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Immigration Under The Governing Conservatives

Started by Anonymous, July 12, 2015, 12:56:03 PM

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I wasn't sure if this qualifies as politics or not. I generally don't think of immigration as election issue. Anyway, the red people will decide if it needs to be moved or not. I really like how the Conservatives have handled this file. More good immigrants and fewer refugees(most of whom are economic migrants that don't have the skills to immigrate here).


QuoteWhenever you hear a Liberal or New Democrat, or an immigration advocate, claim the Harper Tories are anti-immigrant, anti-multiculturalism or even racist, remember this one figure: Since the Tories came to office in 2006, legal immigration to Canada has increased by 15% annually.



Yes, the Harper government has made it more meaningful to become a Canadian citizen.



It's no longer possible, as it was for nearly 40 years, to show up in Canada out of the blue, demand a passport and be given one.



For nearly four decades under Pierre Trudeau, then Brian Mulroney and then Jean Chretien, nearly anyone could ignore the rules or break them in coming to Canada and still be rewarded with a citizenship card.



The other three numbers to take away from the Harper era: Illegal immigration is down by more than a half. Deportations have more than doubled. The length of time it takes to expel an unsuccessful refugee claimant has been cut by nearly 60%.



In the past nine years, Ottawa has gotten better at keeping out and kicking out people who shouldn't be here, while at the same time maintaining the generosity Canada is renowned for.



In 2005, 28,000 criminals had been ordered deported by the courts in the previous two decades, but they were on the honour system to leave the country.



Many had committed murder, rape or drug deals, but we didn't escort them out.



We took them at their word they would leave. No longer. Deportation means bye-bye.



Much was said around Canada Day and the citizenship swearing-in ceremonies about how the Conservatives have changed Canadian citizenship.



There were charges the Tories have closed Canada's doors, destroyed multiculturalism, adopted a mean spirit towards newcomers and created two tiers of citizenship.



What rubbish.



Liberal MP Arnold Chan from the Ontario riding of Scarborough-Agincourt told an online news site Canada Day reminded him Conservative laws aimed at cutting down on criminal and fraudulant immigrants had made him – the son of immigrants – feel like a "hyphenated Canadian", a second-class citizen.



Liberals often engage in guilt-and-shame rhetoric whenever anyone challenges no-barriers, open-immigration policies: You're either with them or you're a racist.



But the stats don't back up Chan's claim.



The Conservatives have made citizenship mean something again, for native-born Canadians and naturalized citizens alike.



The Tories are fighting in the courts to make sure refugees receive the same health benefits as citizens. (Currently refugees receive more generous benefits.)



Ottawa has cracked down on fraudulent immigration consultants who game the system on behalf of clients, usually by setting up phony Canadian addresses so their clients can claim residency.



The Tories have introduced a new citizenship guide promoting Canadian values, including equality for women, that not all newcomers share when they arrive.



They have coordinated the efforts of the Justice department, Public Safety, the RCMP and Foreign Affairs to ensure terrorists do not sneak into the country claiming to be refugees.



They have scaled back family-class immigration, especially for elderly parents and grandparents.



"Canada is the most generous country in the world with respect to immigration," former immigration minister Jason Kenney explained once, "but there are practical limits to what even a generous nation can afford."



The Tories aren't anti-immigrant. They're against the silly immigration policies of the past.

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2015/07/07/harper-tories-racist-what-rubbish">http://www.edmontonsun.com/2015/07/07/h ... at-rubbish">http://www.edmontonsun.com/2015/07/07/harper-tories-racist-what-rubbish

RW

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Anonymous

Quote from: "RW"What about his temp foreign worker policy?

They went the other way on that one. A contractor I use sometimes, had to send his guys back to Poland.

RW

Canadians should be employed first - always.
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Anonymous

Quote from: "RW"Canadians should be employed first - always.

Absolutely, but sometimes it can be difficult to find Canadians with the required skill set. Not right now though, send them all home.

RW

Then we need to focus on training rather than bringing in foreign workers.
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Anonymous

Quote from: "RW"Then we need to focus on training rather than bringing in foreign workers.

We need to rethink the entire apprenticeship program. Eight weeks a fucking year in a classroom collecting the pittance of EI? How retarded!! I know European tradesmen that have told me they would never have entered the trades if they had to do it on this continent.

RW

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Anonymous

Quote from: "RW"Tell me how it should be revamped.

