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Trans Canada terminates Energy East project

Started by Anonymous, October 05, 2017, 09:21:56 AM

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When the Trudeau government changed the climate impact review to include indirect climate emissions which could include trucks delivering parts that was the eulogy for the massive infrastructure project..



This is a serious blow to Alberta and all of Canada..



Fourteen thousand jobs, ten billion dollars in tax revenue, and a fifty five billion dollar boost to the economy..



Apparently Trudeau feels it will cost him in Quebec in the next election..



But, seven hundred and fifty thousand barrels a day of foreign oil is not a problem in that province,

 :crazy:

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This makes me understand why Shen Li is opposed to universal suffrage.

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Quote from: "Fashionista"When the Trudeau government changed the climate impact review to include indirect climate emissions which could include trucks delivering parts that was the eulogy for the massive infrastructure project..



This is a serious blow to Alberta and all of Canada..



Fourteen thousand jobs, ten billion dollars in tax revenue, and a fifty five billion dollar boost to the economy..



Apparently Trudeau feels it will cost him in Quebec in the next election..



But, seven hundred and fifty thousand barrels a day of foreign oil is not a problem in that province,

 :crazy:

No review of "indirect emissions" of OPEC oil though.



Dumb, dumb, dumb, but no real surprise. This circus continues.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"When the Trudeau government changed the climate impact review to include indirect climate emissions which could include trucks delivering parts that was the eulogy for the massive infrastructure project..



This is a serious blow to Alberta and all of Canada..



Fourteen thousand jobs, ten billion dollars in tax revenue, and a fifty five billion dollar boost to the economy..



Apparently Trudeau feels it will cost him in Quebec in the next election..



But, seven hundred and fifty thousand barrels a day of foreign oil is not a problem in that province,

 :crazy:

No review of "indirect emissions" of OPEC oil though.



Dumb, dumb, dumb, but no real surprise. This circus continues.

If I meet another leftist complaining about greedy capitalists moving good overseas, I am going to  punch him in the face.

Anonymous

Quote from: "seoulbro"If I meet another leftist complaining about greedy capitalists moving good overseas, I am going to  punch him in the face.

I am not going to do that Seoul..



But, this project not going ahead is disappointing..



My husband's company is Calgary based, but they now have more work in the USA..



Maybe we might have to move there..



We would prefer to stay here, but Canada doesn't seem to want to see my husband's company have work.

Anonymous

Right on Candy. What the hell kind of 'nation' are we running here where one part of the country can block Canadian natural resources from supplanting foreign shit.


QuoteThe Energy East pipeline should have been a no-brainer.



The $15.7 billion proposed state-of-the-art pipeline would have been exactly the type of infrastructure upgrade that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says Canada needs.



Our political leaders, at all levels of government, should have jumped at the opportunity to work together and ensure this piece of critical infrastructure was built.



It could have been a modern-day nation-building project – one that was privately funded and would provide immense economic benefit from coast to coast.



The proposed pipeline would have carried oil – 1.1 million barrels per day – from Alberta and Saskatchewan across the country to Canada's largest refinery in New Brunswick.



This pipeline would replace oil trucks and trains. It would cut down the need for tankers in the Atlantic. It would have created thousands of jobs.



And, it would have reduced Canada's dependency on foreign conflict oil – buying oil from despotic regimes like the one in Venezuela that cruelly imposes socialism on its people, or the ones in the Middle East that funnel cash to radical Islamic centers and terrorist organizations.



The case in favour of building this pipeline is so comprehensive, so persuasive, that it could only be defeated by the most powerful, most unethical of special interest groups.




Yet, that's exactly what happened.



The Liberal mayor of Montreal Denis Coderre, who has implied Albertans are stupid, and Justin Trudeau, who once said that Canada suffers when Albertans are involved in our public life, teamed up to kill Energy East.



If there was any doubt the Liberals were working behind closed doors to kill this project, it was quickly washed away by Coderre's reaction to the news.



He could hardly contain his jubilation, telling reporters Thursday that it was "an enormous victory". He took credit, and said he was proud of the work done by the special interest groups who shut this project down.



Imagine that. The mayor of Quebec's largest city, a partisan colleague of the Prime Minister, openly celebrating news that countless jobs have been destroyed.



