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Ontario Teacher's Union holds white privilege workshop

Started by Gary Oak, October 03, 2014, 03:00:03 PM

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Big Wave Dave

What the hell is white privilege? Why did I not get any of these special privileges in Canada?

RW

Beware of Gaslighters!

Anonymous

Quote from: "Real Woman"No one will take me on :(

I would RW, but I do not disagree with your position here.

RW

Anyway, this "white privilege" shit is just another example of misguided PC bullshit and Romero, fuck you for supporting it even if its in your own twisted little way.  If this was any other *insert colour/race/gender/religion here* privilege, your tune would be a lot different.  I am not going to apologize for being white and I'm not going to put up with these bullshit labels because people act like dicks towards other races, etc.  It's all bullshit.  I wouldn't support it on the flip - I won't support it on the white side either.  Maybe Ro, you can explain why it's okay to chuck this kind of socio bullshit onto whities.
Beware of Gaslighters!

Anonymous

Quote from: "Real Woman"Anyway, this "white privilege" shit is just another example of misguided PC bullshit and Romero, fuck you for supporting it even if its in your own twisted little way.  If this was any other *insert colour/race/gender/religion here* privilege, your tune would be a lot different.  I am not going to apologize for being white and I'm not going to put up with these bullshit labels because people act like dicks towards other races, etc.  It's all bullshit.  I wouldn't support it on the flip - I won't support it on the white side either.  Maybe Ro, you can explain why it's okay to chuck this kind of socio bullshit onto whities.

Excuse me young lady, have you read what I have written here? I think it's pure fucking evil demonizing kids based on their skin colour. I also said, I feel bad for people like urself and Renee that have young white kiddies. I would never want to hear about either of you having your children subjected to this sick emotional abuse. There is no way in hell anyone's kids should be made to feel guilty because of their race. No way in fucking hell!!

Anonymous

Quote from: "Gary Oak"TORONTO - The Elementary Teachers' Federation of Ontario (ETFO) is offering their members a workshop on "white privilege."



That's right. It doesn't question whether white privilege exists.



That's a given. No debate about whether all white people have special status. They just do.



And the union representing more than 76,000 teachers is teaching its membership how to deal with it.



White privilege exists, therefore ETFO will have a workshop on it.



Frankly, as a white person who's struggled all my life to become privileged, I really wish I knew what white privilege is, because I'd like a heaping helping.



If I'd had a chunk of white privilege, I wouldn't have had to bust my butt every day working to make a living. I could be eating bonbons on a yacht in the Mediterranean.



A note on the ETFO website says the union is looking for people to put on the workshops.



The "ideal presenter" will have "demonstrated commitment and understanding of white privilege and systemic issues."



Interested in the job? Then you should submit a cover letter that outlines "your understanding of white privilege."



Well, here's my understanding of white privilege.



It doesn't exist.



This is a racist notion put forward by ETFO and it is as dangerous as it is corrosive.



I don't know what "systemic issues" they're talking about, but it's presupposing a whole bunch of false assumptions.



By their very nature and label, these workshops are aimed at creating resentment of one race by all others.



What on earth is a union doing giving workshops on something that's so alien to Canadian society?



The purpose is clearly to indoctrinate teachers into believing it exists.



The next step is for them to brainwash the children in their classrooms.



Do you really want that? Should white parents allow their children to be guilted by their teachers into believing they're privileged because they're white?



This has no place in our society.



We don't have a problem with "white privilege."



We have a society built on successive waves of immigration. We have no deep-rooted aristocracy that inherits wealth.



Just living in this great country that rewards hard work, ingenuity and initiative is a privilege — no matter what your colour.



Most people who consider themselves "privileged," do so because either they, their parents or their grandparents made incredible sacrifices to give them the way of life they enjoy.



A teacher forwarded the information on the workshops to the Toronto Sun. His question was why the union is putting on toxic workshops like this when they should be dealing with education issues.



