Electricity generation and EV debate with Gremlin

[DKG]

Today, the Western Canadian province of Alberta asked Albertans to reduce their electricity consumption as that province with it's heavy reliance on wind in certain areas reaches it's limits in times of higher usage.

Strangely eneough this was never a problem before a former socialist provincial government decommissioned their coal fired power plants. Today, gas powered plants keep the lights running while massive ugly wind turbines provide an expensive, but ineffective virtue signalling toy for the province's urban leftists.

[DKG]

An entire global fleet of electrical vehicles is nothing more than a pipe dream.
 
1. There isn't enough raw materials to transform the global fleet.
2. It would turn the entire planet into one giant tailings pond as every inch of the third world is ripped open for rare earth metals and poisoned to make people in developed countries feel smug about their environmental footprint.
3. How would the exponential increase in electricity demand be met? It would not be wind and solar because we do not have the raw materials necessary let alone the land for diffuse sources of energy.
4. One hundred percent of ICE batteries are recycled. That is not the case for electric car batteries. Where would the world get the land to dispose of massive toxic batteries? Ship them to third world countries?
5. The developing=developed country divide. The U.N. Children's Fund (UNICEF) reports that about 20 percent of cobalt supplied from the DRC comes from artisanal mines, "where human rights abuses have been reported, and up to 40,000 children work in extremely dangerous conditions in the mines for meagre income."

The U.N. also fears that cobalt-copper mines in DRC may contain sulphur minerals that contribute to Acid mine drainage (AMD), a phenomenon that causes pollution or contamination of surface water, thereby increasing the toxicity of rivers and drinking water.

Does anybody think developing countries will tolerate a hundred fold increase in deadly pollution and human rights abuses just because developed countries have foolishly mandated an electrical fleet.


I can go on, but I think this is a good start for now.

The ball is in your court Gremlin.

[DKG]

Look Gremlin, I am looking for a civil debate on energy generation and ev mandates. I will not call you names. I am not a flamer, I do not substitute ad hom attacks for topic discussion. I wil pick apart any points you make I think are incorrect. I will not call you a cocksucker. But, you are free to call me a Trumptard even though I do not want him to be president again.

What do you say? Let the debate begin.

[deadskinmask]

one thing i've learned is that you can't get results from just setting up a red pill vending machine.... if you want real results, you gotta take it to em.... hit em in the face a few times with it.... get em mad and THEN install a vending machine....

[Gremlin]

Ban books & ban indictments is the only way to Freedumb!

[deadskinmask]

Ban books & ban indictments is the only way to Freedumb!

i'm quite unfamiliar with you so i don't actually know what your mental capabilities are.... i try not to let other ppls opinions of folks affect my opinion of them.... but i feel like i should tell you - posts like the one i'm quoting don't help your case nor cause.... it actually makes you look like you have EVEN LESS of a valid point (if the were even possible for a liberal).... now this may be just how you entertain yourself and thats cool.... but if you actually CARE about the policies you represent, you should know you're doing them a great disservice representing them in such an ignorant fashion....

[Biggie Smiles]

Ban books & ban indictments is the only way to Freedumb!

Talk to your doctor if you experience TDS hot flashes lasting more than 4 years

[Gremlin]

Is this a bad time, snowflakes?

[Reggie Essent]

I applaud DKG for his gentle patience, but I guess Admin - er, I mean Gremlin - decided to answer deadskinmask's question about his mental capacities with a TDS meme.

It might be my fault.  I was over at BF earlier and I accidentally triggered him into a meme spam rage that went on for 10 or 15 posts.

[Biggie Smiles]

I applaud DKG for his gentle patience, but I guess Admin - er, I mean Gremlin - decided to answer deadskinmask's question about his mental capacities with a TDS meme.

It might be my fault.  I was over at BF earlier and I accidentally triggered him into a meme spam rage that went on for 10 or 15 posts.

That ginger cock repository wakes up in the morning triggered before his webbed feet even touch the piss soaked floorboards

[DKG]

Ban books & ban indictments is the only way to Freedumb!

As I said in Shoutbox, if you want to talk about Trump(or Ron DeSantis) you should explain how either are germane to the discussion at hand. In this case we are talking about electricity pollcy and ev mandates. Since you brought up the Biden administration's abuse of power to block his main opponent and also school textbooks in Florida, please explain how either has any relevance to jacking up electricity costs with wind and solar subsidies or the unsustainability of electric vehicles? Perhaps I am not perceptive and missed the link. Here's your chance to educate us.

[Biggie Smiles]

But I too applaud brother DKG's earnest and authentic efforts to drag a logical debate out of a rock spider like AIDsmin.

It's a noble effort, but sooner or later he'll get over this pipe dream and realize what we have all come to know about this fucking drooling primate. He, and the other idiots he consorts with are hopeless. Absolutely and unequivocally hopeless 

it may take him some time to get there as we all have our own tolerance levels but he will arrive. Eventually

Hell, it took Dove nearly two years to accept this so he's in excellent company as far as I am concerned

[DKG]

one thing i've learned is that you can't get results from just setting up a red pill vending machine.... if you want real results, you gotta take it to em.... hit em in the face a few times with it.... get em mad and THEN install a vending machine....

You mean like you did with us when we are had our COVID war? You won that debate by a country mile.

I do have strong opinions on this thread topic. I can back up a lot of my opinions with data too. But, I do not have your debate skills. You are the Vivek Ramaswamy of the forums.

[DKG]

But I too applaud brother DKG's earnest and authentic efforts to drag a logical debate out of a rock spider like AIDsmin.

It's a noble effort, but sooner or later he'll get over this pipe dream and realize what we have all come to know about this fucking drooling primate. He, and the other idiots he consorts with are hopeless. Absolutely and unequivocally hopeless 

it may take him some time to get there as we all have our own tolerance levels but he will arrive. Eventually

Hell, it took Dove nearly two years to accept this so he's in excellent company as far as I am concerned

What am I doing wrong? I think I am being civil. I am trying my best to stick to the thread topic.

[Biggie Smiles]

As I said in Shoutbox, if you want to talk about Trump(or Ron DeSantis) you should explain how either are germane to the discussion at hand. In this case we are talking about electricity pollcy and ev mandates. Since you brought up the Biden administration's abuse of power to block his main opponent and also school textbooks in Florida, please explain how either has any relevance to jacking up electricity costs with wind and solar subsidies or the unsustainability of electric vehicles? Perhaps I am not perceptive and missed the link. Here's your chance to educate us.

First and foremost my dear friend.

Multi sylable words like sustainability, germane, electricity, discussion? etc etc? Out of the question.

This mewling Muppet can hardly process simple grunts and groans with any level of efficiency so words like those are only going to inspire violent, sudden and sustained bowel movements of the very milky variety followed up by three or four stupid memes which have no relevance whatsoever

Know thy target, friend.