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Mark Carney

Started by Herman, January 07, 2025, 10:40:39 PM

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DKG

Carney's carbon tax 2.0 is worse for Canadians than Trudeau's. And just like it'sm predecessor it will not move the climate needle one millimetre. It is pure virtue signalling from people like Carney who can afford it.

Carney's carbon tax plan is a dumpster fire

It couldn't have been easy for Liberal leadership frontrunner Mark Carney to dream up a more unaffordable carbon tax proposal than Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's carbon tax.

Yet somehow, Carney managed to do exactly that.
Yes, Carney says he would "immediately remove the consumer carbon tax."
But in the fine print, Carney said he plans to replace it with a system that could increase the cost of virtually everything for Canadian taxpayers.
Instead of carbon tax rebates that give some of the carbon-taxed money back to some Canadians, Carney plans to hand out "incentives" to "reward" Canadians when they make environmentally friendly purchases approved by the government.
Earth to Carney: Canadians don't want discounts on solar-powered blenders. Trudeau already tried half-measures like the temporary furnace oil carve-out and it backfired. Canadians want the carbon tax gone.
Carney's proposal would force the costs of a carbon tax on Canadians, but take away rebate cheques that cover at least some of the cost.

How would Carney's plan cost Canadians?
By "integrating a new consumer carbon credit market into the industrial pricing system." Carney also said he would "improve and tighten" the industrial carbon tax. That would raise the carbon tax cost to businesses and those businesses would pass costs onto consumers.
When Carney imposes carbon taxes on refineries, he'll make gas more expensive.
When Carney imposes carbon taxes on utility providers, he'll make home heating more expensive.
When Carney imposes carbon taxes on fertilizer plants, he'll increase costs for farmers and make food more expensive.
And when Carney imposes a carbon tax on imports into Canada through carbon tax tariffs, he'll raise the cost of everything Canadians buy from abroad.

That's a recipe for inflation, protectionism, tariff retaliation and scarcity.
Why could Carney's proposal be even more expensive than Trudeau's plan?
This year, Trudeau's carbon tax will cost the average Ontario household $399, even after the rebates. That's according to the parliamentary budget officer.
But take away rebate cheques and the cost of the carbon tax skyrockets to $1,383 for the average household.
Carney isn't planning to cut the carbon tax, but rather move the cost from a direct cost to an indirect one.
Because businesses will just pass the cost of Carney's new scheme onto households through higher costs, Canadians have a simple question for Carney: How much will your hidden carbon tax cost us?

Carney might say not to worry. Instead of rebates amounting to close to $1,000 a year for the typical household, he plans to give Canadians "incentives" to encourage us to buy fancy green appliances.
Great. Instead of cash to help cover some of the cost of the carbon tax, Carney wants to give you rewards to buy things you don't want.
A Leger poll shows that among Canadians who have decided on the issue, 76% want the next Liberal leader to oppose the carbon tax.
Instead, Carney is proposing to impose a carbon tax on Canadians that is worse than Trudeau's.

Clearly, Carney hasn't been out there talking to average Canadians.
Canadians are struggling — 50% of Canadians say they're $200 away from not being able to pay their bills.
Scrapping the carbon tax could make a huge difference for millions of Canadians who find themselves living on the edge of financial insolvency.
Canadians want the carbon tax gone. They don't want it kind of gone. They don't want it as a wolf dressed up in sheep's clothing. They want it gone.
Carney needs to get out and talk to real Canadians. And he needs to go back to the drawing board and come up with a plan to scrap the carbon tax entirely.
Jay Goldberg is the Ontario director and Franco Terrazzano is the federal director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/opinion-carneys-carbon-tax-plan-is-a-dumpster-fire

Herman


JOE

#48
Quote from: Herman on January 07, 2025, 10:40:39 PMA globalist asshole with the working class in his targets.

Before Mark Carney announces his run for Prime Minister, would he like to explain to Canadians what he was doing here with Ghislaine Maxwell?


If Carney loses but manages to prevent the obliteration of the Liberal party with a respectable showing or slight loss thatll still be a victory imho

Trump actually did the Liberal Party a favor by forcing Trudeau & Freeland to step down. Ill give Trump at least that much credit. Those 2 were so incompetent. It was so bad that the Libs were polling 4th place even behind the Bloc

A respectable loss isnt necessarilly a bad thing if it forces the Liberals back to the center

Herman


Brent

The media has given the Liberals a bump in the polls by portraying them the defenders of Canada against Trump's tariffs even though giving Trump what he wants at the border would not only keep tariffs off the table, they are for our own benefit.

But, the Liberals are also admitting everything they have done from mass immigration to the carbon tax to blocking energy infrastructure was wrong. They are saying we were wrong about everything so reelect us. If anybody buys this and votes for Carney they are  :crazy:

Herman

Mark Carney and Chrystia Freeland have backed away from a carbon tax, a capital gains tax, the size of government, their policies at the border and – will wonders never cease – they now believe in pipelines East and West across Canada, even in Quebec.

Does anyone believe Carney and Freeland? If you do, you are dumber than a bag of rocks.

Brent

Quote from: Brent on February 09, 2025, 03:38:45 PMThe media has given the Liberals a bump in the polls by portraying them the defenders of Canada against Trump's tariffs even though giving Trump what he wants at the border would not only keep tariffs off the table, they are for our own benefit.

But, the Liberals are also admitting everything they have done from mass immigration to the carbon tax to blocking energy infrastructure was wrong. They are saying we were wrong about everything so reelect us. If anybody buys this and votes for Carney they are  :crazy:
There is no hope for the working class in Canada.

Herman


Herman


Shen Li

I don't know about the polls back in Canada. A Leger one from a week ago had the Liberals tied with the Tories in a hypotehtical match-up. That is if Mark Carney is the leader.

On February 11, an Abacus poll had the Tories up by 19 ppoints over the Liberals. No  hypothetical question was asked about who the leader of the Liberals.

Talk about Carney's surge could be like Harris. The US media built her up, pollsters had their thumbs on the scale and in the end she lost. Mark Carney could be Canada's Kamala Harris.

DKG

Quote from: Shen Li on February 13, 2025, 11:14:44 PMTalk about Carney's surge could be like Harris. The US media built her up, pollsters had their thumbs on the scale and in the end she lost. Mark Carney could be Canada's Kamala Harris.
I haven't heard of Carney brigning "joy" to the campaign. But, other than appearing on the Daily Show, Mr Carney is avoiding scrutiny like Harris did.

Lokmar

Hopefully, Cucknadians dont vote in some dumb ass who's gonna lock horns with Trump because thats gonna be bad for everyone!

JOE

Carney said he intends to reverse Trudeau's & Freeland's Capital gains tax:


Its a good thing both Trudeau & Freeland were sacked

Like or hate him at least Carney has some common sense
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Herman

That prick Carney is pure evil.