The teacher, who didn't want to be identified, says his union should be fighting for more up-to-date textbooks and better classroom materials. The ones he's working with now are old, decrepit and inadequate.



Shouldn't teachers be taking workshops that refresh their teaching skills in subjects such as math, French, English and geography?



ETFO turned down my request for a comment Thursday.



"The decision is that at this point in time we do not wish to comment on that," said spokesman Jennifer Drope, wishing me "good luck with your story."



Well, thank you for that.



Other topics for workshops include "Islamophobia" and "homophobia."



Hmm. Wonder if they've checked what Islam's view on homosexuality is.



"Dated resources and teachers spending their own money on supplementing the elementary school system in Ontario impacts teachers more than 'Islamophobia' or 'white privilege,'" said the teacher, by e-mail. I suspect most teachers agree.



Their union should stick to doing what their members pay dues for — representing them at the bargaining table, supporting them in the classroom and helping them in disputes with school boards.



Stirring up hatred, resentment and division in a society that does its best to promote tolerance, equity and understanding is stunning in its stupidity.

 ac_wot

RW

Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Real Woman"Anyway, this "white privilege" shit is just another example of misguided PC bullshit and Romero, fuck you for supporting it even if its in your own twisted little way.  If this was any other *insert colour/race/gender/religion here* privilege, your tune would be a lot different.  I am not going to apologize for being white and I'm not going to put up with these bullshit labels because people act like dicks towards other races, etc.  It's all bullshit.  I wouldn't support it on the flip - I won't support it on the white side either.  Maybe Ro, you can explain why it's okay to chuck this kind of socio bullshit onto whities.

Excuse me young lady, have you read what I have written here? I think it's pure fucking evil demonizing kids based on their skin colour. I also said, I feel bad for people like urself and Renee that have young white kiddies. I would never want to hear about either of you having your children subjected to this sick emotional abuse. There is no way in hell anyone's kids should be made to feel guilty because of their race. No way in fucking hell!!

I believe it's for dealing with issues within the membership.
Beware of Gaslighters!

Anonymous

Quote from: "Real Woman"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Real Woman"Anyway, this "white privilege" shit is just another example of misguided PC bullshit and Romero, fuck you for supporting it even if its in your own twisted little way.  If this was any other *insert colour/race/gender/religion here* privilege, your tune would be a lot different.  I am not going to apologize for being white and I'm not going to put up with these bullshit labels because people act like dicks towards other races, etc.  It's all bullshit.  I wouldn't support it on the flip - I won't support it on the white side either.  Maybe Ro, you can explain why it's okay to chuck this kind of socio bullshit onto whities.

Excuse me young lady, have you read what I have written here? I think it's pure fucking evil demonizing kids based on their skin colour. I also said, I feel bad for people like urself and Renee that have young white kiddies. I would never want to hear about either of you having your children subjected to this sick emotional abuse. There is no way in hell anyone's kids should be made to feel guilty because of their race. No way in fucking hell!!

I believe it's for dealing with issues within the membership.

They won't be bringing this up in front of their students?

Obvious Li

Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Gary Oak"TORONTO - The Elementary Teachers' Federation of Ontario (ETFO) is offering their members a workshop on "white privilege."



That's right. It doesn't question whether white privilege exists.



That's a given. No debate about whether all white people have special status. They just do.



And the union representing more than 76,000 teachers is teaching its membership how to deal with it.



White privilege exists, therefore ETFO will have a workshop on it.



Frankly, as a white person who's struggled all my life to become privileged, I really wish I knew what white privilege is, because I'd like a heaping helping.



If I'd had a chunk of white privilege, I wouldn't have had to bust my butt every day working to make a living. I could be eating bonbons on a yacht in the Mediterranean.



A note on the ETFO website says the union is looking for people to put on the workshops.



The "ideal presenter" will have "demonstrated commitment and understanding of white privilege and systemic issues."



