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Poll Shows Solid Majority Of Canadians Do Not Want More Refugees.

Started by Anonymous, February 19, 2016, 03:36:33 PM

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This poll that was in today's National Post should come as a surprise to no one. Our economy is in the shitter, the new government will be running huge deficits and besides it's not fair to Canadians like our single soldiers who are losing their bunks. Not to mention Muslims don't respect Western values of tolerance and equality.
QuoteCANADIANS AGAINST REFUGEE PLAN: POLL

Liberals boost health care for new arrivals



The federal Liberals have announced they are boosting health coverage for refugees, just as a new poll suggests that more than 70 per cent of Canadians don't want the government to take in beyond 25,000 displaced Syrians.



The Liberals said Thursday they are ripping up a patchwork system of healthcare coverage for newly arrived refugees and those seeking refugee status in favour of blanket coverage for all, starting in April.

The government will also extend coverage in 2017 to certain refugees before they even arrive in Canada, including picking up the tab for the medical exams they need to pass in order to move here.

"This will help refugees, it will help health- care providers, it will help Canadians," Health Minister Jane Philpott said.

But a poll released Friday by the Angus Reid Institute suggests a majority of Canadians believe the country is approaching its limit for accepting Syrian refugees. More than 21,000 had arrived in Canada as of Tuesday, according to a federal government website. The Liberals are working to meet a target of 25,000 Syrian refugees by the end of the month.

Immigration Minist er John McCallum also has promised the Liberals would exceed their original commitment and accept a total of 35,000 to 50,000 Syrian refugees by the end of 2016. The poll suggests this is at odds with what the majority of Canadians want.

Most Canadians feel the timeline is too short, and fewer than one in three think the refugee screening process is adequate to ensure none of the refugees pose a threat, Angus Reid said. In fact, more than four in 10 would prefer Canada stop short of the goal of 25,000, while another three in 10 say 25,000 is enough.

Support for exceeding the 25,000 benchmark is lowest in the Prairies and Quebec, where fewer than a quarter of respondents were in favour. It is highest in B.C., where roughly two in five respondents were in favour.

The Angus Reid Institute poll drew responses from more than 1,500 Canadians who are members of the Angus Reid Forum, with a margin of error of plus or minus 2.5 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.

The poll results come just days after a Calgary school was vandalized with the message "Syrians Go Home and Die."

McCallum has acknowl edged the potential f or negative attitudes toward the arriving refugees.

"It's a delicate balance," he said in January. "We want to welcome all of these refugees with open hearts and with love the way Canadians have, but at the same time we are mindful that we don't want to offend Canadians who have, themselves, been waiting for a long time for social housing and things of that nature."

During the election campaign last year, the Liberals pledged to restore the federal health program. The former Conservative government had clawed back many of its provisions in a 2012 move that was part of a broader overhaul of the refugee system and also a bid to save $20 million a year.

That l ed to a series of successful court challenges. A scathing 2014 decision from the Federal Court ruled that the cuts amounted to "cruel and unusual" treatment and put people's lives in danger.

While the court decisions forced the Conservatives to bring back some of the benefits, they didn't restore them all, instead creating more than a dozen categories that frustrated health- care providers and claimants.

The Liberals took the first step late last year to restoring the program when they granted full coverage to Syrian refugees who were coming to Canada.

McCallum said the restoration will cost an additional $ 5.9 million a year and the extension of the program will cost $ 5.6 million starting in 2017. He said the money is covered by the existing $ 51- million- a- year budget for the program.

In the wake of the Conservative cuts, several provinces stepped forward to pick up the tabs on their own and one of them, Ontario, estimates it spent $2 million providing the extra care.

Anonymous

If asked, I would have been one of the seventy per cent who thinks the screening of refugees is inadequate. Twenty five thousand is more than enough. The store is now closed.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Herman"If asked, I would have been one of the seventy per cent who thinks the screening of refugees is inadequate. Twenty five thousand is more than enough. The store is now closed.

Justine is like Frau Merkel. He'll do what he wants to do and if the rest of don't like it, too fucking bad. In the mean time, he has to go to Pearson for a selfie with the next batch of Syrians.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Shen Li"This poll that was in today's National Post should come as a surprise to no one. Our economy is in the shitter, the new government will be running huge deficits and besides it's not fair to Canadians like our single soldiers who are losing their bunks. Not to mention Muslims don't respect Western values of tolerance and equality.
QuoteCANADIANS AGAINST REFUGEE PLAN: POLL

Liberals boost health care for new arrivals



The federal Liberals have announced they are boosting health coverage for refugees, just as a new poll suggests that more than 70 per cent of Canadians don't want the government to take in beyond 25,000 displaced Syrians.



The Liberals said Thursday they are ripping up a patchwork system of healthcare coverage for newly arrived refugees and those seeking refugee status in favour of blanket coverage for all, starting in April.

The government will also extend coverage in 2017 to certain refugees before they even arrive in Canada, including picking up the tab for the medical exams they need to pass in order to move here.

