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Started by Obvious Li, October 07, 2012, 06:47:47 PM

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Brent

People from India, the world's largest democracy are flooding our airports and receiving asylum. Trudeau is pulling a Biden-Harris and sending about 100,000 asylum seekers to parts of the country that don't vote Liberal.

Trudeau is the worst prime minister Canada has ever had. By a long shot too.

QuoteThe Trudeau government relaxed the visa requirements, in some cases waiving them. That has resulted in people who would otherwise be denied entrance to Canada being given permission to fly here and claim immediate asylum.

India is currently the top source country for people claiming asylum with more than 15,000 claims in the first six months of this year, claims from Mexico are at nearly 9,000. People coming here from India and Mexico, with rare exception, are not refugees, they are economic migrants abusing a system meant to protect people from persecution.

The Liberals could fix this problem by fixing the visa system, but they'd rather talk about building hotels, busing people across the country and be arguing with premiers than looking for solutions.

When it isn't letting the visa system rot, we have questions about how well we vet people coming into the country.

On Friday, Muhammad Shahzeb Khan was in court on terrorism charges. Khan was arrested last week after the FBI uncovered a plot, they say would have seen Khan travel to Brooklyn, New York to carry out an attack on the Jewish community there.

Khan was living in the Toronto area for a little over a year but is a Pakistani national who was admitted to Canada in June 2023 on a student visa. The arrest came just five weeks after Ahmed Eldidi was arrested on terrorism charges with a plot allegedly targeting Toronto's Jewish community.

Eldidi had come to Canada on a visitor's visa in 2018, claimed refugee status a few months later and was granted Canadian citizenship in May 2024 just before he was arrested.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was asked about the strength of our vetting system during a news conference in Montreal. To listen to Trudeau, there are no problems with the system.

Our asylum claims are off the charts, the visa system is broken, we can't properly vet people coming into Canada and now a report from TD Bank that says the over reliance on temporary foreign workers is hurting the economy.

All of these problems have been created by the Trudeau Liberals and their mismanagement of the system.
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/trudeau-has-broken-every-aspect-of-our-immigration-system

DKG

Justin Trudeau has suffered another devastating byelection blow with the loss of a second Liberal stronghold, this one to the Bloc Québécois in LaSalle—Émard—Verdun.


Voters went to the polls Monday in the Montreal riding as well as in Winnipeg's Elmwood—Transcona, where the NDP retained its long-held seat after a tough race against the Conservatives.

Trudeau already faced calls from party faithful to resign as leader after unexpectedly losing Toronto—St. Paul's to the Conservatives in a byelection this past June.

Longtime Liberal supporter and strategist Andrew Perez called this new loss "yet another nail in Justin Trudeau's coffin."

While byelections aren't usually credited with much significance on Parliament Hill, the votes in Winnipeg and Montreal were viewed as bellwethers of the political shifts happening in Canada.

Herman

We could have a confidence vote in parliament as early as next week. Which party, the NDP or the Bloc Quebecois will keep Justine in power.

Berry Sweet

Liberals lost the Montreal and Winnipeg by-elections yesterday.  Now Quebec is talking about getting rid of the migrants there and shipping them to other provinces.  That's keeping Canadians hostage, again.

No province wants these Losers.  Deport them all.  Stop bringing them here...esp just for votes.  Canada needs to stop the equalization payments.  Esp toward Quebec.  They take everything.  At this point, Quebec should separate from Canada or the west should separate.  The west doesn't need to be finding the easts bullshit.

Shen Li

Quote from: Berry Sweet on September 17, 2024, 11:21:07 PMLiberals lost the Montreal and Winnipeg by-elections yesterday.  Now Quebec is talking about getting rid of the migrants there and shipping them to other provinces.  That's keeping Canadians hostage, again.

No province wants these Losers.  Deport them all.  Stop bringing them here...esp just for votes.  Canada needs to stop the equalization payments.  Esp toward Quebec.  They take everything.  At this point, Quebec should separate from Canada or the west should separate.  The west doesn't need to be finding the easts bullshit.
Sask, Alberta and BC are getting them. The premier of Alberta told Trudeau her province won't take them. :thumbup2:  :yeahhh:

DKG

Rumour has it that Trudeau is waiting until after the US presidential election to decide if he steps down as Liberal Party leader and PM.