Interested in the job? Then you should submit a cover letter that outlines "your understanding of white privilege."



Well, here's my understanding of white privilege.



It doesn't exist.



This is a racist notion put forward by ETFO and it is as dangerous as it is corrosive.



I don't know what "systemic issues" they're talking about, but it's presupposing a whole bunch of false assumptions.



By their very nature and label, these workshops are aimed at creating resentment of one race by all others.



What on earth is a union doing giving workshops on something that's so alien to Canadian society?



The purpose is clearly to indoctrinate teachers into believing it exists.



The next step is for them to brainwash the children in their classrooms.



Do you really want that? Should white parents allow their children to be guilted by their teachers into believing they're privileged because they're white?



This has no place in our society.



We don't have a problem with "white privilege."



We have a society built on successive waves of immigration. We have no deep-rooted aristocracy that inherits wealth.



Just living in this great country that rewards hard work, ingenuity and initiative is a privilege — no matter what your colour.



Most people who consider themselves "privileged," do so because either they, their parents or their grandparents made incredible sacrifices to give them the way of life they enjoy.



A teacher forwarded the information on the workshops to the Toronto Sun. His question was why the union is putting on toxic workshops like this when they should be dealing with education issues.



The teacher, who didn't want to be identified, says his union should be fighting for more up-to-date textbooks and better classroom materials. The ones he's working with now are old, decrepit and inadequate.



Shouldn't teachers be taking workshops that refresh their teaching skills in subjects such as math, French, English and geography?



ETFO turned down my request for a comment Thursday.



"The decision is that at this point in time we do not wish to comment on that," said spokesman Jennifer Drope, wishing me "good luck with your story."



Well, thank you for that.



Other topics for workshops include "Islamophobia" and "homophobia."



Hmm. Wonder if they've checked what Islam's view on homosexuality is.



"Dated resources and teachers spending their own money on supplementing the elementary school system in Ontario impacts teachers more than 'Islamophobia' or 'white privilege,'" said the teacher, by e-mail. I suspect most teachers agree.



Their union should stick to doing what their members pay dues for — representing them at the bargaining table, supporting them in the classroom and helping them in disputes with school boards.



Stirring up hatred, resentment and division in a society that does its best to promote tolerance, equity and understanding is stunning in its stupidity.

 ac_wot




typical teachers union bullshit...these are some REAL stupid motherfuckers..... ac_lmfao

Anonymous

Quote from: "Gary Oak"TORONTO - The Elementary Teachers' Federation of Ontario (ETFO) is offering their members a workshop on "white privilege."



That's right. It doesn't question whether white privilege exists.



That's a given. No debate about whether all white people have special status. They just do.



And the union representing more than 76,000 teachers is teaching its membership how to deal with it.



White privilege exists, therefore ETFO will have a workshop on it.



Frankly, as a white person who's struggled all my life to become privileged, I really wish I knew what white privilege is, because I'd like a heaping helping.



If I'd had a chunk of white privilege, I wouldn't have had to bust my butt every day working to make a living. I could be eating bonbons on a yacht in the Mediterranean.



A note on the ETFO website says the union is looking for people to put on the workshops.



The "ideal presenter" will have "demonstrated commitment and understanding of white privilege and systemic issues."



Interested in the job? Then you should submit a cover letter that outlines "your understanding of white privilege."



Well, here's my understanding of white privilege.



It doesn't exist.



This is a racist notion put forward by ETFO and it is as dangerous as it is corrosive.



I don't know what "systemic issues" they're talking about, but it's presupposing a whole bunch of false assumptions.



By their very nature and label, these workshops are aimed at creating resentment of one race by all others.



What on earth is a union doing giving workshops on something that's so alien to Canadian society?



The purpose is clearly to indoctrinate teachers into believing it exists.



The next step is for them to brainwash the children in their classrooms.



Do you really want that? Should white parents allow their children to be guilted by their teachers into believing they're privileged because they're white?



