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Quote from: "cc li tarte"Come on, please entertain us further!! Do eeet!!

Just so you know, Romero doesn't believe his silliness himself. At the very least conservative-leaning Hollywood actors face the cold shoulder. At the extreme, it is out and out discrimination.



LOS ANGELES –  This week, actor James Woods took to Twitter to criticize President Obama amid the government slimdown and also said he now expects to struggle to find work in left-leaning Los Angeles. So is Woods on target, or just paranoid?



According to Mell Flynn, President of the Hollywood Congress of Republicans, discrimination against Republicans in Hollywood indeed runs rampant.



"I have known quite a few people who were let go from a job after they made their political affiliation known. Maybe it was a coincidence, but I doubt it. This type of discrimination is hard to prove though, especially where actors are concerned," she told FOX411. "They just won't get hired or even called in to read for a part."

Romero

From the same article:


Quote"Dozens of Republicans have come out of the closet recently with no repercussions," insisted producer Mark Joseph, a self-proclaimed registered independent.



Some industry experts have even gone as far as to say that the so-called GOP discrimination is pretty much a myth.



Last year, the former head of MGM and powerful Hollywood Republican, and former member of President Reagan's Advisory Committee, Harry Sloan wrote in the Hollywood Reporter that he has never actually heard of GOP bias actually happening.



"Clueless" star Stacey Dash came under enormous attack in the Twitterverse last year when she dared endorse GOP candidate Mitt Romney for the Presidency – yet she told us just weeks ago that not a single person has challenged her political views to her face, and work is going great in terms of developing her own television projects, mobile apps and inking a book deal.



And then there's the likes of Gary Sinise, a devout GOP-er who is deemed one of the most respected TV actors as a star on the long-running "CSI: NY," as well as Patricia Heaton who has managed to keep her job on the ABC sitcom "The Middle." And of course there's Clint Eastwood, a conservative Republican who has not only held a position in public office for his party but yelled at a chair during the Republican National Convention last year – yes, he is still working and yes, he is still pretty celebrated.



http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/10/11/criticizing-obama-does-it-really-get-blacklisted-in-hollywood/">//http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/10/11/criticizing-obama-does-it-really-get-blacklisted-in-hollywood/

Just a few months after the Twitter comment, James Woods starred in a new movie. He's working in another movie right now.



All we have are claims yet not one single example. Facts require proof, otherwise a conspiracy theory is just a conspiracy theory.



Running rampant? If it's so rampant why no examples? So far we've only got James Woods who is indeed still working, and Kelsey Grammer who is working nonstop in film and tv.



And there are many liberal celebrities who have criticized Obama with no problem. No, Obama does not control Hollywood.

Anonymous

QuoteActors Drew Carey, Pat Sajak, Patricia Heaton, Ben Stein, Vincent Gallo, producer Douglas Urbanski (The Contender), director John Milius and film critic/talk show host Michael Medved (among others) all make appearances; despite their recognizable successes, they all comment about lost job opportunities and negative reactions from co-stars, collaborators and money-men.



Moss seems to think that Heaton's Emmy wins mean that she hasn't suffered blowback from her pro-life views, but this runs counter to her complaint that for all the liberal talk of diversity and tolerance, no one wants to even discuss the subject of abortion. Carey, meanwhile, remarks that he's been crossed-off casting lists for his views - he's actually more a Libertarian, which he defines as "a conservative who still gets high" - and acknowledges not fitting into the Hollywood's perceived anti-war, anti-military consensus.