A man who represent millions of people in a province that is the largest recipient of equalization transfer payments – taking more than $250 billion over the years – is elated over news that kicks the donor provinces while they're down.



Coderre can openly cheer the decision, while his Ottawa ally – Trudeau – must be coy.



A Trudeau official brushed this off as a mere "business decision," but it's clear to anyone paying attention that this cancelation came because of Trudeau's job-killing regulatory environment.



At the end of the day, Trudeau shares Coderre's worldview. He knows that Canada's oil has the highest environmental and labour standards, but he just doesn't care.



That's why his government is imposing crippling carbon taxes while lying to hardworking taxpayers by saying they provide a "social licence" for further development.



These shameless politicians put their hard-Left ideology ahead of jobs and families, but even worse, they put it ahead of our national unity.



Canada, after all, is an economic union; Confederation was based on economic development, inter-provincial trade and the promise of mutual prosperity.



Without the basic ability to trade, to ship goods across the country, what sense does it make to send western cash to fund eastern welfare?



Shame on Denis Coderre. Shame on Justin Trudeau. And shame on all of us for putting these small-minded politicians – ignorant of our history, hostile to our economic opportunities – in positions of power.

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2017/10/06/leftist-politicians-put-ideology-ahead-of-no-brainer-pipelines">http://www.edmontonsun.com/2017/10/06/l ... -pipelines">http://www.edmontonsun.com/2017/10/06/leftist-politicians-put-ideology-ahead-of-no-brainer-pipelines

Anonymous

Venezuela's brutal socialist regime and Middle Eastern Islamist exporters are throwing a party in honour of their new bestie, True Dope. They no longer have to fear free and fair competition from Canada for the Canadian market.


QuoteTransCanada's cancellation Thursday of the Energy East pipeline may be a victory for myopic environmentalists, but it is also an indictment of the Trudeau Liberals.



Under Justin Trudeau's leadership, the Liberals imposed stringent greenhouse gas regulations on TransCanada that do not apply to foreign entities — including those ruled by despots and human-rights abusers — that are shipping crude by ocean-going tankers for off-loading at Canada's east-coast ports.



So, it was hardly a level oil field.



It has not been a good week for the prime minister. On Wednesday, Trudeau was embarrassingly berated on Parliament Hill by First Nation demonstrators over his government's undeniable botching and projected indifference concerning the inquiry into murdered and missing indigenous women and girls.



"How dare you come out here and say that you support our families?" asked B.C.'s Connie Greyeyes.



"How dare you come out here and say these things?"



And then came TransCanada pulling the plug on a pipeline project from Alberta's oilsands to refineries in Saint John, N.B., that would have provided upwards of 15,000 construction jobs, and another 1,000 positions down the road.



The Energy East pipeline, 4,600 kms in length, would have been the longest pipeline in North America, with the capacity of safely moving 1.1-million barrels of oilsands and Saskatchewan crude a day to refineries on the East Coast.



If there was ever a mega-project, this was it.  It carried a $15.7-billion price tag, and would have provided billions in tax revenues.



Gone, too, is TransCanada's Eastern Mainline project which would have added new natural gas pipelines and gas-compression facilities in southwestern Ontario and Quebec where most of the country's home and industrial gas consumers are located.



The reason? The same stringent Canada-only environmental regulations that took the Energy East pipeline out of play, but continues to allow foreign fuels to flow into Canada without the same onerous regulations.



Quebec Premier Phillippe Couillard and Montreal Mayor Denis Coderre, the two loudest opponents of Energy East, would appear to have very short memories, and therefore dismissive of the fact that pipelines are arguably the safest method of moving crude, a commodity that is still vitally necessary and thus far irreplaceable.



Have they forgotten Lac Megantic, or don't they care?



Would they rather have Canadians continue to bail out Bombardier than have Quebecers feel safe when freight trains roll through their towns in the middle of the night?



As a reminder, 47 Quebecers burned to death on that tragic day back in July 2013 when an unattended 74-car freight train carrying tankers filled with crude rolled down the hill and exploded in the town, destroying almost half of Lac Megantic's downtown core.



Lisa Raitt, now deputy leader of the federal Conservatives, had to deal with the aftermath of that disaster while transport minister in the government of former PM Stephen Harper.



