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Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured

Started by cc, November 05, 2017, 03:44:19 PM

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More than 20 people have been killed following a mass shooting at a church in a small town outside San Antonio, Texas.



 KSAT News reports that an as-of-yet unidentified gunman walked into First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas at about 11:30 am on Sunday morning and began shooting.



CNN reports that the gunman was killed after a chase with police into a neighboring county, but its not clear if he was killed by police of killed himself.



Not sure of all details - story has changed somewhat from earlier with regard to numbers & how shooter died
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At least 27 people have been killed following a mass shooting at a church in a small town outside San Antonio, Texas. At about 10:30 am Sunday, an as-of-yet unidentified gunman walked into First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas and began shooting.



The precise number of dead and wounded remains unclear, but Wilson County commissioner Albert Gamez Jr. has told news organizations that a least 27 people were killed. It seems that at least a dozen people were also injured in the attack. It appears that children were among the victims.



A KSAT journalist reported that neighbors told him that it sounded as though the gunman had reloaded multiple times, and that around 50 people may have been attending the service that was underway at the time of the attack.
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Anonymous

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At least 27 people have been killed following a mass shooting at a church in a small town outside San Antonio, Texas. At about 10:30 am Sunday, an as-of-yet unidentified gunman walked into First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas and began shooting.



The precise number of dead and wounded remains unclear, but Wilson County commissioner Albert Gamez Jr. has told news organizations that a least 27 people were killed. It seems that at least a dozen people were also injured in the attack. It appears that children were among the victims.



A KSAT journalist reported that neighbors told him that it sounded as though the gunman had reloaded multiple times, and that around 50 people may have been attending the service that was underway at the time of the attack.

It doesn't matter the motive, he'll be classified as a right wing domestic terrorist.

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At least 27 people have been killed following a mass shooting at a church in a small town outside San Antonio, Texas. At about 10:30 am Sunday, an as-of-yet unidentified gunman walked into First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas and began shooting.



The precise number of dead and wounded remains unclear, but Wilson County commissioner Albert Gamez Jr. has told news organizations that a least 27 people were killed. It seems that at least a dozen people were also injured in the attack. It appears that children were among the victims.



A KSAT journalist reported that neighbors told him that it sounded as though the gunman had reloaded multiple times, and that around 50 people may have been attending the service that was underway at the time of the attack.

It doesn't matter the motive, he'll be classified as a right wing domestic terrorist.

There will be people who politicize tragedies to suit their agendas..



This a horrendous and my heart pains for the victims and their loved ones.


Angry White Male


Anonymous

I haven't seen any new information about the shooter or motive.

cc

Several photos show almost all whites outside of church. Looks like typical small town folk.



Somewhat .. well sort of ..  used to studying into tragedies, but I can't get this one out of my mind
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: "cc"Several photos show almost all whites outside of church. Looks like typical small town folk.



Somewhat .. well sort of ..  used to studying into tragedies, but I can't get this one out of my mind

Any word who the shooter was and their motive cc?

cc

"dishonorable" discharge from Air Force ... lived 30 miles away so not current local resident



Again, facts all new so take with grain of salt until solidified



No motive mentioned so far
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cc

Devin Kelley .. found dead in vehicle nearby ... don't know if cop, self or a good guy with a gun who chased him



There was word of someone chasing him out of church



"dishonorable" discharge often means no "legal" right to guns



(again, early reporting)
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Anonymous

Quote from: "cc"Devin Kelley .. found dead in vehicle nearby ... don't know if cop, self or a good guy with a gun who chased him



There was word of someone chasing him out of church



"dishonorable" discharge often means no "legal" right to guns



(again, early reporting)

I was just watching CBC news cc..



He died after being ran off the road by someone..



Still no word about motive.

cc

Yes. A story that someone wit ha gun and another person chased him by vehicle and he crashed



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From "Heavy.com" .. a place I often use in the early going - it is usually quite reliable in assembling and filtering info from all major sources



They always do a https://heavy.com/news/2017/11/devin-kelley-p-sutherland-springs-church-shooter-patrick-kelly/">"5 Fast Facts You Need to Know"



Here's an unnerving facebook image (internet stuff now taken down)



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Devin Kelley's LinkedIn page says that he was a VBS "teacher aid (sic)" for "VBS AT KINGSVILLE FBC" and notes, "Dates volunteered Jun 2013 – Jun 2013 Volunteer duration 1 mo. Cause Children. Teaching children ages 4-6 at vocational bible schools helping their minds grow and prosper."



However, multiple children are reportedly among those shot in the church.



Kelley's Facebook page also showed that he had liked pages devoted to atheism, as well as those on German Shepherds, Glocks, and karate. As causes on LinkedIn, he indicated he cared about civil rights and social action, animal welfare, children, arts and culture, the environment, health, and human rights.



Despite rumors on social media, there is no evidence that he was a member of Antifa or carried out the attack on behalf of the far left group. There is also no evidence he converted to Islam and was a practicing Muslim, as other social media rumors have claimed. Although he liked multiple atheist-related pages on Facebook, it is not known if he considered himself to be an atheist or was simply interested in it. Some doctored photos have circulated on social media, and people identified the wrong people as suspects early on.
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

cc

For what it's worth - sounds quite detailed & straight



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This seems to work without tags - When I add "video" tags, not working
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell