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Funny thing is I'm halfway through season 6 of Voyager.

This forum is ineffective!

I watched the first 3 seasons back a few months ago, some greats eps.

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I watched the first 3 seasons back a few months ago, some greats eps.

It's getting better in the 2nd half although I don't think I've seen one episode that doesn't have at least one massive plot hole, continuity error or characters doing something incredibly stupid simply to advance the plot.

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It's getting better in the 2nd half although I don't think I've seen one episode that doesn't have at least one massive plot hole, continuity error or characters doing something incredibly stupid simply to advance the plot.

Yeah the writers were not the best I never thought Brannon Braga was any good and after getting DS9 where the writing was a lot better it always made Voyager look a little inferior to me at least comparatively.

Ira Steven Behr was tha GOAT.

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Yeah the writers were not the best I never thought Brannon Braga was any good and after getting DS9 where the writing was a lot better it always made Voyager look a little inferior to me at least 

Voyager is entertaining if you turn most of your brain off for 46 minutes and ignore the stupidity that tends to remove the "suspension of disbelief".

I found a good review site and it's been said many times on there that DS9 is written far better than Voyager.

https://www.jammersreviews.com/

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Voyager is entertaining if you turn most of your brain off for 46 minutes and ignore the stupidity that tends to remove the "suspension of disbelief".

I found a good review site and it's been said many times on there that DS9 is written far better than Voyager.

https://www.jammersreviews.com/

Just to be clear I do still have a lot of love for Voyager and have watched it beginning to end 5 or so times since watching it weekly upon release and I consider it the final remotely watchable Star Trek show.

The worst of the first four series's but leagues ahead of the dog shite since..

Just my 2c ofc.

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Just to be clear I do still have a lot of love for Voyager and have watched it beginning to end 5 or so times since watching it weekly upon release and I consider it the final remotely watchable Star Trek show.

The worst of the first four series's but leagues ahead of the dog shite since..

Just my 2c ofc.

I'm enjoying the last 3rd of the Voyager run, with all of the characters well known, and the steady progress towards Earth.

My biggest issue is that the Janeway character makes some truly bizarre decisions that degrades the character.

Just from the last few episodes alone:

The episode where she restores the alien memorial using limited available Voyager resources, so other innocent passing ships can be "mind raped" by the memory altering properties of the memorial that almost resulted in Neelix causing a mass massacre in the mess hall?

Taking no crew other than 3 self admittedly wacko inexperienced apathetic incompetent crew with her on an away mission? Ordering one of those crewman NOT to shoot an alien creature that just emerged from another crewmans NECK and is now shorting out the shuttle's environmental controls because "it could be friendly"?

Not shutting down the holodeck program when 2 of her crew are in real imminent danger of being burned at the stake by holographic characters because "we have feelings for the holographic characters" and in yet another loss of consistency suddenly shutting down the holodeck will cause complete data loss of the program including all the characters. Oh and holographic rifles fired at the holodeck controls will cause the safetys to shut off, thus rendering them to susceptible to real damage.. except real damage happened when the holographic rifle took out the holodeck controls while the safetys were functioning?!. ARRRGHH!

And despite Voyager getting 40,000 light years closer to home during the first 5.5 seasons they keep running into civilizations that they ran into tens of thousands of light years earlier with no explanation how they covered that same distance.

But don't get me started. Oh, too late.

I just hope I can resist slapping Janeway in the face during the next episode and damaging my laptop screen.

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I'm enjoying the last 3rd of the Voyager run, with all of the characters well known, and the steady progress towards Earth.

My biggest issue is that the Janeway character makes some truly bizarre decisions that degrades the character.

Just from the last few episodes alone:

The episode where she restores the alien memorial using limited available Voyager resources, so other innocent passing ships can be "mind raped" by the memory altering properties of the memorial that almost resulted in Neelix causing a mass massacre in the mess hall?

Taking no crew other than 3 self admittedly wacko inexperienced apathetic incompetent crew with her on an away mission? Ordering one of those crewman NOT to shoot an alient creature that just emerged from another crewmans NECK and is now shorting out the shuttle's environmental controls because "it could be friendly"?

Not shutting down the holodeck program when 2 of her crew are in real imminent danger of being burned at the stake by holographic characters because "we have feelings for the holographic characters" and in yet another loss of consistency suddenly shutting down the holodeck will cause complete data loss of the program including all the characters. Oh and holographic rifles fired at the holodeck controls will cause the safetys to shut off, thus rendering them to susceptible to real damage.. except real damage happened when the holographic rifle took out the holodeck controls while the safetys were functioning?!. ARRRGHH!

And despite Voyager getting 40,000 light years closer to home during the first 5.5 seasons they keep running into civilizations that they ran into tens of thousands of light years earlier with no explanation how they covered that same distance.

But don't get me started. Oh, too late.

I just hope I can resist slapping Janeway in the face during the next episode and damaging my laptop screen.

Genuinely had me

It's got inconsistencies throughout there's no doubt when you consider it as a whole piece of work, but it's strengths are that it has some excellent singular and 2 part episodes that usually hold little or no bearing over the overall narrative of the season or series.

One question is it your first watch/run through of the show?

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but it's strengths are that it has some excellent singular and 2 part episodes that usually hold little or no bearing over the overall narrative of the season or series.

One question is it your first watch/run through of the show?

Interesting you say that. One complaint often brought up by the reviewers on that page I linked is that there's no continuity between episodes (with a few exceptions). A new idea or technology that saves Voyager from certain total destruction right after the last commercial break and could get them home in 5 minutes is never mentioned again. New characters that join the crew are never heard from again.. every episode ends in a "reset". No matter how crippled Voyager is, no matter how close it was to complete destruction with most or all systems incapacitated as the credits roll, by the next episode it's as shiny and new as the day it rolled off the conveyer belt at the starbase it was built. Not to mention the seemingly never ending supply of replacement shuttles and photon torpedos.

This is my first time through. And if Harry "I can't get a lock" Kim fumbles with the transporter one more time at a critical moment I just might not make it.

The one problem with the review page is sometimes a thoughtless reviewer will make a reference to a future happening and it's a huge spoiler which I read before I realize what I'm reading and I'm like "Oh shit, I need to FORGET" (where's Spock when you need him)

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This is a typical review from a viewer who probably speaks for how all of us feel at one time or another while watching the show, and not only the Voyager series. This review follows an episode where dueling tractor beams played a pivotal role in advancing the plot for the duration of 2 additional commercial breaks.

"Am I the only one who gets endlessly frustrated with how ship combat always unfolds in Star Trek? Every time they try to do anything, the ship gets hit, and the exact thing they were trying to do goes offline. Sometimes several times in a row. Trying to use the tractor beam? Blam, tractor beam offline. Trying to transport someone? Blam, transporters offline. Replace with weapons, communications, warp drive, ad nauseum, and that's Star Trek in a nutshell."

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This is a typical review from a viewer who probably speaks for how all of us feel at one time or another while watching the show, and not only the Voyager series. This review follows an episode where dueling tractor beams played a pivotal role in advancing the plot for the duration of 2 additional commercial breaks.

"Am I the only one who gets endlessly frustrated with how ship combat always unfolds in Star Trek? Every time they try to do anything, the ship gets hit, and the exact thing they were trying to do goes offline. Sometimes several times in a row. Trying to use the tractor beam? Blam, tractor beam offline. Trying to transport someone? Blam, transporters offline. Replace with weapons, communications, warp drive, ad nauseum, and that's Star Trek in a nutshell."

Now that you mention it