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Inept Manitoba NDP Government Imploding

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The dipper way; sluggish growth, deficit spending and taking more money out of people's pockets.
QuoteWINNIPEG – It wasn't apparent at the time, but Manitoba Premier Greg Selinger started down the path to the internal NDP revolt that now threatens his political future on Easter Weekend in March 2013.



Selinger and then-finance minister Stan Struthers called up cabinet colleagues and told them the government was going to increase the provincial sales tax to eight per cent from seven in a budget that would be presented in the legislature in two weeks, according to a party source.



Selinger had specifically denied plans to raise the sales tax in the 2011 election, but with an ongoing deficit, slower-then-expected economic growth and new money needed to match a federal infrastructure program, the tax hike was suddenly front and centre.



At a cabinet meeting two days later, other revenue options were discussed, but the sales tax hike was pushed as almost a fait accompli, said the party source who would only speak to The Canadian Press on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly.



"On every other revenue proposal, ministers had an opportunity to debate it. But (the sales tax hike) was going to happen."



The sales tax increase, and the NDP government's move to sidestep a referendum that was required under law on any major tax hike, caused the government to plummet in opinion polls. But in the months that followed, the NDP remained a tight unit, at least publicly.



That all changed two weeks ago when Struthers, who had been shuffled to the Municipal Government portfolio, and four other senior cabinet ministers broke ranks and publicly urged Selinger to consider resigning. They accused him of not listening to their concerns and of failing to rebuild public trust in the 18 months following the tax hike.



Struthers and the other rebel ministers — Erin Selby in Health, Theresa Oswald in Jobs and the Economy, Jennifer Howard in Finance and Andrew Swan in Justice — later resigned from cabinet, but remain in the NDP caucus and say they plan to run for re-election in 2016.



Selinger has also vowed to remain in place and run for re-election at the helm of the party, but a political observer says the odds are long.



"I think it's a very, very remote chance that he can survive," said Paul Thomas, political science professor emeritus at the University of Manitoba.



"All this public infighting is a political disaster for the party that sees itself as the natural governing party. Something has to be done ... and that something I think has to be a leadership review."



Some of the rebel ministers, most notably Struthers, have in recent days tried to distance themselves from the sales tax increase, saying it was imposed by Selinger. But the source said the cabinet meeting saw only some concerns expressed, not outright opposition.



"If (Struthers) was opposed to it, I never saw it.



"Could cabinet have stopped it? If there was a big protest, maybe. But there wasn't."



Howard, who was government house leader at the time, expressed worry about getting the tax bill through the legislature in the face of heated opposition that the Tories would put up, the source said.



Howard rejected interview requests on the subject. Struthers did not return messages seeking comment.



In the months that followed, Struthers, Howard and Oswald defended the tax hike at every turn, saying it was needed to protect front-line services and fund infrastructure projects. The government went on the offensive, saying the Opposition Tories' alternative to a tax hike would be deep spending cuts.



Oswald became a key promoter of the tax hike, touting it as a way create jobs in the construction industry while also fixing worn roads and bridges.



Howard openly praised Selinger's leadership last February. She told reporters that Selinger listened to his caucus and was not heavy-handed — a very different message than earlier this month when she accused Selinger of ignoring cabinet advice and focusing mostly on his own political survival.



Through the last 18 months, the government continued to languish in opinion polls, even after the government lauded its infrastructure agenda with a flurry of signs touting "Steady Growth, Good Jobs" at construction sites across the province.



Things came to a head at a caucus retreat in Brandon in September, the source said. Some caucus members had already quietly told Selinger he should step down to revive party fortunes.



He wouldn't budge and the dispute became open.



"Stan (Struthers) said 'I told you one-on-one what I think and now I need to say it here.'"



Others also called on Selinger to resign gracefully. Some were more direct than others. Selinger "sat there and listened. He was very respectful," but gave no indication he would consider quitting, the source said.



With a majority in the legislature — 35 of the 57 seats — the NDP government is unlikely to fall. The rebel ministers have said they continue to be New Democrats and will not vote with the opposition parties.



But Selinger's future is uncertain.



For the first time in its 15 years in power, the NDP caucus is openly divided. About half of the caucus supported Selinger at the September meeting, the source said, but the numbers may have changed since then.



The government will deliver a throne speech and have the legislature sit for two weeks starting Nov. 20. Selinger could face a leadership review at the NDP's annual convention in March or earlier if the party's council calls a special convention when it meets next month.



Selinger's office rejected interview requests on Thursday and Friday.



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Anonymous

Alberta and Saskatchewan are beneficiaries of Manitoba's incompetent dipper government. We get their talented economic refugees.
QuoteWhat does NDP infighting at the provincial legislature mean for taxpayers? Here are some thoughts:



Bad News: People pay taxes in exchange for services from the government. Politicians should always be focused on delivering the best services they can for the public. But right now that's not happening.



While the government should be focused on figuring out ways to address abysmal results we've heard about recently in health care, education and public safety (to name a few), infighting is getting in the way.



The government should also be looking at ways to address the deficit, getting our high tax rates down to competitive levels and stopping the continued flow of young people out of the province. Not to mention this ginormous problem – click here.



Again, infighting is getting in the way from those problems receiving 100% of the government's focus.



Good News: Leading up to elections, governing parties often sit around and dream up ways to spend taxpayer dollars in an attempt to try and buy votes. But because the NDP is so busy fighting amongst themselves right now, they're spending less time on the former.



That's great news, as taxpayers simply can't afford more wasteful spending announcements. The government is currently running a $437 million deficit and our province's debt is close to -$32 billion.



Infighting also means less time for the government to dream up, and pass, laws and policies that restrict our freedom and interfere with progress.



Conclusion: They say that most divorces occur over financial problems. Well, the divorce involving Manitoba's NDP seems to be no different.



It was uncontrollable spending that led to a sales tax hike – a move that move went over like a lead balloon. As a result, the NDP's support dropped like a rock and now the knives are out, they're all fighting amongst themselves.



For over a decade, the government spent and spent instead of making tough choices like reform services in order to achieve better results (rather than throwing more money at problems) and saying 'no' to luxury projects.



We're now at a point where there's no more money to throw at problems that arise and more and more people are looking at their tax bill and realizing they're getting a raw deal. In short, the one trick pony has run out of tricks.



Too bad it took 15 years, a pile of debt, thousands of departed Manitobans and all kinds of other problems for us to get there. But at least we're there. Hopefully.

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