It's not Fracking that Causes Earthquakes

[Anonymous]

Earthquake Info



http://www.techtimes.com/articles/48828/20150426/usgs-confirms-wasterwater-fracking-causes-earthquakes-finally.htm">http://www.techtimes.com/articles/48828 ... inally.htm">http://www.techtimes.com/articles/48828/20150426/usgs-confirms-wasterwater-fracking-causes-earthquakes-finally.htm



Does the USGS know more than me and the CBC Herman?

It's my job to know my industry. What you may have missed is this, the report also notes that in some areas, the disposal of toxic wastewater does not lead to similar man-made earthquakes. Experts hope that by studying areas where wastewater fracking has no impact, a way can be found to continue fracking activities without the risk of causing earthquakes.



We work with government regulators,and seismologists. We do not flush waste water down the toilet without knowing the impact.

[RW]

You won't explain anything either.  I am giving you an opportunity to dispute things like Gasland and earthquakes.  I won't hold my breath for an answer on either because select information is the MO of oil and gas companies.

Explain what? It appears you have made up your mind?



What I will tell you is I would like the word fracking to disappear. It's too homogeneous for something where each formation, and each well is different. Something Gasland or the CBC study misleads people about. I am doing a workover right now in the Bakken. We have stimulated tens of thousands of wells in South East Saskatchewan, and injection is the common method to dispose of waste water. Have we had any noticeable earthquakes due to waste water being shot into the ground? Sorry, it hasn't happened. The rock in Saskatchewan doesn't have much natural pressure inside it. We have had minor quakes from industry, but it has been salt dissolution.

The quakes reported happen to be in Alberta in the CBC report as well as in the U.S.



As a person in the field, are you saying the reports of quakes resulting from a method/methods of gas extraction absolutely inaccurate?  Is it unheard of for anyone using this/these extraction processes to experience earth quaking at any point during an operation?



Is it also unheard of or impossible to contaminate water tables with chemicals used in any form of extraction process?



I can see why you want he removal of the word "fracking" because it has negative connotations.  Not only that, but it's banned in some countries.

[RW]

When how nasty fracking is truly comes to light, I wonder if all these frackers will have a hard time sleeping at night knowing what they've done?

RW, your being irrational about an industry you are ignorant of. There have been something like 250,000 pressurized wells stimulated using some of the various fracking methods. Where is the disaster that I am supposed to have ha hard time sleeping about?

I'm just adding a twist for dramatic effect ;)



This is a controversial process.  Why is that?

[Anonymous]

Earthquake Info



http://www.techtimes.com/articles/48828/20150426/usgs-confirms-wasterwater-fracking-causes-earthquakes-finally.htm">http://www.techtimes.com/articles/48828 ... inally.htm">http://www.techtimes.com/articles/48828/20150426/usgs-confirms-wasterwater-fracking-causes-earthquakes-finally.htm



Does the USGS know more than me and the CBC Herman?

It's my job to know my industry. What you may have missed is this, the report also notes that in some areas, the disposal of toxic wastewater does not lead to similar man-made earthquakes. Experts hope that by studying areas where wastewater fracking has no impact, a way can be found to continue fracking activities without the risk of causing earthquakes.



We work with government regulators,and seismologists. We do not flush waste water down the toilet without knowing the impact.

My husband told me that there is a lot of variation between states in the USA Herman..



He also said they will likely make changes around in the area North and West of Whitecourt due to one tremor over 3..



Different underground seismic activity I guess compared to the rest of the province which has hasn't had a similar incident.

[RW]

Earthquake Info



http://www.techtimes.com/articles/48828/20150426/usgs-confirms-wasterwater-fracking-causes-earthquakes-finally.htm">http://www.techtimes.com/articles/48828 ... inally.htm">http://www.techtimes.com/articles/48828/20150426/usgs-confirms-wasterwater-fracking-causes-earthquakes-finally.htm



Does the USGS know more than me and the CBC Herman?

It's my job to know my industry. What you may have missed is this, the report also notes that in some areas, the disposal of toxic wastewater does not lead to similar man-made earthquakes. Experts hope that by studying areas where wastewater fracking has no impact, a way can be found to continue fracking activities without the risk of causing earthquakes.



We work with government regulators,and seismologists. We do not flush waste water down the toilet without knowing the impact.

My husband told me that there is a lot of variation between states in the USA Herman..



He also said they will likely make changes around in the area North and West of Whitecourt due to one tremor over 3..



Different underground seismic activity I guess compared to the rest of the province which has hasn't had a similar incident.

Oh so there have been quakes related to fracking in Alberta after all.  Fancy that.  I'm surprised Herman, who knows his field, didn't get the memo.

[Anonymous]

Earthquake Info



http://www.techtimes.com/articles/48828/20150426/usgs-confirms-wasterwater-fracking-causes-earthquakes-finally.htm">http://www.techtimes.com/articles/48828 ... inally.htm">http://www.techtimes.com/articles/48828/20150426/usgs-confirms-wasterwater-fracking-causes-earthquakes-finally.htm



Does the USGS know more than me and the CBC Herman?

