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The Ten Most Overrated Rock Performers Of All Time

Started by Bricktop, September 09, 2015, 01:47:47 AM

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Frood

I didn't realize that Britney Spears was a rocker. Rocks in the head, maybe, but rocker?
Blahhhhhh...

Bricktop

Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "SPECTRE"1. Eric Clapton.



If Eric Clapton was indeed God, then heaven would be a very dull and dreary place indeed. Clapton spent his early career jumping from band to band, developing a reputation as a guitarist...and not much else. His nickname of "Slow Hand" was not earned for his guitar playing, but for the time it took for him to tune his guitar before playing. On his own, he recorded one hit, a cover of a Bob Marley song...and outside of that, achieved very little. His best work was performed with real songwriters, like Jack Bruce, Steve Winwood and Duane Allman.



">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th3ycKQV_4k
Um, yeah..how about Crossroads, Tears in Heaven, Layla, Change the World?  You clearly missed his Unplugged album back in '92.



He has 18 Grammys.  Three inductions into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.  He's ranked the 2nd best guitarist on Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time list.  He has The Order of the British Empire FFS and you put him on a list with Britney Spears?!?



You're truly cracked.

Did you read the OP. It says OVERRATED. You've simply described how truly overrated he is.



Clapton has always generated a kind of mystique that towers above his true accomplishments. "Crossroads" was performed by Cream, not Eric Clapton. Much of Cream's sound came from Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker...yet people saw it as a Clapton band. It never was.



"Layla" was a Derek and the Dominos song. Again, not Clapton.



At the risk of being repetitive, this thread isn't necessarily about dud artists...just those who's fame is not fully justified.



Thank you for READING.

RW

Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "SPECTRE"1. Eric Clapton.



If Eric Clapton was indeed God, then heaven would be a very dull and dreary place indeed. Clapton spent his early career jumping from band to band, developing a reputation as a guitarist...and not much else. His nickname of "Slow Hand" was not earned for his guitar playing, but for the time it took for him to tune his guitar before playing. On his own, he recorded one hit, a cover of a Bob Marley song...and outside of that, achieved very little. His best work was performed with real songwriters, like Jack Bruce, Steve Winwood and Duane Allman.



">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th3ycKQV_4k
Um, yeah..how about Crossroads, Tears in Heaven, Layla, Change the World?  You clearly missed his Unplugged album back in '92.



He has 18 Grammys.  Three inductions into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.  He's ranked the 2nd best guitarist on Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time list.  He has The Order of the British Empire FFS and you put him on a list with Britney Spears?!?



You're truly cracked.

Did you read the OP. It says OVERRATED. You've simply described how truly overrated he is.



Clapton has always generated a kind of mystique that towers above his true accomplishments. "Crossroads" was performed by Cream, not Eric Clapton. Much of Cream's sound came from Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker...yet people saw it as a Clapton band. It never was.



"Layla" was a Derek and the Dominos song. Again, not Clapton.



At the risk of being repetitive, this thread isn't necessarily about dud artists...just those who's fame is not fully justified.



Thank you for READING.
Layla was written by Clapton with Jim Gordon and it really hit the stage on Clapton's Unplugged.



If you didn't ignore the 90s, you wouldn't have put him in this shit list.
Beware of Gaslighters!

Bricktop

Its not a shit list. Its an "overrated" list. And he is vastly overrated!!! He lacks originality, has earned reps from colleagues, and how many of his albums have you heard/owned/played. He sells because he's Clapton.His best work is with others. His most known songs are covers.



Pipe down. You know nothing about music.

RW

Quote from: "SPECTRE"Its not a shit list. Its an "overrated" list. And he is vastly overrated!!! He lacks originality, has earned reps from colleagues, and how many of his albums have you heard/owned/played. He sells because he's Clapton.His best work is with others. His most known songs are covers.



Pipe down. You know nothing about music.

Unlike you, I had Clapton's Unplugged in the 90s and I can appreciate an extremely talented guitar player when I hear one.



I find it ironic that you're claiming I know nothing about music while listing Clapton's only hit as "I Shot the Sheriff".  



