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A Vote for Mark Conman is a Vote For Canada Becoming the Fifty First State

Started by Herman, March 19, 2025, 08:07:56 PM

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If government revenue obtained from Albertans remained the same but went directly to the Alberta Government alone, the revenue of that government between 2014 to 2024 would have been:

• 2014: $70.2 billion
• 2015: $71.5 billion
• 2016: $66.95 billion
• 2017: $69.5 billion
• 2018: $70.2 billion
• 2019: $75 billion
• 2020: $68 billion
• 2021: $72.2 billion
• 2022: $104.2 billion
• 2023: $107.1 billion
• 2024: $113.9 billion

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Quote from: DKG on May 20, 2025, 10:01:28 AMIt certainly would be fair. But the Supreme Court of Canada ruled Trudeau's draconian measures under the Emergencies Act was illegal.
And? He got away with it, didn't he? Not even a slap on the wrist, certainly no prison sentence for engaging in illegal activities.

Freeze the chug's bank accounts. Do it now. Make the bastards scream like their dickhead counterparts south of the border.

Thiel

Quote from: . on May 21, 2025, 11:59:53 PMAnd? He got away with it, didn't he? Not even a slap on the wrist, certainly no prison sentence for engaging in illegal activities.

Freeze the chug's bank accounts. Do it now. Make the bastards scream like their dickhead counterparts south of the border.
Mr Trudeau never faced consequences for trying to get his Justice Minister to break the law. There were no consequences when he was found guilty  twice of ethics violations.
gay, conservative and proud

Herman

Lawyer Jeff Rath posted this on X today...a letter to Elections Alberta urging them to prepare for a citizens initiative referendum.         



Brent

Support for separation at least in Alberta keeps rising.

From A Leger survey.

"To what extent would you support or oppose the province of Alberta becoming a country independent of Canada?" 47% were in favour compared to 48% opposed, with those in support higher than in many previous polls.

Second, while 62% of Canadians nationally are opposed to Alberta separating compared to 26% in favour, 55% said they "understand why Alberta might want to become an independent country" compared to 37% who said they didn't understand.

The survey of 1,537 Canadian adults taken from May 16-18 found more people in every province, among both men and women and in every age group, saying they understood why Alberta might want to become an independent country, than those who said they didn't understand.

These numbers refute the erroneous perception that support for separation is a view held by only a small minority in Alberta and that Canadians are unsympathetic to what's driving it.

It also indicates that mocking Alberta Premier Danielle Smith for introducing a bill lowering the bar for citizens seeking to trigger province-wide referendums on issues such as separation, won't make the controversy disappear.