It's my job to know my industry. What you may have missed is this, the report also notes that in some areas, the disposal of toxic wastewater does not lead to similar man-made earthquakes. Experts hope that by studying areas where wastewater fracking has no impact, a way can be found to continue fracking activities without the risk of causing earthquakes.



We work with government regulators,and seismologists. We do not flush waste water down the toilet without knowing the impact.

My husband told me that there is a lot of variation between states in the USA Herman..



He also said they will likely make changes around in the area North and West of Whitecourt due to one tremor over 3..



Different underground seismic activity I guess compared to the rest of the province which has hasn't had a similar incident.

Oh so there have been quakes related to fracking in Alberta after all.  Fancy that.  I'm surprised Herman, who knows his field, didn't get the memo.

There have been a few in the Duvernay formation. None that I have heard of in the Bad Heart, Cadmium, the Bow Island, Nisku or most Alberta formations. Like I said RW, I hate the generalities I read about my business. What you know as fracking is a different action from well to well and more importantly from formation to formation. Sometimes something as simple as removing less brine will keep pressures at safer levels. If there is no way to do that, we can send waste water to different disposal wells like what we did when I worked in Pennsylvania.

[Anonymous]

RW, I hope there's no hard feelings with this old roughneck? I am finishing off a multi stage frac job and the pressure in this low price environment is greater than than the sand we are putting down the hole. Fuck ups are inexcusable and I know it's brought out my inner rig pig. It's been a success though and the crew is rigging out. In an hour I will shut down the Pason, empty the wellsite trailer, load the pick up and I will be doing 150 all the way home. Keep my dinner in the oven honey, I'm coming home.

[RW]

Earthquake Info



http://www.techtimes.com/articles/48828/20150426/usgs-confirms-wasterwater-fracking-causes-earthquakes-finally.htm">http://www.techtimes.com/articles/48828 ... inally.htm">http://www.techtimes.com/articles/48828/20150426/usgs-confirms-wasterwater-fracking-causes-earthquakes-finally.htm



Does the USGS know more than me and the CBC Herman?

It's my job to know my industry. What you may have missed is this, the report also notes that in some areas, the disposal of toxic wastewater does not lead to similar man-made earthquakes. Experts hope that by studying areas where wastewater fracking has no impact, a way can be found to continue fracking activities without the risk of causing earthquakes.



We work with government regulators,and seismologists. We do not flush waste water down the toilet without knowing the impact.

My husband told me that there is a lot of variation between states in the USA Herman..



He also said they will likely make changes around in the area North and West of Whitecourt due to one tremor over 3..



Different underground seismic activity I guess compared to the rest of the province which has hasn't had a similar incident.

Oh so there have been quakes related to fracking in Alberta after all.  Fancy that.  I'm surprised Herman, who knows his field, didn't get the memo.

There have been a few in the Duvernay formation. None that I have heard of in the Bad Heart, Cadmium, the Bow Island, Nisku or most Alberta formations. Like I said RW, I hate the generalities I read about my business. What you know as fracking is a different action from well to well and more importantly from formation to formation. Sometimes something as simple as removing less brine will keep pressures at safer levels. If there is no way to do that, we can send waste water to different disposal wells like what we did when I worked in Pennsylvania.

I've done my reading Herman.  I understand there are different processes under the fracking umbrella.  I understand why those that work in the field would want to avoid the negative connotations of the word.  You can call it what you want.  It doesn't change what it is.



What bothers me is how you came into this argument laughing about the CBC article.  Both you and Fash basically denied quakes were happening.  There is a reported 5.6 quake in the U.S. linked to a fracking process.  Does that not raise concerns within your industry?



How about people lighting water on fire?  Is that not also seen as a problem?

[RW]

RW, I hope there's no hard feelings with this old roughneck? I am finishing off a multi stage frac job and the pressure in this low price environment is greater than than the sand we are putting down the hole. Fuck ups are inexcusable and I know it's brought out my inner rig pig. It's been a success though and the crew is rigging out. In an hour I will shut down the Pason, empty the wellsite trailer, load the pick up and I will be doing 150 all the way home. Keep my dinner in the oven honey, I'm coming home.

Grata in getting the job done!  I like my arguments hard so no worries about being rough :)

[Anonymous]

Earthquake Info



http://www.techtimes.com/articles/48828/20150426/usgs-confirms-wasterwater-fracking-causes-earthquakes-finally.htm">http://www.techtimes.com/articles/48828 ... inally.htm">http://www.techtimes.com/articles/48828/20150426/usgs-confirms-wasterwater-fracking-causes-earthquakes-finally.htm



Does the USGS know more than me and the CBC Herman?

It's my job to know my industry. What you may have missed is this, the report also notes that in some areas, the disposal of toxic wastewater does not lead to similar man-made earthquakes. Experts hope that by studying areas where wastewater fracking has no impact, a way can be found to continue fracking activities without the risk of causing earthquakes.



We work with government regulators,and seismologists. We do not flush waste water down the toilet without knowing the impact.

My husband told me that there is a lot of variation between states in the USA Herman..



He also said they will likely make changes around in the area North and West of Whitecourt due to one tremor over 3..



