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DKG

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on August 30, 2023, 09:11:28 AMDoing fine. Nothing so far but a little rain
You must be on your maker's good side.

Biggie Smiles

Quote from: DKG on August 30, 2023, 09:23:09 AMYou must be on your maker's good side.

God is a animal lover just like me.  :pardon:

Gremlin

Banning books & oppressing people who are different must have something to do with it!

Is that right my little maganoids?
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DKG

Quote from: Gremlin on August 30, 2023, 09:34:28 AMBanning books & oppressing people who are different must have something to do with it!

Is that right my little maganoids?
Are you referring to the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story before the US election? Collusion between the state and social media is like putting Joseph Goebbels in charge of dissemination of all information.
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Biggie Smiles

Quote from: DKG on August 30, 2023, 09:36:49 AMAre you referring to the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story before the US election? Collusion between the state and social media is like putting Joseph Goebbels in charge of dissemination of all information.

That cock gobbling ginger fairy doesn't know what he's referring too. Best to leave him there in the corner to play with his lady parts and piss all over himself like the gibbering idiot he is
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Lokmar

Hide your cawks. aidsfag is looking for some to sit on and suck!!

DKG

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on August 30, 2023, 09:45:19 AMThat cock gobbling ginger fairy doesn't know what he's referring too. Best to leave him there in the corner to play with his lady parts and piss all over himself like the gibbering idiot he is
It would appear he would prefer to do that than debate issues with me. As Joe would say, oh well.
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Gremlin

Don't say Hurricane!

50,000 without power.


Rhonda is doing a great job banning books down there though!
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DKG

Quote from: Gremlin on August 30, 2023, 10:24:14 AMDon't say Hurricane!

50,000 without power.


Rhonda is doing a great job banning books down there though!
Can you explain the connection between suppressing COVID information for example and hurricanes for those of us who do not have your advanced grasp of science.

Oliver the Second

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DKG

Gremlin will be pleased to know that 100,000 people in Florida have had their power restored overnight. Competent government and private sector collaboration. :good:
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Biggie Smiles

Quote from: DKG on August 30, 2023, 02:20:22 PMGremlin will be pleased to know that 100,000 people in Florida have had their power restored overnight. Competent government and private sector collaboration. :good:

I bet that makes him angry

and I'm sure he'll want to highlight all the effective and competent responses we saw in Maui

What say you AIDSmin? Would you like this opportunity to showcase all of the ways your competent leftist shitbags outperformed Florida in Maui ?

Or do you prefer to just sit there and smear your own feces all over your face and neck like you usually do?
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DKG

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on August 30, 2023, 02:34:59 PMI bet that makes him angry

and I'm sure he'll want to highlight all the effective and competent responses we saw in Maui

What say you AIDSmin? Would you like this opportunity to showcase all of the ways your competent leftist shitbags outperformed Florida in Maui ?

Or do you prefer to just sit there and smear your own feces all over your face and neck like you usually do?
Gremlin has suggested there is a connection between textbooks used in Florida schools and Hurricane Idalia? If that is true, one would assume the disaster in Maui is cuased by Biden denying funds to states that refuse to allow boys to compete in girls sports. It is convoluted logic to me, but perhaps Gremlin being a scientific expert can explain it.
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Herman

This was written by my buddy Alex Epstein.

   
25 myths in the media's Idalia coverage

The media are using Hurricane Idalia to spread the false narrative that fossil fuels make extreme weather danger worse.

The media are using Hurricane Idalia to spread the false narrative that fossil fuels make extreme weather danger worse.

In reality, fossil fuels make us safer from extreme weather.

Here are answers to the media's top 25 extreme weather myths.¹


Myth 1: The world is experiencing unprecedented danger from extreme weather thanks to fossil fuels.

Truth: The world is experiencing unprecedented safety from extreme weather thanks to FFs—because FFs' climate mastery benefits overwhelm any negative climate side-effects.²


Myth 2: The media and its designated experts are accurately reporting on fossil fuels and extreme weather.

Truth: The media and its "experts" are:
1. totally ignoring how fossil fuels make us safer than ever from extreme weather
2. wildly overstating fossil fuels' negative impact on weather.

Myth 3: The effect of fossil fuels on extreme weather danger is solely negative.

Truth: Not only can warming from fossil fuels have significant benefits (fewer cold deaths) but the low-cost energy fossil fuels provide for billions gives us an unprecedented ability to master extreme weather.

Fossil fuels have made us far safer from extreme weather by providing low-cost energy for the amazing machines that protect us against storms, protect us against extreme temperatures, and alleviate drought. Deaths from extreme weather have decreased 98% over the last century!³


Myth 4: We don't need fossil fuels to protect ourselves from extreme weather—we can just use alternatives.

