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The Goal of islamic immigration - According to Mo's Teachings

Started by cc, April 16, 2015, 07:47:32 PM

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A very good take in it that exactly fits what we see now in the West



The concept of Muslim immigration began with Islam's prophet. Soon after Muhammad arrived to Yathrib (Medina) together with his close friend and father of his wife Aisha, Abu Bakr, they were joined by a ring of other friends and followers, known in Islamic history as "Companions." They formed in Medina the first body of Muslim immigrants in history and very soon changed the face of Medina, making it the city of the victorious Islam. Immigration transformed Muslims from weak and scattered groups of individuals loyal to their religious leader, into a consolidated army, then a united community and finally, into a socio-religious political state. If Muhammad and his group had never immigrated to Yathrib in 622 AD, there would never have been any Islamic social, economic and political expansion.



Muslims learned and remembered this lesson, and since then the concept of Hijrah- Immigration- as a means of supplanting the native population and reaching the position of power became a well-developed doctrine in Islam. Immigration in Islam is not a Western liberal romance about how the newcomers gratefully search for opportunities for a better life in liberty and offer their talents and loyalty to the benefit of their new homeland. Immigration as Islam sees it is an instrument of Islamic expansionism that employs religious and ethnic separatism in order to gain special status and privilege, then subvert, subdue, and subjugate non-Muslim societies and pave the way for their total Islamization and implementation of Shari'ah law.



The main principle for a Muslim community in a non-Muslim country is that it must be separate and distinct. Already in the Charter of Medina, Muhammad outlined the basic rule for Muslims who emigrate to non-Muslim land, i.e., they must form a separate body, keeping their own laws and making the host country comply with them:



(3) The Quraysh emigrants according to their present custom shall pay the bloodwit within their number and shall redeem their prisoners with the kindness and justice common among believers.



Muslims from the beginning made it clear that they were going to live by their own laws
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Y.K. CHERSON
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

cc

Further ....



Muhammad's teachings forbid Muslims to immigrate to a non-Muslim country if they pursue the goal of their own personal gain or pleasure.



But if they immigrate with the ultimate goal of spreading Islam and making it victorious, or at least this is a part of the reason for their immigration, then they are allowed both pleasure and personal gain.



A Muslim immigrant should not integrate with the host society, but if his stay depends on showing some kind of integration to the host non-Muslim society, then he is permitted to demonstrate a fake  integration, only in appearance and only temporarily, until the goal of subduing and the Islamization of this host society is achieved.
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

cc

I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Thank you for posting that cc la femme..



It's a lot to read, so I only skimmed over it.

easter bunny

The problem with Islam is that the culture treats women badly so their kids get all kinds of psychiatric disorders, and the more sick they get the worse the women get treated. It's a vicious cycle.

Anonymous

Quote from: "easter bunny"The problem with Islam is that the culture treats women badly so their kids get all kinds of psychiatric disorders, and the more sick they get the worse the women get treated. It's a vicious cycle.

All I know is the lady I work with seems very normal..



I only met her children for a very short term, but they seemed fine.

 ac_dunno

cc

This is about Mo's orders for his followers. There are "some" good people / bad islamics out there who do not follow his orders .... at least not until numbers grow and fundies give direct orders as to how to act.
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: "cc la femme"This is about Mo's orders for his followers. There are "some" good people / bad islamics out there.

I see cc la femme.

easter bunny

Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "easter bunny"The problem with Islam is that the culture treats women badly so their kids get all kinds of psychiatric disorders, and the more sick they get the worse the women get treated. It's a vicious cycle.

All I know is the lady I work with seems very normal..



I only met her children for a very short term, but they seemed fine.

 ac_dunno

They have a much better chance of being fine when they live in a country like Canada where the laws are secular, but as soon as the laws change to what their religion dictates then the men gradually get more rights than the women until it ends up like Saudi Arabia.

Anonymous

Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "easter bunny"The problem with Islam is that the culture treats women badly so their kids get all kinds of psychiatric disorders, and the more sick they get the worse the women get treated. It's a vicious cycle.

All I know is the lady I work with seems very normal..



I only met her children for a very short term, but they seemed fine.

 ac_dunno

They have a much better chance of being fine when they live in a country like Canada where the laws are secular, but as soon as the laws change to what their religion dictates then the men gradually get more rights than the women until it ends up like Saudi Arabia.

I am sorry easter bunny, I know so very little about the Islamic religion.

 ac_blush

easter bunny

Quote from: "Fashionista"I am sorry easter bunny, I know so very little about the Islamic religion.

 ac_blush

There's a lot to know but you can get an idea by looking at the divorce laws. A man only has to say "I divorce you" three times while a woman has to go to a Sharia court (run by a man) and prove that she is being neglected (cc might be able to elaborate here), which can be really hard to do. Women also have to pay more money to the court and their word is only worth half that of the husband's. It's the ultimate good ol' boys club.

RW

Beware of Gaslighters!

Anonymous

Quote from: "RW"I heard a woman just has to say it three times.

The lawyers must have a hard time making ends meet. About the only good thing about the Muddle East.ac_dance

cc

Quote from: "RW"I heard a woman just has to say it three times
You been schmoosin with Querky lately? That sounds like what he might believe and say
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

RW

Quote from: "cc la femme"
Quote from: "RW"I heard a woman just has to say it three times
You been schmoosin with Querky lately?

I guess the person who told me got it backwards and not, it was't Romero.
Beware of Gaslighters!