I don't know why you keep talking down to me when I'm up here.    :JC_howdy:
Beware of Gaslighters!

Bricktop

His guitar playing is not disputed, although hardly earth shattering. More MOR than hard rock.



"I Shot The Sheriff"

"After Midnight"

"Layla"

"Tears In Heaven".



That's it.



That warrants all that glorifying and trophies? I think not.

RW

He's a blues/rock guitarist ya ninny :P.



You should see the list of guitarists that have been influenced by Clapton.  It's long with some big names like Stevie Ray Vaughan, Eddie Van Halen, Slash, Mark Knopfler, etc.



You just don't appreciate a good guitarist.
Beware of Gaslighters!

Bricktop

I should see that list.



Show it to me.



Although its unlikely to mean anything. I've accepted he's a good guitarist. But there are much better, who have received far less recognition.

RW

Okay....



Influence

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/100-greatest-guitarists-20111123/eric-clapton-20111122">http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists ... n-20111122">http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/100-greatest-guitarists-20111123/eric-clapton-20111122



http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/100-greatest-artists-of-all-time-19691231/eric-clapton-20110420">http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists ... n-20110420">http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/100-greatest-artists-of-all-time-19691231/eric-clapton-20110420



Guitar solos

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/rockandpopmusic/11504768/Eric-Claptons-10-greatest-guitar-solos.html">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/musi ... solos.html">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/rockandpopmusic/11504768/Eric-Claptons-10-greatest-guitar-solos.html



More comments on greatness

http://m.thenational.ae/arts-culture/musicians/five-reasons-why-eric-clapton-is-the-real-guitar-hero">http://m.thenational.ae/arts-culture/mu ... uitar-hero">http://m.thenational.ae/arts-culture/musicians/five-reasons-why-eric-clapton-is-the-real-guitar-hero
Beware of Gaslighters!

Frood

Quote from: "SPECTRE"
At the risk of being repetitive, this thread isn't necessarily about dud artists...just those who's fame is not fully justified.



Thank you for READING.


Why didn't you call the thread Ten Most Overrated Music Performers of All Time? Britney would be perfect for that list.
Blahhhhhh...

Bricktop

Quite simply because I enjoy irritating you.



Any more questions?

RW

Nothing to say about my links there slappy?



I didn't think so.
Beware of Gaslighters!

Bricktop

I'm sorry.



Your links say the same thing...over and over again, and I'm not buying it. He's a great guitarist, as far as guitarists go. But frankly, guitar solos are usually boring, indulgent and offer nothing but virtuosity on a single instrument.



Let's compare with...say...David Bowie. Bowie played guitar, sax, keyboards and synths. He wrote most of his music. His live performances were heavy with production in terms of lighting and stage presentations. He inspired a musical genre of abstract jazz and synths with the three Berlin albums (Station to Station, Low and Heroes). He's sold millions of albums and singles.



Is Clapton more of a legend than Bowie? How about Queen? T. Rex? Pink Floyd?



Clapton played guitar. Rick Wakeman played keyboards, and was at LEAST as much of a virtuoso, and wrote his own concept albums.



Clapton aint nuthin' special...

RW

Yes, Clapton is more of a legend than any you listed above in his own right.



What you should be considering is Clapton's influence on music.  That's what really counts isn't it?  What music looked like before vs after an artist came into the scene.  Before Clapton, rock and roll had things like saxophones or pianos in solo breaks.  Clapton came alone with his guitar and pushed all instruments out of top rock spot.  It was Clapton that made the electric guitar THE sound of rock music.  He would get sounds from a guitar that no one had even heard before.  



What status would you give to an artist who set the template for rock guitar that everyone did and still does follow even today?  God?



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Beware of Gaslighters!

RW

To cure Clapton ignorance, please read: http://mickeysr.hubpages.com/hub/Eric-Clapton-More-Significant-Than-You-Think">http://mickeysr.hubpages.com/hub/Eric-C ... -You-Think">http://mickeysr.hubpages.com/hub/Eric-Clapton-More-Significant-Than-You-Think



Yes Spec, I mean you.
Beware of Gaslighters!