Truth: As Europe is illustrating, there is no near-term replacement for fossil fuels for the 1/4 of the world that uses abundant energy—let alone the 3/4 of the world that doesn't.⁴

Fossil fuels will for decades remain uniquely able to provide low-cost, reliable energy to billions. That's why fossil fuels are 80% of world energy and still growing.

Restricting fossil fuel use means far less energy for climate mastery activities such as heating, cooling, and irrigation.⁵


Myth 5: The media and its designated experts are accurately reporting the scientific linking of fossil fuel use and hurricanes.

Truth: This "reporting" is riddled with
1. deliberate misrepresentations (e.g., hurricane frequency)
2. biases (e.g., only reporting negative links)

Myth 6: Media claims about increasing hurricane frequency are accurate.

Truth: Leading media outlets have deliberately misrepresented the flat long-term hurricane trend. E.g., the New York Times cherry-picking a starting point—the low point of 1980—to make a flat trend seem upward.⁶



Leading media outlets have also deliberately ignored statements by the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change about how any increases in hurricane frequency in records are likely due to increasing reporting, not actual frequency.⁷


Here are the latest data on global hurricane frequency and intensity from a 2022 paper (Klotzbach et al). Does this remotely resemble what trusted media sources tell you?⁸




Here's recent US data for landfalling hurricanes, both overall and major. Again, consuming the New York Times and other trusted sources would you have any idea that the data looked like this?⁹


Myth 7: Hurricanes are expected to get more frequent as temperatures rise.

Truth: Mainstream science expects that hurricanes will become less frequent as temperatures rise.¹⁰


Myth 8: Hurricane intensity is expected to get catastrophically higher as temperatures rise.

Truth: Mainstream estimates say hurricanes will be less frequent and between 1-10% more intense. This is not at all catastrophic if we continue our fossil-fueled climate mastery.¹¹


Myth 9: Media-cited research on extreme weather is unbiased.

Truth: Extreme weather research is riddled with biases. In addition to ignoring fossil-fueled climate mastery, many researchers have overtly political motives and ignore positive impacts of fossil fuels on weather.

Myth 10: Climate researchers have no political bias.

Truth: Certain climate attribution "scientists" admit that they are motivated by political goals and shape their "science" accordingly. E.g., media favorite Friederike Otto wants climate research "on the offensive."¹²


Myth 11: Extreme weather "attribution" researchers are simply trying to understand extreme weather and have found fossil fuels guilty.

Truth: Extreme weather "attribution" only looks for negative impacts of fossil fuels on extreme weather, brazenly ignoring any avoided negative impacts.

One of the few climate researchers who is openly looking at the full impact of fossil-fueled climate change, including potential avoided damage, is meteorologist and hurricane expert Dr. Ryan Maue. What are the chances we see his point about avoided hurricanes in the mainstream news?
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Herman

Myth 12: Attributions of X% of an extreme weather event to humans are credible.

Truth: Not only are many attributors clearly biased, but no precise estimate of this kind is possible given today's climate modeling limits, where mainstream models hugely diverge from one another.¹³


Myth 13: Fossil fuels made Hurricane Idalia worse for Florida.

Truth: While we can't know exactly how Idalia was different because of human climate impacts, we know that without fossil fuels Florida would be a third-world place that Idalia would have utterly devastated.

We also don't know how many hurricanes the US East Coast and other vulnerable spots dodged or will avoid thanks to global warming. Models cannot give us this information and since it's not a negative, no mainstream and public researcher in the field is looking for ways to find out.

Myth 14: Thanks to fossil fuels more people are dying from extreme weather.

Truth: Thanks to fossil fuels more people are not dying from extreme weather—and everything else. Fossil-fueled prosperity has driven climate disaster deaths down 98% and life expectancy up by decades.¹⁴

Myth 15: Thanks to fossil fuels we are suffering overwhelming damage from extreme weather.

Truth: The trend of real weather damage is flat—despite many factors increasing vulnerability, like increasing coastal populations and bad incentives from government bailout policies.¹⁵


3 keys to understanding climate damage statistics:
1. Damage should be measured percentage of GDP not compared dollar-for-dollar to a poorer past with less wealth at risk. (E.g., Miami Beach)
2. More people today choose to live in damage-prone areas.
3. Government bailout policies increase damage.

   
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The media are using Hurricane Idalia to spread the false narrative that fossil fuels make extreme weather danger worse.

In reality, fossil fuels make us safer from extreme weather.

Here are answers to the media's top 25 extreme weather myths.¹


Myth 1: The world is experiencing unprecedented danger from extreme weather thanks to fossil fuels.