If Harris wins, he resigns. If Trump wins he is going to gamble that Canadians will let him stick around to save Canada from Trump's Canadian agent, Pierre Poilievre.

Thiel

It seems the Liberals are grooming Mark Carney to be Trudeau's successor.

gay, conservative and proud

Shen Li

How does the CEO of Bell get $13 million the year before his company gets downgraded to one level above junk bond status?

This is the crony capitalism of the Trudeau's state-run economy. Politicians protect big oligopolies against competition and those oligopolies use their media arms to give politicians glowing coverage.
https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/bell-ceo-received-13-4-million-in-compensation-in-2023
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Berry Sweet

Quote from: DKG on September 21, 2024, 09:48:24 AMRumour has it that Trudeau is waiting until after the US presidential election to decide if he steps down as Liberal Party leader and PM.

If Harris wins, he resigns. If Trump wins he is going to gamble that Canadians will let him stick around to save Canada from Trump's Canadian agent, Pierre Poilievre.

If this is true, none of this is going to help him, majority of Canadians hate him..the rest of the world is laughing at him, except uneducated east indians...I mean, you can't fix stupid.

Dildeau recently made his repetative BS speach at the UN, and there as literally no one there, those who were, weren't even listening to him.

the Liberals are done.  the conservatives are going to win the next election...the writing is on the wall.  Dildeau and Twitchy completely destroyed the Liberal party for years to come.  Same with the NDP...Freakmeet destroyed the party too.  Who can trust anyone from these parties after all the nonsense and lies they've spewed?

and fuck the bloc...the bloc shouldn't be a federal party...they should be eliminated...equalization payments need to stop...I hope Pierre can stop this when he gets elected.  Quebec can go fuck themselves.

DKG

Quote from: Berry Sweet on September 24, 2024, 02:28:01 AMIf this is true, none of this is going to help him, majority of Canadians hate him..the rest of the world is laughing at him, except uneducated east indians...I mean, you can't fix stupid.

Dildeau recently made his repetative BS speach at the UN, and there as literally no one there, those who were, weren't even listening to him.

the Liberals are done.  the conservatives are going to win the next election...the writing is on the wall.  Dildeau and Twitchy completely destroyed the Liberal party for years to come.  Same with the NDP...Freakmeet destroyed the party too.  Who can trust anyone from these parties after all the nonsense and lies they've spewed?

and fuck the bloc...the bloc shouldn't be a federal party...they should be eliminated...equalization payments need to stop...I hope Pierre can stop this when he gets elected.  Quebec can go fuck themselves.
Precisely Berry. Step down, don't step down,it doesn't matter now. The Liberals are toast in the next election and they know it.

And who would want to become leader of the party at this point with less than one year until the next election. They will have to run on Trudeau's abysmal record and they know they will get slaughtered just like Kim Campbell did in 1993.

Herman

PBO report clearly shows Trudeau's carbon tax costs you more

No, you don't get more in rebates than what the carbon tax costs you.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/pbo-report-clearly-shows-trudeaus-carbon-tax-cost-you-more
Justin Trudeau's carbon tax will cost most Canadians more, it will lower your income and it will shrink our economy.

Those are the conclusions of the Parliamentary Budget Officer (PBO), an independent officer of Parliament, after looking at the fiscal and total economic impact of the carbon tax.

In Ontario, the estimate is between paying an extra $588 a year and $3,467. For Alberta, the range was $130 to $3,122. And in Manitoba, it's between $218 and $3,295.

This is the second report by the PBO to find this.

"In 2030-31, taking into consideration both fiscal and economic impacts, we estimate that the average household in each of the backstop provinces will see a net cost, paying more in the federal fuel charge and GST, as well as receiving lower incomes (due to the fuel charge), compared to the Canada Carbon Rebate they receive."

Not to sound like Chandler from Friends but, "Could they be any clearer?"