This has no place in our society.



We don't have a problem with "white privilege."



We have a society built on successive waves of immigration. We have no deep-rooted aristocracy that inherits wealth.



Just living in this great country that rewards hard work, ingenuity and initiative is a privilege — no matter what your colour.



Most people who consider themselves "privileged," do so because either they, their parents or their grandparents made incredible sacrifices to give them the way of life they enjoy.



A teacher forwarded the information on the workshops to the Toronto Sun. His question was why the union is putting on toxic workshops like this when they should be dealing with education issues.



The teacher, who didn't want to be identified, says his union should be fighting for more up-to-date textbooks and better classroom materials. The ones he's working with now are old, decrepit and inadequate.



Shouldn't teachers be taking workshops that refresh their teaching skills in subjects such as math, French, English and geography?



ETFO turned down my request for a comment Thursday.



"The decision is that at this point in time we do not wish to comment on that," said spokesman Jennifer Drope, wishing me "good luck with your story."



Well, thank you for that.



Other topics for workshops include "Islamophobia" and "homophobia."



Hmm. Wonder if they've checked what Islam's view on homosexuality is.



"Dated resources and teachers spending their own money on supplementing the elementary school system in Ontario impacts teachers more than 'Islamophobia' or 'white privilege,'" said the teacher, by e-mail. I suspect most teachers agree.



Their union should stick to doing what their members pay dues for — representing them at the bargaining table, supporting them in the classroom and helping them in disputes with school boards.



Stirring up hatred, resentment and division in a society that does its best to promote tolerance, equity and understanding is stunning in its stupidity.

Gary Oak suddenly cares about racism when he feels whites are the ones the who are getting the short end of the stick.  acc_devil

Romero

Quote from: "seoulbro"Gary Oak suddenly cares about racism when he feels whites are the ones the who are getting the short end of the stick.  acc_devil

Racists will find any excuse for their racism. Even if they have to make it up.



"A Hong Kong police sergeant recently told me..."

Romero

Quote from: "Shen Li"I can't believe an old white guy is actually lecturing me about "white privilege. You've got some fucking nerve!!



Clearly if you are using police misconduct as your guide that tells me you are as ignorant of minority issues as Gary Oak. I agreed there is white privilege, but to me it has nothing to do with policing. You could ask another minority and they might have a different position entirely. There is NO way(that we can all agree on) to prove let alone define it. Are women or men more likely to be "profiled" by police? Does that mean women have an unfair position in Canadian society and there is women's privilege? If so, will Ontario elementary teachers make little girls feel like shit with a workshop?



I absolutely love kiddies...all of em and I do NOT give a fuck what race they are. Demonizing one group of kids because of their race is child abuse plain and simple. SHAME!!!

Whoa, what the? This isn't about demonizing kids or anyone.



You agree there's white privilege. Why not discuss it?



"I can't believe an old white guy is actually lecturing me about "white privilege. You've got some fucking nerve!!"



That's racist. I demand an apology.

Romero

Quote from: "Real Woman"Anyway, this "white privilege" shit is just another example of misguided PC bullshit and Romero, fuck you for supporting it even if its in your own twisted little way.  If this was any other *insert colour/race/gender/religion here* privilege, your tune would be a lot different.  I am not going to apologize for being white and I'm not going to put up with these bullshit labels because people act like dicks towards other races, etc.  It's all bullshit.  I wouldn't support it on the flip - I won't support it on the white side either.  Maybe Ro, you can explain why it's okay to chuck this kind of socio bullshit onto whities.

There's nothing wrong with discussing it. Again, these are professional educators. They're not just making it up.



No one's asking you to apologize for anything. Strange that this upsets you so much.

RW

It upsets me because I think we aren't tackling the issues that are underneath all this garbage but rather fumbling in a racial mire that no one seems to understand.
Beware of Gaslighters!

Romero

Who says we aren't tackling issues that are underneath? We can discuss different aspects.