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Started by Securious, October 31, 2012, 12:57:48 PM

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Securious

Its not the image but the message that I'm interested in. I dont like lefties, you know that, but she makes sense. She is a wild one for sure, but kudos for raising the issue before parliament while others sit shyly, furtively, shuddering in fear not to say a dicky bird about it from their whips.

Securious

The petitions...



http://www.vancouverobserver.com/politics/sumofus-and-leadnow-deliver-petition-60000-anti-canada-china-fippa-signatures-ottawa">http://www.vancouverobserver.com/politi ... res-ottawa">http://www.vancouverobserver.com/politics/sumofus-and-leadnow-deliver-petition-60000-anti-canada-china-fippa-signatures-ottawa

Obvious Li

Quote from: "Shen Li"I can't stand the sight of that cackling, fat, mutant retard.[/quote]





best description i've heard of that stupid cunt yet.....the only more disgusting pig in ottawa is libby davies.......now that's a peach.....lol,

Obvious Li

read this , study it, memorize it.........



The Chinese are coming, the Chinese are coming



MARGARET WENTE...The Globe and Mail



It's a scary time in Canada these days, and not because of Halloween. A mysterious new investment treaty with China has people spooked. On top of that, the government is about to decide whether CNOOC, a Chinese state-owned oil company, can plant its big red boots in our oil patch. Watch out! We're signing our sovereignty away. Before you can say boo, the rapacious foreigners will turn us into global coolies.



Does all of this seem eerily familiar? Why, yes. Good old-fashioned Canadian nationalism has come back to haunt us. Back in the 1980s, the people who fought the trade deal with the U.S. said the very same things about the Americans. It didn't turn out that way, of course. Free trade made us prosperous and rich.



There's a load of irony in all this. The people who used to be anti-American and pro-Chinese seem to have changed sides. But now that Barack Obama is in office (for the moment, at any rate), anti-Americanism isn't quite as fashionable as it used to be. The Chinese are now the bad guys. And the more they act like capitalists, the more they're demonized for being Communists. "We're not dealing on an even playing field with Communist China," the NDP's Thomas Mulcair warns. "Why in heaven's name would we give up our own resources that way to another country?" The one thing that never goes out of fashion in this country is moral superiority.



The disappointing truth about this investment deal is that it's an incremental step ahead. It won't allow the Chinese to rampage through the land. Canada already has 24 similar agreements with other countries. According to trade lawyer Lawrence Herman, there are 2,500 such agreements in force around the world, and many of them are signed by China.



The real risk to Canada isn't that the Chinese are coming, it's that they'll say to hell with it and take their money somewhere else. And that would be disastrous. We need vast pools of capital to develop our oil and gas fields – hundreds of billions of dollars within the next decade. Where will that money come from? The U.S.? Europe? Fat chance. The people with the money are emerging markets with huge capital surpluses, such as Malaysia and China.



At the same time, we have to diversify our customer base because we're being profoundly screwed by the Americans. So long as they're our only customer for crude oil, they can set the price. The American discount is costing us $18-billion this year alone, according to an estimate by the Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce.



Yet, the Harper government can't figure this thing out. It's acting like its own worst enemy. After announcing to the world that Canada is open for business, it turned down a perfectly respectable takeover offer from the state oil company of Malaysia. In other words: Maybe we're open for business, unless we're not. Meantime, the cabinet is bitterly divided between the pro-China faction and the anti-China faction. Immigration Minister Jason Kenney, for example, thinks that, because the Chinese run sweatshops and abuse human rights, we shouldn't let them near our oil patch. But our oil is here, not there. The Chinese have no doubt figured out that, in Canada, they have to play by our rules.



China is rapidly becoming a sophisticated player that operates around the world. We look like local yokels who don't know what we're doing. We need to make up our minds and get on with it. That doesn't mean we shouldn't bargain hard. The proposed CNOOC-Nexen deal offers us a good chance to negotiate better access in China for Canadian firms, and we should use it.



As the government hems and haws, it has ceded the field to the Sinophobes. Yet, fears that the Chinese will take over our oil industry are ridiculous. As Carleton University's Fen Hampson, an expert on global security, points out, the oil sands are so vast that "it is difficult to see how any one firm could dominate production."



It's easy to figure out why NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair and Green Party Leader Elizabeth May want to tell us scary stories about China. It's not really China they want to stop – it's any more development of the oil sands. So far as they're concerned, bitumen is the devil's creation, and they'll fight it with everything they've got. Those of us who think that responsible development of the oil sands is crucial to our prosperity are just puzzled. For Canada, this is the most important game in the world today. And we're playing it like amateurs.

Securious


Securious

I understand both arguments..this agreement mustn't go through [even though I dont like the woman..the rhetoric is very real. By the same token, I hope and pray that the NDP wont get in Canada's elections as our leaders...if they do were F**ked.

Romero

Quote from: "Securious"I understand both arguments..this agreement mustn't go through [even though I dont like the woman..the rhetoric is very real. By the same token, I hope and pray that the NDP wont get in Canada's elections as our leaders...if they do were F**ked.

If the NDP was in power or we had a minority government, this agreement wouldn't be happening.

Securious

Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Securious"I understand both arguments..this agreement mustn't go through [even though I dont like the woman..the rhetoric is very real. By the same token, I hope and pray that the NDP wont get in Canada's elections as our leaders...if they do were F**ked.

If the NDP was in power or we had a minority government, this agreement wouldn't be happening.

No you are wrong there..it would be on the table and in secret regardless, no matter which "gutless" party. The powers that be would make sure of it.

You may never grasp this notion methinks, the bulbous matter abover yur neck hasnt ripened yet, in the meantime we pray and hope ..oneday, "Eureka!"  the light goes on..

Romero

Quote from: "Securious"The powers that be would make sure of it.

We are not controlled by Jesuit Chinese aliens from Planet X.

Gary Oak

I came to the conclusion long ago that nothing can make sense to Homo-ero

Securious

his is a pink, fluffy and delicate world, have pity

Anonymous

The treaty is bad for Canada and good for China.

Securious

Quote from: "Fashionista"The treaty is bad for Canada and good for China.

very dangerous and shouldnt never even have gone this far [keeping it a secret, throws up a red flag...sorry for the pun]

Gary Oak

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/harper-says-could-block-other-foreign-investments-154807587--finance.html">http://ca.news.yahoo.com/harper-says-co ... nance.html">http://ca.news.yahoo.com/harper-says-could-block-other-foreign-investments-154807587--finance.html



   So is Harper saying that he is going to get tough on foreign investment after he makes sure that these two huge deals that will really screw Canada go through ? Why are we giving away our resources so easily ? The Chinese market isn't so great. You have a huge population that doensn't like to spend because they are barely eking by.