Herman

Nobody wants to run Trudeau's next election campaign because nobody thinks he can actually win. 🤣

Herman


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Herman

Cost of Ottawa's gun ban fiasco may reach $6 billion

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/blogs/cost-of-ottawas-gun-ban-fiasco-may-reach-6-billion?utm_medium=paid&utm_source=fb&utm_id=6661474718596&utm_content=6661474720596&utm_term=6661474720196&utm_campaign=6661474718596&fbclid=IwY2xjawF9RZJleHRuA2FlbQEwAAEdL4CP9ZbefwmRwmhNMvA8d5x18RPKuPbvIGEOa2DparIRKdH4egOfKyIT_aem_-0IXfVG-ea-9u2Vfc4vlng
Four years ago, the Trudeau government banned "1,500 types" of "assault-style firearms." It's time to ask if public safety has improved as promised.

This ban instantly made it a crime for federally-licenced firearms owners to buy, sell, transport, import, export or use hundreds of thousands formerly legal rifles and shotguns. According to the government, the ban targets "assault-style weapons," which are actually classic semi-automatic rifles and shotguns that have been popular with hunters and sport shooters for more than 100 years. When announcing the ban, the prime minister said the government would confiscate the banned firearms and their legal owners would be "grandfathered" or receive "fair compensation." That hasn't happened.

As of October 2024, the government has revealed no plans about how it will collect the newly-banned firearms nor has it made any provisions for compensation in any federal budget since the announcement in 2020. Originally, the government enacted a two-year amnesty period to allow compliance with the ban. This amnesty expired in April 2022 and has been twice extended, first to Oct. 30, 2023, then to Oct. 30, 2025.

Clearly, the ban—which the government calls a "buyback"—has been a gong show from the beginning. Since Trudeau's announcement four years ago, virtually none of the banned firearms have been surrendered. The Ontario government refuses to divert police resources to cooperate with this federal "buyback" scheme. The RCMP's labour union has said it's a "misdirected effort when it comes to public safety." The Canadian Sporting Arms & Ammunition Association, which represents firearms retailers, said it will have "zero involvement" in helping confiscate these firearms. Even Canada Post wants nothing to do with Trudeau's "buyback" plan. And again, the government has revealed no plan for compensation—fair or otherwise.

And yet, according to the government, it has already spent $67.2 million, which includes compensation for 60 federal employees working on the "buyback," which still doesn't exist.

It remains unclear just how many firearms the 2020 ban includes. The Parliamentary Budget Officer estimates range between 150,000 to more than 500,000, with an estimated total value between $47 million and $756 million. These costs only include the value of the confiscated firearms and exclude the administrative costs to collect them and the costs of destroying the collected firearms. The total cost of this ban to taxpayers will be more than $4 billion and possibly more than $6 billion.

Nevertheless, while the ban of remains a confusing mess, after four years we should be able to answer one key question. Has the ban made Canadians safer?

According to Statistics Canada, firearm-related violent crime swelled by 10 per cent from 2020 to 2022 (the latest year of comparable data), from 12,614 incidents to 13,937 incidents. And in "2022, the rate of firearm-related violent crime was 36.7 incidents per 100,000 population, an 8.9% increase from 2021 (33.7 incidents per 100,000 population). This is the highest rate recorded since comparable data were first collected in 2009."

Nor have firearm homicides decreased since 2020. Perhaps this is because lawfully-held firearms are not the problem. According to StatsCan, "the firearms used in homicides were rarely legal firearms used by their legal owners." However, crimes committed by organized crime have increased by more than 170 per cent since 2016 (from 4,810 to 13,056 crimes).

Meanwhile, the banned firearms remain locked in the safes of their legal owners who have been vetted by the RCMP and are monitored nightly for any infractions that might endanger public safety.

Indeed, hunters and sport shooters are among the most law-abiding people in Canada. Many Canadian families and Indigenous peoples depend on hunting to provide food for the family dinner table through legal harvesting, with the added benefit of getting out in the wilderness and spending time with family and friends. In 2015, hunting and firearm businesses alone contributed more than $5.9 billion to Canada's economy and supported more than 45,000 jobs. Hunters are the largest contributors to conservation efforts, contributing hundreds of millions of dollars to secure conservation lands and manage wildlife. The number of licenced firearms owners has increased 17 per cent since 2015 (from 2.026 million to 2.365 million) in 2023.

If policymakers in Ottawa and across the country want to reduce crime and increase public safety, they should enact policies that actually target criminals and use our scarce tax dollars wisely to achieve these goals.