Flexibilty. The average age of a an apprentice is no longer 19. It's closer to 30 nowadays. Often apprentices today are not living with mommy and daddy, but supporting kids of their own. They cannot afford the steep pay cut that goes along with sitting in a classroom for two months. One of my contractors has a program where you can do one day a week in class. There is also weekend classes and over the internet. The trades still think it's the 1970's.

RW

Education in general has become dated.  The stupid classes students take that aren't relevant to the job chaps my ass. We need faster turn around where possible with more hands on experience built in.
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Anonymous

Quote from: "RW"Education in general has become dated.  The stupid classes students take that aren't relevant to the job chaps my ass. We need faster turn around where possible with more hands on experience built in.

Anyway, I'm glad the feds have cracked down on scammers.

RW

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Anonymous

Quote from: "Shen Li"I wasn't sure if this qualifies as politics or not. I generally don't think of immigration as election issue. Anyway, the red people will decide if it needs to be moved or not. I really like how the Conservatives have handled this file. More good immigrants and fewer refugees(most of whom are economic migrants that don't have the skills to immigrate here).


QuoteWhenever you hear a Liberal or New Democrat, or an immigration advocate, claim the Harper Tories are anti-immigrant, anti-multiculturalism or even racist, remember this one figure: Since the Tories came to office in 2006, legal immigration to Canada has increased by 15% annually.



Yes, the Harper government has made it more meaningful to become a Canadian citizen.



It's no longer possible, as it was for nearly 40 years, to show up in Canada out of the blue, demand a passport and be given one.



For nearly four decades under Pierre Trudeau, then Brian Mulroney and then Jean Chretien, nearly anyone could ignore the rules or break them in coming to Canada and still be rewarded with a citizenship card.



The other three numbers to take away from the Harper era: Illegal immigration is down by more than a half. Deportations have more than doubled. The length of time it takes to expel an unsuccessful refugee claimant has been cut by nearly 60%.



In the past nine years, Ottawa has gotten better at keeping out and kicking out people who shouldn't be here, while at the same time maintaining the generosity Canada is renowned for.



In 2005, 28,000 criminals had been ordered deported by the courts in the previous two decades, but they were on the honour system to leave the country.



Many had committed murder, rape or drug deals, but we didn't escort them out.



We took them at their word they would leave. No longer. Deportation means bye-bye.



Much was said around Canada Day and the citizenship swearing-in ceremonies about how the Conservatives have changed Canadian citizenship.



There were charges the Tories have closed Canada's doors, destroyed multiculturalism, adopted a mean spirit towards newcomers and created two tiers of citizenship.



What rubbish.



Liberal MP Arnold Chan from the Ontario riding of Scarborough-Agincourt told an online news site Canada Day reminded him Conservative laws aimed at cutting down on criminal and fraudulant immigrants had made him – the son of immigrants – feel like a "hyphenated Canadian", a second-class citizen.



Liberals often engage in guilt-and-shame rhetoric whenever anyone challenges no-barriers, open-immigration policies: You're either with them or you're a racist.



But the stats don't back up Chan's claim.



The Conservatives have made citizenship mean something again, for native-born Canadians and naturalized citizens alike.



The Tories are fighting in the courts to make sure refugees receive the same health benefits as citizens. (Currently refugees receive more generous benefits.)



Ottawa has cracked down on fraudulent immigration consultants who game the system on behalf of clients, usually by setting up phony Canadian addresses so their clients can claim residency.



The Tories have introduced a new citizenship guide promoting Canadian values, including equality for women, that not all newcomers share when they arrive.



They have coordinated the efforts of the Justice department, Public Safety, the RCMP and Foreign Affairs to ensure terrorists do not sneak into the country claiming to be refugees.



They have scaled back family-class immigration, especially for elderly parents and grandparents.



"Canada is the most generous country in the world with respect to immigration," former immigration minister Jason Kenney explained once, "but there are practical limits to what even a generous nation can afford."



The Tories aren't anti-immigrant. They're against the silly immigration policies of the past.

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2015/07/07/harper-tories-racist-what-rubbish">http://www.edmontonsun.com/2015/07/07/h ... at-rubbish">http://www.edmontonsun.com/2015/07/07/harper-tories-racist-what-rubbish

What is wrong with refuges Shen Li?

Bricktop


Anonymous

Quote from: "SPECTRE"Refugees from where?

From countries where they are persecuted SPECTRE..



My father was a democracy advocate and a Taiwan independence supporter persecuted under the regime of Chiang Kai Shek.