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Iowa Grants Gun Permits to the Blind

Started by realgrimm, February 26, 2018, 04:08:24 PM

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Frood

Not good enough, Bricktop.



It's not up to authority junkies to decide who can defend themselves, who can target shoot at a range, and who has to die waiting 5-10 minutes so coward police officers like the ones in Broward County can show up and do nothing.
Blahhhhhh...

Anonymous

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QuoteWarren Wethington, who demonstrated for The Des Moines Register how blind people can be taught to shoot guns. And Jane Hudson, executive director of Disability Rights Iowa, who says blocking visually impaired people from the right to obtain weapon permits would violate the Americans with Disabilities Act. That federal law generally prohibits different treatment based on disabilities




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Why not let the blind drive semis too.

Frood

With technology who knows what the blind can't do, Seoulbro.
Blahhhhhh...

Bricktop

Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Not good enough, Bricktop.



It's not up to authority junkies to decide who can defend themselves, who can target shoot at a range, and who has to die waiting 5-10 minutes so coward police officers like the ones in Broward County can show up and do nothing.


Whether or not you think its "good enough", it is exactly up to authorities to best determine who, and under what circumstances, can a gun be carried, used or possessed.



Otherwise we end up like America, an example you are consistently and notably silent on.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"With technology who knows what the blind can't do, Seoulbro.

I suppose if driverless commercial vehicles become a reality. But, for liability reasons, I don't see that happening.

Bricktop

Driverless vehicles are decades away...if they in fact arrive at all.



Despite all the hype manufactured by vested interests, the change from driver to driverless is a massive undertaking that requires major and costly changes to infrastructure, law, and vehicle safety.



Its a niche technology, that will in all likelihood go nowhere.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"Driverless vehicles are decades away...if they in fact arrive at all.

I couldn't agree more.

Anonymous

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QuoteWarren Wethington, who demonstrated for The Des Moines Register how blind people can be taught to shoot guns. And Jane Hudson, executive director of Disability Rights Iowa, who says blocking visually impaired people from the right to obtain weapon permits would violate the Americans with Disabilities Act. That federal law generally prohibits different treatment based on disabilities




https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/08/iowa-grants-gun-permits-to-the-blind/2780303/">//https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/08/iowa-grants-gun-permits-to-the-blind/2780303/

If they have people with them when they shoot, it's not a safety problem.

Frood

Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Not good enough, Bricktop.



It's not up to authority junkies to decide who can defend themselves, who can target shoot at a range, and who has to die waiting 5-10 minutes so coward police officers like the ones in Broward County can show up and do nothing.


Whether or not you think its "good enough", it is exactly up to authorities to best determine who, and under what circumstances, can a gun be carried, used or possessed.



Otherwise we end up like America, an example you are consistently and notably silent on.


Does Big Daddy Gubmint taste creamy on your lips, you mewling little yes man.
Blahhhhhh...

Wazzzup

Quote from: "Blazor"I have mixed feelings on this one.



I was taught in gun safety class, that you are always to be sure of what you are firing at, and whats behind it. I also believe some folks have various levels of blindness, and some have extremely good hearing. To say all blind people should not have a firearm is a bit of a stretch, some indeed should still have that right if they want. If so, they should also first be run through a safety course, and another specializing with visual impairment. Only if they pass the courses could they obtain. As a matter of fact, EVERYONE should take a gun safety class before they ever handle a gun. Unless of course a good father figure shows their son proper gun safety, then sends him to the course for a completion certificate.

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Good post.  I would just add I had a relative who was blind, and I think many people don't realize how incredibly vulnerable blind people feel.  Living in the dark or near darkness, a burglar could stand right in front of them and they might not even know it.  If there is any way they can feel safer (and of course be safe for others) I would want to indulge them if possible.

Bricktop

Seriously?



A robber stands in front of a person holding a gun. It doesn't need an ophthalmologist to deduce that the person is blind.



Simply strike the victim on the hand..or head...and the gun changes partners.



Jesus...you people are BLIND.

Anonymous

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QuoteWarren Wethington, who demonstrated for The Des Moines Register how blind people can be taught to shoot guns. And Jane Hudson, executive director of Disability Rights Iowa, who says blocking visually impaired people from the right to obtain weapon permits would violate the Americans with Disabilities Act. That federal law generally prohibits different treatment based on disabilities




https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/08/iowa-grants-gun-permits-to-the-blind/2780303/">//https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/08/iowa-grants-gun-permits-to-the-blind/2780303/

If they have people with them when they shoot, it's not a safety problem.

Do you mean supervised target practice in a safe area?

Blazor

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Jesus...you people are BLIND.


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Anonymous

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Jesus...you people are BLIND.


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Angry White Male

I'm trying to think how Canada would handle licencing for a blind individual...



I've never thought of this before.



You have to take a test and fill out a form, but perhaps you can get assistance if you're disabled, with those forms.



Honestly, I bet they couldn't deny the blind firearms ownership here, as long as their record is clean of violent offenses and psychiatric issues.