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2006/01/07/rated-r-republicans-in-hollywood">http://ca.ign.com/articles/2006/01/07/r ... -hollywood">http://ca.ign.com/articles/2006/01/07/rated-r-republicans-in-hollywood


Well you've convinced me Romero that there is no lefty bias in Hollywood.  :roll: Some successful conservative actors proves it does not exist. The US has a half-black prez, so therefore not discrimination against blacks and Canada has Aboriginal MP's and MLA's, so how could there be discrimination of any kind against them. All a vast right-wing conspiracy. :lol:

ghost

Quote from: "Shen Li"
QuoteActors Drew Carey, Pat Sajak, Patricia Heaton, Ben Stein, Vincent Gallo, producer Douglas Urbanski (The Contender), director John Milius and film critic/talk show host Michael Medved (among others) all make appearances; despite their recognizable successes, they all comment about lost job opportunities and negative reactions from co-stars, collaborators and money-men.



Moss seems to think that Heaton's Emmy wins mean that she hasn't suffered blowback from her pro-life views, but this runs counter to her complaint that for all the liberal talk of diversity and tolerance, no one wants to even discuss the subject of abortion. Carey, meanwhile, remarks that he's been crossed-off casting lists for his views - he's actually more a Libertarian, which he defines as "a conservative who still gets high" - and acknowledges not fitting into the Hollywood's perceived anti-war, anti-military consensus.

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2006/01/07/rated-r-republicans-in-hollywood">http://ca.ign.com/articles/2006/01/07/r ... -hollywood">http://ca.ign.com/articles/2006/01/07/rated-r-republicans-in-hollywood


Well you've convinced me Romero that there is no lefty bias in Hollywood.  :roll: Some successful conservative actors proves it does not exist. The US has a half-black prez, so therefore not discrimination against blacks and Canada has Aboriginal MP's and MLA's, so how could there be discrimination of any kind against them. All a vast right-wing conspiracy. :lol:


The moment that article quoted Vincent Gallo, it lost all credibility. I mean come on, the man's been trying to sell his sperm for a million dollars, offering a discount to a natural blue eyed blonde. http://www.vgmerchandise.com/store/pages.php?pageid=4">http://www.vgmerchandise.com/store/pages.php?pageid=4



The reason people don't get jobs in Hollywood has nothing to do with political beliefs. It has to do with how much money they bring into the studios. A perfect example would be Tom Cruise. Nuttier than a loon, but still brings in millions so they continue to hire him.

cc

Quote No, Obama does not control Hollywood.
Of course not. The reverse would be closer to the reality ... using the words "campaigns (pays) for and greatly influences" in place of the word "controls"



Seems he worships Hollywood, constantly enjoying its company a hell of a lot more that leading the country. It is an embarrasing  love affair in both directions ... then, plastic people attract plastic people
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Benjamin Shapiro has a book about Hollywood's liberal bias and discrimination against fellow actors with different beliefs.



http://www.hollywoodrepublican.net/2011/06/new-book-on-how-how-left-controls-hollywood/">http://www.hollywoodrepublican.net/2011 ... hollywood/">http://www.hollywoodrepublican.net/2011/06/new-book-on-how-how-left-controls-hollywood/

Primetime Propaganda

Hollywood liberals consistently deny that they "blacklist" conservatives, or that center-right political views are routinely and overtly excluded from the entertainment industry's collective voice. But in a strong riposte, Ben Shapiro's new book, "Primetime Propaganda: The True Hollywood Story of How the Left Took Over Your TV", provides extensive documentation on Hollywood's political clout, demonstrating the crippling hand the entertainment industry has in pushing Americans to readily accept its left-wing agenda as a truthful reality.



It's no secret that Hollywood discriminates against conservative actors, but Shapiro works to expose a different problem: the concerted efforts by entertainment industry executives to shape Americans into Hollywood's liberal mold. After interviewing over one hundred Hollywood kingpins, Shapiro found that not only will they readily admit that Hollywood has a strict anti-conservative agenda, but further, that many of their TV shows have underlying political messages meant to influence the way their audiences think.



While viewers might believe they can separate themselves from the subliminal messaging, Shapiro counters that idea.



You get home from work, kick off your shoes, and plop down in front of the TV, hoping simply to chill out. Instead, you get unmitigated liberalism pouring out of your TV. But you continue to watch because it's great. It's fun, thrilling, dramatic, or hilarious. We think it has no impact on us.



But it does. Television made Barack Obama. Television it supported bigger and bigger government, from Welfare to health care; pushed abortion-on-demand and the radical gay agenda into the mainstream; it stumped against war and for meaningless buzzwords like diversity and dangerous buzzwords like multiculturalism. Television has done more to change the politics of our nation than simple politics has.



Television has manipulated us. And those who create television have done it purposefully, and elegantly. They have weeded out conservatives in the industry wholesale. They have worked hand-in-glove with liberals in government to forward the leftist agenda. They have turned pure entertainment into a vehicle for propaganda.



Shapiro prodded his way into Hollywood and found many executives who willingly admitted to this bias. One of his interviews was with Hallmark Channel VP Barbara Fisher, who agreed with Shapiro's hypothetical that an actor wearing a McCain t-shirt would elicit a much different response than an actor wearing an Obama t-shirt (her statment comes at the 1:20 mark).

cc

Quote .....Television has done more to change the politics of our nation than simple politics has. .....



.... Television made Barack Obama
Of course. Objective / eyes open people see and  know that. .....



But  But  But  But  Querky has his copy paste sites designed to give the "believers / Querkies" material to counter ANY such terrible talk - a large industry designed ONLY to counter opposition and to keep the current illiterates in power commonly used by the believers / suckers ... not to mention any examples  :roll:



Meantime, fewer people work than since 75 (boggling what with a large population increase), white & especially black "total employment" numbers  continue to fall, assets are down 5,000 average ...  the world itself is a MESS!! and getting worse every day ... yet that propaganda machine of the MSMedia keeps spewing out "all is OK" distortion for the fools to believe and for the Querkies to copy / paste to counter any references to realities on the ground



For those who believe the MSM, there is no real world anymore - There is only this imaginary  "Obamaworld" ... AKA Alice in Wonderland



I look forward to seeing the next hilarious robotic copy / paste attempt to distort reality and support unreality
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Romero

Quote from: "seoulbro"Benjamin Shapiro has a book about Hollywood's liberal bias and discrimination against fellow actors with different beliefs.



http://www.hollywoodrepublican.net/2011/06/new-book-on-how-how-left-controls-hollywood/">http://www.hollywoodrepublican.net/2011 ... hollywood/">http://www.hollywoodrepublican.net/2011/06/new-book-on-how-how-left-controls-hollywood/

Primetime Propaganda

Hollywood liberals consistently deny that they "blacklist" conservatives, or that center-right political views are routinely and overtly excluded from the entertainment industry's collective voice. But in a strong riposte, Ben Shapiro's new book, "Primetime Propaganda: The True Hollywood Story of How the Left Took Over Your TV", provides extensive documentation on Hollywood's political clout, demonstrating the crippling hand the entertainment industry has in pushing Americans to readily accept its left-wing agenda as a truthful reality.



It's no secret that Hollywood discriminates against conservative actors, but Shapiro works to expose a different problem: the concerted efforts by entertainment industry executives to shape Americans into Hollywood's liberal mold. After interviewing over one hundred Hollywood kingpins, Shapiro found that not only will they readily admit that Hollywood has a strict anti-conservative agenda, but further, that many of their TV shows have underlying political messages meant to influence the way their audiences think.



While viewers might believe they can separate themselves from the subliminal messaging, Shapiro counters that idea.



You get home from work, kick off your shoes, and plop down in front of the TV, hoping simply to chill out. Instead, you get unmitigated liberalism pouring out of your TV. But you continue to watch because it's great. It's fun, thrilling, dramatic, or hilarious. We think it has no impact on us.



But it does. Television made Barack Obama. Television it supported bigger and bigger government, from Welfare to health care; pushed abortion-on-demand and the radical gay agenda into the mainstream; it stumped against war and for meaningless buzzwords like diversity and dangerous buzzwords like multiculturalism. Television has done more to change the politics of our nation than simple politics has.



