in a market where the approval process is already notoriously slow. One-third of the Vancouver building applications submitted in 2016 were still under review in 2019 – three years later. There is a backlog of more than 500 applications from people seeking permits to build single-family homes, duplexes and laneway houses.



Developer Jon Stovell, CEO of Reliance Properties Ltd., says application processing times have tripled from what they were 10 to 20 years ago. "It takes two years to get a permit that used to take six months," Stovell says. "It takes five years to get a rezoning. It's become quite a broken system." He estimates the delays and complex requirements add 10-15 percent – hundreds of thousands of dollars – to the price of a home. The city, Stovell says, simply doesn't pause to consider the cumulative effect of all this regulation: "It's built up like a coral reef until they rip the bottom out of any ship that tries to sail through. The government is just making it too hard, too time-consuming and too expensive."



Bryn Davidson, CEO of Lanefab, which builds laneway homes, says the "layers and layers" of regulation aren't even prioritized. "We treat window trim rules the same way as life-safety rules," he notes. "That's the absurdity of having all this stuff bloating our system at a time when we have a housing crisis."



And the final nail in the coffin in Vancouver for housing is the zero emissions building standards that delay construction and and drastically increase the cost of housing while reducing the supply.

Oerdin

Quote from: Frood post_id=505331 time=1688547896 user_id=1676
And put in a bunch of tents on a concrete heatsink with a large fence all around it.



Can you say detention camp?  ac_toofunny



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Illegals get better treatment...


The 9th circuit in a case out of Idaho ruled that cities can't move homeless or force them to move unless they have free shelter space to offer to them.  Skipping over how the court ruling is making policy instead simply ruling on law...  This creates a massive problem for cities in the west because they had to create hundreds of thousands of shelter beds for homeless drug addicts.



This is actually an affordable way to officially have "shelter" to offer the druggies so that they officially can be told to GTFO.  BTW you want this temp shelter to be as uncomfortable as possible because you cannot force them to enter rehab for their drug addiction (and studies show 80%-90% are drug addicts).  So if they want better housing they actually have to enroll in free drug rehab programs.



This is actually a good policy.  I would love to restore the old "duty to care" where people who cannot or will not care for themselves get arrested and put into state institutions but in the 1970's leftists on the supreme court claimed that was unconstitutional.  So we are stuck doing stuff like this.

Oerdin

Quote from: "Adolf Oliver Bush" post_id=505337 time=1688550227 user_id=3409
South Park called it...





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San Diego is full of wankers.


Yeah, that was making fun of the Coney 2009 guy.  Who was always a completely clueless drugged out nutjob.  Like most idiot leftists he used his small child as a puppet and told him what to say on camera.  Leftists love to try to trick kids into repeating what they want them to say.  That always seemed explotative to me.

Oerdin

Quote from: JOE post_id=505340 time=1688554071 user_id=97
Thats why the guvs should start taxing the land hoarders everywhere. We have a bad problem in Vancouver



So they can free up land and housing



There is enough housing available but when land hoarders snap up all the land they create sn unnatural shortage



Punish the land hoarders instead of constantly raising taxes on single home owners who end up subsidizing the hoarders



Btw a lot of these hoarders are from china


Joe, can you please only talk about subjects you actually know something about?

Oerdin

BTW homelessness has not been outlawed.  Even the idiot Democrat mayor (only the second such Democrat to be mayor in 50 years, the first got fired a few months into office for sexual harassment) has figured out everyone hates his leftist policies and has finally decided to start enforcing the existing ban on homeless campaign on public property.  The "safe campaigning areas" are designed to get around the 9th circuit's retarded ruling I mentioned earlier.  It allows them to officially say they do have a shelter space available so druggies need to either take it or fuck off.

weebles

We have the same issue in Vancouver but the problem is they remove the people from area and they move to another and the process begins all over again.



It seems like it is not an effective strategy from what I can tell.

Oerdin

Quote from: DKG post_id=505341 time=1688564350 user_id=3390
Quote from: Frood post_id=505331 time=1688547896 user_id=1676
And put in a bunch of tents on a concrete heatsink with a large fence all around it.



Can you say detention camp?  ac_toofunny



">




Illegals get better treatment...

We will nevewr eliminate homelessness. It is a a lifestyle choice. West Coast cities that have tried big government solutions to it have the highest number of homeless people.


In fact tons more show up when you give them freebies.  Seriously, only about 15% of the homeless here are actually from San Diego County.  The rest either come here themselves for better weather and hopes of free stuff or other states/cities five them bus tickets here asbpqrt of a deal to drop the charges they are facing; basically "@e will drop the fines and charges we have against you but you have to accept this free bus ticket and sign this form where you agree to never come back.  If you do the fines and charges automatically get reinstated."

Oerdin

BTW I am glad my house is just outside the city in a technically independent city which is just a bedroom suburb of the city.  In 2020 a bunch of Democrats got elected because of TDS idiots (as if that had any effect on local governance issues) plus a tidal wave of leftist fucktards from the bay area and L.A. moved here to escape the shotholes they had turned their old cities I to.  Sadly, the retards kept voting for the same shit policies which caused them to flee from their previous home towns.



This means for the first time since WW2 our previously conservative city (it was at least purple in 2012 and 2016) went full blue in 2029 and again in 2022.  This has been a disaster and 2ill only get worse.  I really wish we could make these new comer leftist idiots just leave.

Frood

Quote from: Oerdin post_id=505528 time=1688660920 user_id=3374
Quote from: Frood post_id=505331 time=1688547896 user_id=1676
And put in a bunch of tents on a concrete heatsink with a large fence all around it.



Can you say detention camp?  ac_toofunny



">




Illegals get better treatment...


The 9th circuit in a case out of Idaho ruled that cities can't move homeless or force them to move unless they have free shelter space to offer to them.  Skipping over how the court ruling is making policy instead simply ruling on law...  This creates a massive problem for cities in the west because they had to create hundreds of thousands of shelter beds for homeless drug addicts.



This is actually an affordable way to officially have "shelter" to offer the druggies so that they officially can be told to GTFO.  BTW you want this temp shelter to be as uncomfortable as possible because you cannot force them to enter rehab for their drug addiction (and studies show 80%-90% are drug addicts).  So if they want better housing they actually have to enroll in free drug rehab programs.



This is actually a good policy.  I would love to restore the old "duty to care" where people who cannot or will not care for themselves get arrested and put into state institutions but in the 1970's leftists on the supreme court claimed that was unconstitutional.  So we are stuck doing stuff like this.


Sounds very leftist...
Blahhhhhh...

Thiel

Quote from: Oerdin post_id=505531 time=1688661264 user_id=3374
Quote from: JOE post_id=505340 time=1688554071 user_id=97
Thats why the guvs should start taxing the land hoarders everywhere. We have a bad problem in Vancouver



So they can free up land and housing



There is enough housing available but when land hoarders snap up all the land they create sn unnatural shortage



Punish the land hoarders instead of constantly raising taxes on single home owners who end up subsidizing the hoarders



Btw a lot of these hoarders are from china


Joe, can you please only talk about subjects you actually know something about?

I would be happy to talk to Joe for hours while gazing in his eyes.
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