Herman

𝐖𝐡𝐲 𝐍𝐨 𝐎𝐧𝐞 𝐂𝐚𝐧 𝐕𝐞𝐭𝐨 𝐚𝐧 𝐀𝐥𝐛𝐞𝐫𝐭𝐚 𝐑𝐞𝐟𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐝𝐮𝐦 — 𝐍𝐨𝐭 𝐎𝐭𝐭𝐚𝐰𝐚, 𝐅𝐢𝐫𝐬𝐭 𝐍𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬, 𝐑𝐞𝐥𝐢𝐠𝐢𝐨𝐮𝐬 𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐮𝐩𝐬, 𝐏𝐫𝐨𝐭𝐞𝐬𝐭𝐨𝐫𝐬, 𝐨𝐫 𝐂𝐨𝐮𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐫-𝐏𝐫𝐨𝐭𝐞𝐬𝐭𝐨𝐫𝐬
There's a lot of noise about who could "veto" a referendum in Alberta. Here's the truth, plain and simple:
𝐍𝐨 𝐨𝐧𝐞 𝐡𝐚𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐥𝐞𝐠𝐚𝐥 𝐨𝐫 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐭𝐮𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐚𝐥 𝐩𝐨𝐰𝐞𝐫 𝐭𝐨 𝐯𝐞𝐭𝐨 𝐚 𝐫𝐞𝐟𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐝𝐮𝐦 𝐡𝐞𝐥𝐝 𝐛𝐲 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐩𝐫𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐧𝐜𝐞 𝐨𝐟 𝐀𝐥𝐛𝐞𝐫𝐭𝐚.
That includes, but not limited to:
- The 𝐟𝐞𝐝𝐞𝐫𝐚𝐥 𝐠𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐧𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭 (𝐎𝐭𝐭𝐚𝐰𝐚)
- First Nations 𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐞𝐟𝐬 𝐨𝐫 𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐮𝐧𝐢𝐭𝐢𝐞𝐬
- 𝐑𝐞𝐥𝐢𝐠𝐢𝐨𝐮𝐬 𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐚𝐧𝐢𝐳𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬
- 𝐏𝐫𝐨𝐭𝐞𝐬𝐭 𝐠𝐫𝐨𝐮𝐩𝐬 𝐨𝐫 𝐜𝐨𝐮𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐫-𝐩𝐫𝐨𝐭𝐞𝐬𝐭 𝐠𝐫𝐨𝐮𝐩𝐬
- 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐮𝐫𝐭𝐬
- 𝐎𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐩𝐫𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐧𝐜𝐞𝐬 𝐨𝐫 𝐩𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐭𝐢𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐧𝐬
𝐇𝐞𝐫𝐞'𝐬 𝐖𝐡𝐲:
𝟏. 𝐀𝐥𝐛𝐞𝐫𝐭𝐚 𝐡𝐚𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐫𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐭 𝐭𝐨 𝐡𝐨𝐥𝐝 𝐫𝐞𝐟𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐝𝐮𝐦𝐬
The Canadian Constitution allows provinces to hold referendums on matters under their jurisdiction. Alberta doesn't need anyone's permission to ask its citizens a question through a democratic vote.
𝟐. 𝐑𝐞𝐟𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐝𝐮𝐦𝐬 𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐜𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐜 𝐞𝐱𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬, 𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐥𝐚𝐰𝐬
Most provincial referendums are 𝐧𝐨𝐧-𝐛𝐢𝐧𝐝𝐢𝐧𝐠. They don't create laws — they simply reflect the will of the people. And 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐜𝐚𝐧'𝐭 𝐯𝐞𝐭𝐨 𝐩𝐮𝐛𝐥𝐢𝐜 𝐨𝐩𝐢𝐧𝐢𝐨𝐧.
𝟑. 𝐓𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐢𝐬 𝐧𝐨 𝐥𝐞𝐠𝐚𝐥 𝐭𝐨𝐨𝐥 𝐭𝐨 𝐯𝐞𝐭𝐨 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐫𝐞𝐬𝐮𝐥𝐭
No government, organization, or protest movement has the authority to legally cancel or overrule the outcome of a provincial vote. There's 𝐧𝐨 𝐦𝐞𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐢𝐬𝐦 in Canadian law that gives anyone a "veto" over the will of a province's people.
𝟒. 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐒𝐮𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐦𝐞 𝐂𝐨𝐮𝐫𝐭 𝐚𝐠𝐫𝐞𝐞𝐬
In the 1998 Reference re Secession of Quebec, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled that if a province holds a referendum with a clear question and a clear majority, then both the federal and provincial governments have a duty to negotiate. It did not say that anyone could veto the result.
𝟓. 𝐄𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐲𝐨𝐧𝐞 𝐡𝐚𝐬 𝐚 𝐯𝐨𝐢𝐜𝐞 — 𝐧𝐨 𝐨𝐧𝐞 𝐡𝐚𝐬 𝐚 𝐯𝐞𝐭𝐨
First Nations, religious groups, and protest movements 𝐚𝐛𝐬𝐨𝐥𝐮𝐭𝐞𝐥𝐲 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐫𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐭 𝐭𝐨 𝐬𝐩𝐞𝐚𝐤, 𝐯𝐨𝐭𝐞, 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐛𝐞 𝐡𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐝.. Their participation in democratic dialogue is essential. But 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐝𝐨 𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐩𝐨𝐰𝐞𝐫 𝐭𝐨 𝐛𝐥𝐨𝐜𝐤 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐦𝐚𝐣𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐭𝐲 𝐟𝐫𝐨𝐦 𝐯𝐨𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐠. The same goes for anyone organizing or attending counter-protests: you have the right to oppose — not the right to override.

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