And she took direct aim Thursday at Trudeau for the cancellation of the Energy East pipeline.



"I want to be very clear," she said. "Today's announcement is not a result of a sudden decision by TransCanada.



"It's a result of the disastrous energy policies promoted by Justin Trudeau and his failure to champion the Canadian energy sector."



"He forced Canadian oil companies to comply with standards that are not required for foreign countries," she added.



 "And these decisions have allowed companies operating in Venezuela, Saudi Arabia and Algeria to ship oil to Canada with an advantage over companies like TransCanada that employ middle-class Canadians."



But she was not done.



"Everything Justin Trudeau touches becomes a nightmare," she said.



Would that she were wrong, but she isn't.

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2017/10/05/a-pipeline-dies-in-the-wake-of-lac-megantic-being-forgotten">http://www.edmontonsun.com/2017/10/05/a ... -forgotten">http://www.edmontonsun.com/2017/10/05/a-pipeline-dies-in-the-wake-of-lac-megantic-being-forgotten

Anonymous

Gunter is right, TransCanada  is still in the pipeline business. They just  got tired of being dicked around by True Dope and friends.
QuoteAlmost the moment TransCanada announced Thursday it was ending its attempt to build the $15-billion Energy East Pipeline from Alberta to New Brunswick, the federal Liberal government began insisting this was purely a "business decision."



Don't look at us, Trudeau government spokespeople insisted. World oil prices and all that, don't ya know.



Natural Resources Minister Jim Carr insisted "it's not up to me to explain why TransCanada made this decision on the basis of what's in its interest ... Nothing has changed in the government's decision-making process."



That's a laugh.



The Trudeau Liberals have moved the goalposts on TransCanada substantially at least twice in the two years they've been in power.



Back in January 2016, just two months after being sworn in, the Liberals announced that National Energy Board (NEB) pipeline hearings – which at that time already involved months of testimony from hundreds and even thousands of witnesses – would be made even more complex and drawn out. Later they announced the timeline would be changed from 18 months to three years.



Then just this past August, the NEB announced that during their review of Energy East, they intended to hold TransCanada to account for all greenhouse emissions created by the fossil fuels that travelled through the 4,500-kilometre line, which would have had a 1.1-million-barrel-a-day capacity.



Typically, enviro reviews of pipelines take into account the emissions caused by building and operating the line. But the new Liberal NEB intended to hold TransCanada accountable for the emissions caused by extracting the oil from the ground and from consuming it after it exited Energy East – even if it was first put on a tanker and consumed somewhere overseas.



That doesn't sound as if "nothing has changed," as Carr insisted Thursday.



The Liberals, and especially Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, have also been extremely vague about whether they support Energy East. That too has caused investors to get skittish.



Trudeau has refused to engage Quebec politicians, such as Montreal Mayor Denis Coderre, when they have made outrageous accusations against the pipeline. An "expert" panel appointed by the Liberals recommended moving the hearings side of the NEB out of Calgary to Ottawa (a move that was later rejected) and Trudeau has repeatedly refused to explain what he considers adequate consultation with First Nations.



All that uncertainty, plus significant tax changes on oil and gas exploration contained in the Liberals' 2017 budget, is likely what caused TransCanada to throw up its hands and shut down Energy East.



If this were just a "business decision" based on a soft world oil market, how come TransCanada is continuing with other pipeline projects in other countries, such as the Grand Rapids Pipeline in the States?



World oil prices are the same everywhere. All that's different is the anti-oil atmosphere in Canada.



If TransCanada's decision is based on business factors, it is the federal government that changed the factors.




It's also not too much of a stretch to wonder whether this isn't what the Trudeau Liberals wanted all along, because it saves them from having to make voters and politicians in Quebec unhappy.



It's also interesting that our own Premier Rachel Notley's first instinct was the same as the federal Liberals' – blame this entirely on business. In her official statement she never once even hinted that Trudeau and the Liberals had a hand in it.



The Energy East cancellation, though, must put an end to Notley's "social licence" fantasy. Spending billions on "green" energy and forcing the shutdown of coal power has done nothing — nothing! — to get pipelines built, which was the original whole goal.



All the carbon tax and billions in green spending has done is drive more Albertans out of work and dive our treasury deeper into debt
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