"This will help refugees, it will help health- care providers, it will help Canadians," Health Minister Jane Philpott said.

But a poll released Friday by the Angus Reid Institute suggests a majority of Canadians believe the country is approaching its limit for accepting Syrian refugees. More than 21,000 had arrived in Canada as of Tuesday, according to a federal government website. The Liberals are working to meet a target of 25,000 Syrian refugees by the end of the month.

Immigration Minist er John McCallum also has promised the Liberals would exceed their original commitment and accept a total of 35,000 to 50,000 Syrian refugees by the end of 2016. The poll suggests this is at odds with what the majority of Canadians want.

Most Canadians feel the timeline is too short, and fewer than one in three think the refugee screening process is adequate to ensure none of the refugees pose a threat, Angus Reid said. In fact, more than four in 10 would prefer Canada stop short of the goal of 25,000, while another three in 10 say 25,000 is enough.

Support for exceeding the 25,000 benchmark is lowest in the Prairies and Quebec, where fewer than a quarter of respondents were in favour. It is highest in B.C., where roughly two in five respondents were in favour.

The Angus Reid Institute poll drew responses from more than 1,500 Canadians who are members of the Angus Reid Forum, with a margin of error of plus or minus 2.5 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.

The poll results come just days after a Calgary school was vandalized with the message "Syrians Go Home and Die."

McCallum has acknowl edged the potential f or negative attitudes toward the arriving refugees.

"It's a delicate balance," he said in January. "We want to welcome all of these refugees with open hearts and with love the way Canadians have, but at the same time we are mindful that we don't want to offend Canadians who have, themselves, been waiting for a long time for social housing and things of that nature."

During the election campaign last year, the Liberals pledged to restore the federal health program. The former Conservative government had clawed back many of its provisions in a 2012 move that was part of a broader overhaul of the refugee system and also a bid to save $20 million a year.

That l ed to a series of successful court challenges. A scathing 2014 decision from the Federal Court ruled that the cuts amounted to "cruel and unusual" treatment and put people's lives in danger.

While the court decisions forced the Conservatives to bring back some of the benefits, they didn't restore them all, instead creating more than a dozen categories that frustrated health- care providers and claimants.

The Liberals took the first step late last year to restoring the program when they granted full coverage to Syrian refugees who were coming to Canada.

McCallum said the restoration will cost an additional $ 5.9 million a year and the extension of the program will cost $ 5.6 million starting in 2017. He said the money is covered by the existing $ 51- million- a- year budget for the program.

In the wake of the Conservative cuts, several provinces stepped forward to pick up the tabs on their own and one of them, Ontario, estimates it spent $2 million providing the extra care.

I never get asked either..



But, I would disagree with the majority in this survey if I was.

Anonymous

^Then you put em up at your place in Calgary. You're responsible for their costs and their actions.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Shen Li"^Then you put em up at your place in Calgary. You're responsible for their costs and their actions.

I'm afraid my modest house is too small.

RW

People where I live want to bring them to our area.  I was ask to help fundraise.  I said no.
Beware of Gaslighters!

Anonymous

I was supportive of the Liberal party's plan to bring in more refugees than either of the two other parties prior to the election. But, now that I've seen the strain it has placed on communities and resources, not to mention speeding up the screening process, I am having second thoughts. How does having so many Syrians leave Syria permanently help that country rebuild? ac_umm

RW

Beware of Gaslighters!

Anonymous

The premier of Ontario is calling the majority of Canadians racists. She should stick to what she does best; driving the former economic engine of Canada into the ground...fucking twat.



From Talk Radio 640 AM
QuoteThe national Angus Reid poll shows that Canadians by a 70% majority do not support bringing in more than 25,000 Syrian refugees to Canada. 42% believe that we should immediately stop taking in Syrian refugees. This is after the federal Immigration Minister John McCallum committed to bringing in between 35,000 – 50,000 into the country.   52% nationally support the 25,000 refugees number, while 44% oppose it.  Only 31% of Canadians have confidence that the security screening of Syrian refugees is "adequate."



In November, Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne said "what we can't give in to, I think, is allowing security to mask racism. That's the danger and that somehow talking about security allows us to tap into that racist vein, when that isn't who we are."



The Premier of Ontario is saying that if you express security concerns about Syrian refugees entering Canada, that allows you to "tap into that racist vein".  What gives a politician the right to accuse constituents, accuse Canadians of being racists?  They come to you for a job and when they get the job they feel empowered to label constituents racists. Are you racist or is Kathleen Wynne out of line?

Anonymous

You will be shocked to know that Romero wants more Islamist queue jumpers brought in on our dime an apparently the British pound.

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Anonymous

Quote from: "Shen Li"You will be shocked to know that Romero wants more Islamist queue jumpers brought in on our dime an apparently the British pound.

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12717411_1670275069856659_2864291117487492752_n.jpg?oh=42fb33f472f8409634aa9daa978fb6ca&oe=572D1A0F">

He reminds me of John Oliver.


Anonymous

I don't care that Trudeau could not meet his deadline of the end of December. No more refugees please.