Different underground seismic activity I guess compared to the rest of the province which has hasn't had a similar incident.

Oh so there have been quakes related to fracking in Alberta after all.  Fancy that.  I'm surprised Herman, who knows his field, didn't get the memo.

There have been a few in the Duvernay formation. None that I have heard of in the Bad Heart, Cadmium, the Bow Island, Nisku or most Alberta formations. Like I said RW, I hate the generalities I read about my business. What you know as fracking is a different action from well to well and more importantly from formation to formation. Sometimes something as simple as removing less brine will keep pressures at safer levels. If there is no way to do that, we can send waste water to different disposal wells like what we did when I worked in Pennsylvania.

I've done my reading Herman.  I understand there are different processes under the fracking umbrella.  I understand why those that work in the field would want to avoid the negative connotations of the word.  You can call it what you want.  It doesn't change what it is.



What bothers me is how you came into this argument laughing about the CBC article.  Both you and Fash basically denied quakes were happening.  There is a reported 5.6 quake in the U.S. linked to a fracking process.  Does that not raise concerns within your industry?



How about people lighting water on fire?  Is that not also seen as a problem?

I am denying fracking is the culprit. It's disposal. Did you know when I was a young roughneck/motorhand/derrickhand we used to landspread the waste water just like vac trucks on drilling rigs landspread the waste drilling mud? But, that was shallower vertical wells. Some places in North America put it right into water ways. My point being we have made major improvements. We can and will do the same if certain formations are showing seismic reactions to current methods. We want to keep untrapping millions of barrels of oil and billions of feet of natural gas. And naturally we want to do it by minimizing risks.

[Anonymous]

RW, I hope there's no hard feelings with this old roughneck? I am finishing off a multi stage frac job and the pressure in this low price environment is greater than than the sand we are putting down the hole. Fuck ups are inexcusable and I know it's brought out my inner rig pig. It's been a success though and the crew is rigging out. In an hour I will shut down the Pason, empty the wellsite trailer, load the pick up and I will be doing 150 all the way home. Keep my dinner in the oven honey, I'm coming home.

 ac_smile

[RW]

Earthquake Info



http://www.techtimes.com/articles/48828/20150426/usgs-confirms-wasterwater-fracking-causes-earthquakes-finally.htm">http://www.techtimes.com/articles/48828 ... inally.htm">http://www.techtimes.com/articles/48828/20150426/usgs-confirms-wasterwater-fracking-causes-earthquakes-finally.htm



Does the USGS know more than me and the CBC Herman?

It's my job to know my industry. What you may have missed is this, the report also notes that in some areas, the disposal of toxic wastewater does not lead to similar man-made earthquakes. Experts hope that by studying areas where wastewater fracking has no impact, a way can be found to continue fracking activities without the risk of causing earthquakes.



We work with government regulators,and seismologists. We do not flush waste water down the toilet without knowing the impact.

My husband told me that there is a lot of variation between states in the USA Herman..



He also said they will likely make changes around in the area North and West of Whitecourt due to one tremor over 3..



Different underground seismic activity I guess compared to the rest of the province which has hasn't had a similar incident.

Oh so there have been quakes related to fracking in Alberta after all.  Fancy that.  I'm surprised Herman, who knows his field, didn't get the memo.

There have been a few in the Duvernay formation. None that I have heard of in the Bad Heart, Cadmium, the Bow Island, Nisku or most Alberta formations. Like I said RW, I hate the generalities I read about my business. What you know as fracking is a different action from well to well and more importantly from formation to formation. Sometimes something as simple as removing less brine will keep pressures at safer levels. If there is no way to do that, we can send waste water to different disposal wells like what we did when I worked in Pennsylvania.

I've done my reading Herman.  I understand there are different processes under the fracking umbrella.  I understand why those that work in the field would want to avoid the negative connotations of the word.  You can call it what you want.  It doesn't change what it is.



What bothers me is how you came into this argument laughing about the CBC article.  Both you and Fash basically denied quakes were happening.  There is a reported 5.6 quake in the U.S. linked to a fracking process.  Does that not raise concerns within your industry?



How about people lighting water on fire?  Is that not also seen as a problem?

I am denying fracking is the culprit. It's disposal. Did you know when I was a young roughneck/motorhand/derrickhand we used to landspread the waste water just like vac trucks on drilling rigs landspread the waste drilling mud? But, that was shallower vertical wells. Some places in North America put it right into water ways. My point being we have made major improvements. We can and will do the same if certain formations are showing seismic reactions to current methods. We want to keep untrapping millions of barrels of oil and billions of feet of natural gas. And naturally we want to do it by minimizing risks.

So "disposal" is not part of the fracking process?

[Frood]

It's not giants of fracking which cause earthquakes, it's giants fucking underneath the Earths crust. Stay on topic people.

[reel]

If fracking is causing minor earthquakes, my question would be - so what?



The sizes of earthquake described are happening continuously, all over the world, with no discernible effect.

[RW]

If fracking is causing minor earthquakes, my question would be - so what?



The sizes of earthquake described are happening continuously, all over the world, with no discernible effect.

So you think man made quakes due to oil and gas extraction will have no foreseeable consequence in the future?