Truth: The world is experiencing unprecedented safety from extreme weather thanks to FFs—because FFs' climate mastery benefits overwhelm any negative climate side-effects.²


Myth 2: The media and its designated experts are accurately reporting on fossil fuels and extreme weather.

Truth: The media and its "experts" are:
1. totally ignoring how fossil fuels make us safer than ever from extreme weather
2. wildly overstating fossil fuels' negative impact on weather.

Myth 3: The effect of fossil fuels on extreme weather danger is solely negative.

Truth: Not only can warming from fossil fuels have significant benefits (fewer cold deaths) but the low-cost energy fossil fuels provide for billions gives us an unprecedented ability to master extreme weather.

Fossil fuels have made us far safer from extreme weather by providing low-cost energy for the amazing machines that protect us against storms, protect us against extreme temperatures, and alleviate drought. Deaths from extreme weather have decreased 98% over the last century!³


Myth 4: We don't need fossil fuels to protect ourselves from extreme weather—we can just use alternatives.

Truth: As Europe is illustrating, there is no near-term replacement for fossil fuels for the 1/4 of the world that uses abundant energy—let alone the 3/4 of the world that doesn't.⁴

Fossil fuels will for decades remain uniquely able to provide low-cost, reliable energy to billions. That's why fossil fuels are 80% of world energy and still growing.

Restricting fossil fuel use means far less energy for climate mastery activities such as heating, cooling, and irrigation.⁵


Myth 5: The media and its designated experts are accurately reporting the scientific linking of fossil fuel use and hurricanes.

Truth: This "reporting" is riddled with
1. deliberate misrepresentations (e.g., hurricane frequency)
2. biases (e.g., only reporting negative links)

Myth 6: Media claims about increasing hurricane frequency are accurate.

Truth: Leading media outlets have deliberately misrepresented the flat long-term hurricane trend. E.g., the New York Times cherry-picking a starting point—the low point of 1980—to make a flat trend seem upward.⁶



Leading media outlets have also deliberately ignored statements by the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change about how any increases in hurricane frequency in records are likely due to increasing reporting, not actual frequency.⁷


Here are the latest data on global hurricane frequency and intensity from a 2022 paper (Klotzbach et al). Does this remotely resemble what trusted media sources tell you?⁸




Here's recent US data for landfalling hurricanes, both overall and major. Again, consuming the New York Times and other trusted sources would you have any idea that the data looked like this?⁹


Myth 7: Hurricanes are expected to get more frequent as temperatures rise.

Truth: Mainstream science expects that hurricanes will become less frequent as temperatures rise.¹⁰


Myth 8: Hurricane intensity is expected to get catastrophically higher as temperatures rise.

Truth: Mainstream estimates say hurricanes will be less frequent and between 1-10% more intense. This is not at all catastrophic if we continue our fossil-fueled climate mastery.¹¹


Myth 9: Media-cited research on extreme weather is unbiased.

Truth: Extreme weather research is riddled with biases. In addition to ignoring fossil-fueled climate mastery, many researchers have overtly political motives and ignore positive impacts of fossil fuels on weather.

Myth 10: Climate researchers have no political bias.

Truth: Certain climate attribution "scientists" admit that they are motivated by political goals and shape their "science" accordingly. E.g., media favorite Friederike Otto wants climate research "on the offensive."¹²


Myth 11: Extreme weather "attribution" researchers are simply trying to understand extreme weather and have found fossil fuels guilty.

Truth: Extreme weather "attribution" only looks for negative impacts of fossil fuels on extreme weather, brazenly ignoring any avoided negative impacts.

One of the few climate researchers who is openly looking at the full impact of fossil-fueled climate change, including potential avoided damage, is meteorologist and hurricane expert Dr. Ryan Maue. What are the chances we see his point about avoided hurricanes in the mainstream news?

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Ryan Maue
@RyanMaue
Hurricane Dorian 3-years ago stalled just off the Florida coast in Bahamas & tracked north, paralleling the coast. New analysis of the event strongly suggests that climate change stopped Dorian's advance. Researchers have directly linked slowing of hurricanes to climate change.
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Myth 12: Attributions of X% of an extreme weather event to humans are credible.

Truth: Not only are many attributors clearly biased, but no precise estimate of this kind is possible given today's climate modeling limits, where mainstream models hugely diverge from one another.¹³


Myth 13: Fossil fuels made Hurricane Idalia worse for Florida.

Truth: While we can't know exactly how Idalia was different because of human climate impacts, we know that without fossil fuels Florida would be a third-world place that Idalia would have utterly devastated.