Television has manipulated us. And those who create television have done it purposefully, and elegantly. They have weeded out conservatives in the industry wholesale. They have worked hand-in-glove with liberals in government to forward the leftist agenda. They have turned pure entertainment into a vehicle for propaganda.



Shapiro prodded his way into Hollywood and found many executives who willingly admitted to this bias. One of his interviews was with Hallmark Channel VP Barbara Fisher, who agreed with Shapiro's hypothetical that an actor wearing a McCain t-shirt would elicit a much different response than an actor wearing an Obama t-shirt (her statment comes at the 1:20 mark).

That stuff is quite ridiculous. Let's put it to the test!


QuoteTelevision it supported bigger and bigger government, from Welfare to health care; pushed abortion-on-demand and the radical gay agenda into the mainstream; it stumped against war and for meaningless buzzwords like diversity and dangerous buzzwords like multiculturalism.

"All this and more on tonight's episode of The Big Bang Theory! Only on CBS!"



Seriously, has anyone here ever seen anything like that on any tv show? I certainly haven't.

ghost

Quote from: "seoulbro"Benjamin Shapiro has a book about Hollywood's liberal bias and discrimination against fellow actors with different beliefs.



http://www.hollywoodrepublican.net/2011/06/new-book-on-how-how-left-controls-hollywood/">http://www.hollywoodrepublican.net/2011 ... hollywood/">http://www.hollywoodrepublican.net/2011/06/new-book-on-how-how-left-controls-hollywood/

Primetime Propaganda

Hollywood liberals consistently deny that they "blacklist" conservatives, or that center-right political views are routinely and overtly excluded from the entertainment industry's collective voice. But in a strong riposte, Ben Shapiro's new book, "Primetime Propaganda: The True Hollywood Story of How the Left Took Over Your TV", provides extensive documentation on Hollywood's political clout, demonstrating the crippling hand the entertainment industry has in pushing Americans to readily accept its left-wing agenda as a truthful reality.



It's no secret that Hollywood discriminates against conservative actors, but Shapiro works to expose a different problem: the concerted efforts by entertainment industry executives to shape Americans into Hollywood's liberal mold. After interviewing over one hundred Hollywood kingpins, Shapiro found that not only will they readily admit that Hollywood has a strict anti-conservative agenda, but further, that many of their TV shows have underlying political messages meant to influence the way their audiences think.



While viewers might believe they can separate themselves from the subliminal messaging, Shapiro counters that idea.



You get home from work, kick off your shoes, and plop down in front of the TV, hoping simply to chill out. Instead, you get unmitigated liberalism pouring out of your TV. But you continue to watch because it's great. It's fun, thrilling, dramatic, or hilarious. We think it has no impact on us.



But it does. Television made Barack Obama. Television it supported bigger and bigger government, from Welfare to health care; pushed abortion-on-demand and the radical gay agenda into the mainstream; it stumped against war and for meaningless buzzwords like diversity and dangerous buzzwords like multiculturalism. Television has done more to change the politics of our nation than simple politics has.



Television has manipulated us. And those who create television have done it purposefully, and elegantly. They have weeded out conservatives in the industry wholesale. They have worked hand-in-glove with liberals in government to forward the leftist agenda. They have turned pure entertainment into a vehicle for propaganda.



Shapiro prodded his way into Hollywood and found many executives who willingly admitted to this bias. One of his interviews was with Hallmark Channel VP Barbara Fisher, who agreed with Shapiro's hypothetical that an actor wearing a McCain t-shirt would elicit a much different response than an actor wearing an Obama t-shirt (her statment comes at the 1:20 mark).


I took a look at that book. It's published by a small POD party owned and run by the Tea Party. So in all honesty, I wouldn't take any of it as being more than a biased work of fiction.



