Electricity generation and EV debate with Gremlin

[Oerdin]

I mean what if I don't want my hypothetical electric car battery to be drained because I know I need to use it?  What if I paid for a home backup battery system for my house because I wanted to power MY house and not other people's houses?  Why is there no credit for the battery degradation repeated charges and deep discharges do to battery packs?  Why don't I get market rate for the electricity I would be supplying?  Add in that the problem was 100% to do with left wing politicians shutting down cheap and reliable power for their unscientific cult and you see why I oppose this despite understanding I need solar (and possibly a home backup battery or two) simply to escape the sky high continuous rate hikes those politicians are forcing onto everyone.

Shit, these communists are now in the process of passing a law so that scrubs (read welfare sucking Democrat voters who refuse to work) won't have to pay for electricity but everyone else has to pay much higher rates.  The rate per kwh keeps going up the more income you make too.  So if you use the same key as someone else he might pay nothing despite using far more total kwh while you pay 10 times the previous rate because "you have a good paying job so fuck you".

[Oerdin]

It just pisses me off because I don't have a good paying job because of some mythical "white privilege" (BTW Asians are now white according to the Democraps) but because I made sure to qualify myself for a good paying job, actually did a good job, showed up on time, excelled at it because I wanted to build a good career and to have a good reputation in my industry.  Hell, my parents didn't give me a cent for college, I got good grades, applied for scholarships, held a part time job, and even joined the Army Reserve so that I was able to graduate with less than $10,000 in loan debt.  I paid that off in less than two years by living very far below my means, driving the same old paid off car for years and years, and basically saving everything possible.

That was also how I bought my first home in my 20's. So many other people were buying luxury cars, making fun of my old Toyota, going out to bars/eating out daily, while I deliberately stayed loving like a broke college student to save cash.  The reward?  I bought a house, rented out my spare rooms, and it was the "friends" who bought fancy cars and made fun of my old car who paid my mortgage via the rooms I rented to them.

[Biggie Smiles]

It just pisses me off because I don't have a good paying job because of some mythical "white privilege" (BTW Asians are now white according to the Democraps) but because I made sure to qualify myself for a good paying job, actually did a good job, showed up on time, excelled at it because I wanted to build a good career and to have a good reputation in my industry.  Hell, my parents didn't give me a cent for college, I got good grades, applied for scholarships, held a part time job, and even joined the Army Reserve so that I was able to graduate with less than $10,000 in loan debt.  I paid that off in less than two years by living very far below my means, driving the same old paid off car for years and years, and basically saving everything possible.

That was also how I bought my first home in my 20's. So many other people were buying luxury cars, making fun of my old Toyota, going out to bars/eating out daily, while I deliberately stayed loving like a broke college student to save cash.  The reward?  I bought a house, rented out my spare rooms, and it was the "friends" who bought fancy cars and made fun of my old car who paid my mortgage via the rooms I rented to them.

Democrats do not value such accomplishments because they demonstrate clearly the ability of the person to think for themselves and go against the grain.

it's that simple.

Reward the borg mentality so that they can end up with a pliable voting base that HAS the borg mentality

Best shielding from this infectious insanity is to seek temporary refuge in a state which still values such qualities. And I say temporary because the whole country is circling the drain right about now with Red states only comprising the tail end of the loaf. 

Either we take this country back by any means necessary or we enjoy life in the American sewer system democrats are creating.

[Lokmar]

As I said in Shoutbox, if you want to talk about Trump(or Ron DeSantis) you should explain how either are germane to the discussion at hand. In this case we are talking about electricity pollcy and ev mandates. Since you brought up the Biden administration's abuse of power to block his main opponent and also school textbooks in Florida, please explain how either has any relevance to jacking up electricity costs with wind and solar subsidies or the unsustainability of electric vehicles? Perhaps I am not perceptive and missed the link. Here's your chance to educate us.

Thats not how this is gonna work.

[Thiel]

An entire global fleet of electrical vehicles is nothing more than a pipe dream.
 
1. There isn't enough raw materials to transform the global fleet.
2. It would turn the entire planet into one giant tailings pond as every inch of the third world is ripped open for rare earth metals and poisoned to make people in developed countries feel smug about their environmental footprint.
3. How would the exponential increase in electricity demand be met? It would not be wind and solar because we do not have the raw materials necessary let alone the land for diffuse sources of energy.
4. One hundred percent of ICE batteries are recycled. That is not the case for electric car batteries. Where would the world get the land to dispose of massive toxic batteries? Ship them to third world countries?
5. The developing=developed country divide. The U.N. Children's Fund (UNICEF) reports that about 20 percent of cobalt supplied from the DRC comes from artisanal mines, "where human rights abuses have been reported, and up to 40,000 children work in extremely dangerous conditions in the mines for meagre income."

The U.N. also fears that cobalt-copper mines in DRC may contain sulphur minerals that contribute to Acid mine drainage (AMD), a phenomenon that causes pollution or contamination of surface water, thereby increasing the toxicity of rivers and drinking water.

Does anybody think developing countries will tolerate a hundred fold increase in deadly pollution and human rights abuses just because developed countries have foolishly mandated an electrical fleet.


I can go on, but I think this is a good start for now.

The ball is in your court Gremlin.

We are playing a risky game with electricity. Electricity generation must be an all of the above approach. Barack Obama used to support that sensible approach.

Electric autos cannot be a forced transition. If a transition does take place, it must be market forces. Similar to the transition to flat screen televisions.

[Lokmar]

If we could convince Aidsfaggit that electricity tasted like cawk, he'd take 1.21 jigawats through the asshole and mouth simultaneously. FACT!

[Lokmar]

I mean what if I don't want my hypothetical electric car battery to be drained because I know I need to use it?  What if I paid for a home backup battery system for my house because I wanted to power MY house and not other people's houses?  Why is there no credit for the battery degradation repeated charges and deep discharges do to battery packs?  Why don't I get market rate for the electricity I would be supplying?  Add in that the problem was 100% to do with left wing politicians shutting down cheap and reliable power for their unscientific cult and you see why I oppose this despite understanding I need solar (and possibly a home backup battery or two) simply to escape the sky high continuous rate hikes those politicians are forcing onto everyone.

Shit, these communists are now in the process of passing a law so that scrubs (read welfare sucking Democrat voters who refuse to work) won't have to pay for electricity but everyone else has to pay much higher rates.  The rate per kwh keeps going up the more income you make too.  So if you use the same key as someone else he might pay nothing despite using far more total kwh while you pay 10 times the previous rate because "you have a good paying job so fuck you".

Sorry, but the precedent was previously set when the people agreed that businesses should pay a higher rate than private individuals.

[Herman]

Apegirl has shown what a retard he is in this thread.

[Dove]

As I said in Shoutbox, if you want to talk about Trump(or Ron DeSantis) you should explain how either are germane to the discussion at hand. In this case we are talking about electricity pollcy and ev mandates. Since you brought up the Biden administration's abuse of power to block his main opponent and also school textbooks in Florida, please explain how either has any relevance to jacking up electricity costs with wind and solar subsidies or the unsustainability of electric vehicles? Perhaps I am not perceptive and missed the link. Here's your chance to educate us.

 He won't. He just hates on people and trashes them. He won't actually discuss anything.

[Oliver the Second]

Trying to have a civil conversation with a leftist is a complete waste of time. They simply do not possess the intellectual capacity needed.

[Adolf Oliver Bush]

I read something like that. Elctric vehicles waste energy.

You think that's good, you know Bill Gates has a plan to fell a shit-ton of trees and lock them up in hermetically sealed caves for the carbon credits, yeah?