We also don't know how many hurricanes the US East Coast and other vulnerable spots dodged or will avoid thanks to global warming. Models cannot give us this information and since it's not a negative, no mainstream and public researcher in the field is looking for ways to find out.

Myth 14: Thanks to fossil fuels more people are dying from extreme weather.

Truth: Thanks to fossil fuels more people are not dying from extreme weather—and everything else. Fossil-fueled prosperity has driven climate disaster deaths down 98% and life expectancy up by decades.¹⁴

Myth 15: Thanks to fossil fuels we are suffering overwhelming damage from extreme weather.

Truth: The trend of real weather damage is flat—despite many factors increasing vulnerability, like increasing coastal populations and bad incentives from government bailout policies.¹⁵


3 keys to understanding climate damage statistics:
1. Damage should be measured percentage of GDP not compared dollar-for-dollar to a poorer past with less wealth at risk. (E.g., Miami Beach)
2. More people today choose to live in damage-prone areas.
3. Government bailout policies increase damage.

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Michael Shellenberger
@ShellenbergerMD
The increasing cost of hurricane damage can be explained entirely by more people and more property in harm's way. Consider how much more developed Miami Beach is today compared to a century ago. Once you adjust for rising wealth, there is no trend of increasing damage.
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Myth 16: Extreme temperatures are a bigger danger than ever thanks to fossil fuels.

Truth: Extreme temperatures are a smaller danger than ever thanks to fossil-fueled heating and A/C—plus the net-benefits of warming in a world where far more people die of cold than heat.¹⁶


Myth 17: Storms are a bigger danger than ever thanks to fossil fuels.

Truth: Storms are a smaller danger than ever thanks to the fossil-fueled machines that build sturdy buildings, as well as fossil-fueled weather warning systems and fossil-fueled disaster relief efforts.¹⁷


Myth 18: Drought is a bigger danger than ever thanks to fossil fuels.

Truth: Drought is a smaller danger than ever thanks to fossil-fueled irrigation, crop transport, and agriculture. With more such mastery our crop productivity can continue to improve.¹⁸


Myth 19: Floods are a bigger danger than ever thanks to fossil fuels.

Truth: Floods are a smaller danger than ever thanks to fossil-fueled flood control infrastructure and disaster relief.¹⁹


Myth 20: The rich, fossil-fueled world has ruined the poor world by making them vulnerable to extreme weather.

Truth: Fossil fuels have made everyone more prosperous and less vulnerable to extreme weather.

To be even better off the poor world needs more fossil fuels!²⁰


Myth 21: We can expect fossil fuels to make extreme weather far more dangerous in the future.

Truth: Fossil fuels' climate mastery benefits have far overwhelmed any negative side-effects on extreme weather for 100+ years and there's every reason to expect this to continue.²¹

Myth 22: Rapidly eliminating fossil fuels will make us safer from climate disasters.

Truth: Fossil fuels provide uniquely cost-effective energy in a world that needs far more energy. Rapidly eliminating fossil fuels means far less energy, which means catastrophic climate impotence—and mass death.²²

Myth 23: Fossil fuel use made Idalia far more damaging.

Truth: Idalia would be far more dangerous without fossil fuel use.

Further, the role of rising CO2 levels in any given storm is highly speculative, leading scientists predict only modestly more powerful (and less frequent) storms.

Commentators try to claim a scientific connection between hurricanes and climate change because these storms are so impactful and could help their political agenda. But hurricanes are a particularly bad example because empirical science doesn't show a danger increase so far.²³


While leading scientists say that future hurricanes can become slightly stronger and less frequent, there is little evidence today of strong influence from warming so far. In any case, what we face is a level of danger that we can readily master—if we can use fossil fuels.

Commentators treating speculation about hurricanes being more dangerous right now due to climate change as fact are dishonest. How destructive a hurricane is today is mostly a function of the path it takes and the area's preparedness. Gladly, Florida seems to have avoided deaths.

Myth 24: When a major storm hits, politicians like Governor Ron DeSantis should commit to anti-fossil-fuel policies.

Truth: That would be pseudoscientific symbolism, and would make their constituents poorer and more vulnerable going forward. Like Europe, which is now afraid of winter.

It is absolutely shameful that the political opponents of Governor DeSantis are trying to blame him for the damage of Hurricane Idalia given that 1) the pro-freedom, pro-energy policies he supports lessened the damage and 2) his focus now is where it should be: hastening recovery.²⁴


Myth 25: The next extreme weather event you hear about would have been much better if we had rapidly eliminated fossil fuels.

Truth: We will be far safer from that event thanks to fossil fuels. And we are also alive with our current life expectancy thanks to fossil fuels.