The author has also been criticized for making wild accusations without having the sources to back them up.

Romero

QuoteSenate sources told Breitbart News exclusively that they have been informed that one of the reasons that President Barack Obama's nominee for Secretary of Defense, Chuck Hagel, has not turned over requested documents on his sources of foreign funding is that one of the names listed is a group purportedly called 'Friends of Hamas.'



If true, that would be staggering information. But, of course, the story rapidly proved not to be true. There is no such group as "Friends of Hamas" operating in the United States.



The story reported by Breitbart.com had originated as a joke by Dan Friedman, a reporter for the New York Daily News. Somehow Friedman's joke made its way to the ears of the staff at Breitbart.com, which pounced as if it had discovered the scoop of the century.



That was week 1. In week 2, the story deflated as fast as it spread, collapsing from hoax into joke. "Friends of Hamas" now has become an internal media meme for an outlandish accusation hurled by reckless and irresponsible people.



The author of the original Feb. 7 story, Ben Shapiro, continues to insist that his report was accurate. All he'd written, he said, was that "sources' had told him about Friends of Hamas. Okay, maybe it was only one single "source." Still — it had told him so! And he'd posted what that source had said. What else was he supposed to do? Check?



http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2013/02/23/david-frum-conservatives-dont-need-enemies-they-have-each-other/">//http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2013/02/23/david-frum-conservatives-dont-need-enemies-they-have-each-other/

Anonymous

QuoteClint Eastwood told Fox News Channel's Sean Hannity today that conservatives in Hollywood are afraid to reveal their political beliefs. "There is a group of people in Hollywood that are conservative, but by the nature of the word itself, they're just reticent to speak out. And they're reticent because they feel that they'll maybe lose work, or they'll be chastised in some way for having political views," he said.

http://deadline.com/2012/11/clint-eastwood-tells-fox-news-about-plight-of-hollywood-conservatives-364366/">http://deadline.com/2012/11/clint-eastw ... es-364366/">http://deadline.com/2012/11/clint-eastwood-tells-fox-news-about-plight-of-hollywood-conservatives-364366/

I guess Eastwood is lying too? :roll:

Romero

Quote from: "Shen Li"
QuoteClint Eastwood told Fox News Channel's Sean Hannity today that conservatives in Hollywood are afraid to reveal their political beliefs. "There is a group of people in Hollywood that are conservative, but by the nature of the word itself, they're just reticent to speak out. And they're reticent because they feel that they'll maybe lose work, or they'll be chastised in some way for having political views," he said.

http://deadline.com/2012/11/clint-eastwood-tells-fox-news-about-plight-of-hollywood-conservatives-364366/">http://deadline.com/2012/11/clint-eastw ... es-364366/">http://deadline.com/2012/11/clint-eastwood-tells-fox-news-about-plight-of-hollywood-conservatives-364366/

I guess Eastwood is lying too? :roll:

At least he wasn't talking to a chair.



I dunno. I'm only hearing accusations but I'm not seeing any proof. I'm not going to believe something just because it's claimed. I certainly don't believe everything liberal celebrities say.



All I know is, there are plenty of successful right-wing celebrities. It is strange that the only people making these claims are successful right-wingers.


Anonymous

I don't want my children to have actors or pop stars as role models..



I don't really care about the politics in Hollywood, but this is how my husband and I feel.

Romero

Quote from: "Shen Li"

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Ethnic cleansing? Ethnic cleansing?? Geeez...



I checked out the two discussing with Ben Shapiro. Again - long and extensive careers, nominated for Emmys and Oscars... I don't quite see how having successful careers in Hollywood is being "blacklisted".



Sounds like playing victim to me. Every single one of these people who "dare not speak out" are indeed speaking out and saying whatever they want to say. Every single one of them claiming "destroyed careers" are indeed continually successful and wealthy.



Anyone starting out in Hollywood could only dream of having it so bad.