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Chinese shouldn't vote for the NDP

Started by Rambo Wong, October 04, 2012, 03:41:32 PM

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Rambo Wong

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2012/10/04/ndp-presses-feds-to-reject-chinese-takeover-of-nexen">http://www.edmontonsun.com/2012/10/04/n ... r-of-nexen">http://www.edmontonsun.com/2012/10/04/ndp-presses-feds-to-reject-chinese-takeover-of-nexen



      The NDP is trying to keep China from participating in a free market is racism. Are they going to impose a headtax if they get in ? Chinese voters must protest this unfair transaction.

Rambo Wong

http://www.china.uqam.ca/spip.php?article108">http://www.china.uqam.ca/spip.php?article108



    Canada should welcome Chinese investment. Here is a far more rational view.Rather than limiting our economic interactions with China out of fear or Sinophobia, we should be confidently encouraging the Chinese enterprises, state-owned or private, to invest more in Canada while making efforts to make our own companies competitive in the Chinese market, hopefully protected by FIPA once it is approved. More Chinese investment in Canada and other well regulated democratic countries will in fact lead to reduced Chinese FDI in countries that are considered a security threat to the global community.



We can also work with the Chinese ventures in Canada with a "demonstration effect," that is to showcase how transparency, rule of law, environmentally friendly practices can be implemented in China for its own long-term growth and prosperity.



The real challenge is not that we have too much Chinese investment but too little. The signing of FIPA is only a baby step forward given the huge potential of bilateral co-operation in many fields

Romero

Canada shouldn't allow the takeover. CNOOC is state-owned and that gives it an unfair advantage.

Frost

Fair trade is alright until another country controls to much, then it's a security risk, and can be used for leverage, or worse.

Frost

Trolls are alright, you just need to feed them the right diet of words  :)

What i said is true so no harm.

Rambo Wong

Quote from: "Romero"Canada shouldn't allow the takeover. CNOOC is state-owned and that gives it an unfair advantage.






   Romero/Chris Patton/Gary Oak/Conan Doyle is a tacist twirlybrain nutcase  sinophobic antisemitic anti catholic choking the chicken stupid retard moronic crap'ndrool who thinks that AIDS is a man made disease and 9/11 was an inside job because he is a racist twirlybrain nutcase antisemitic anti catholic sinophobic stupid choking the chicken moronic crap'ndrool

Rambo Wong

Shen Li you should stay away from the big caucs. Don't you care about your Chinese heritage ?

Rambo Wong

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DocWatson/Gary Oak/Chris Patton/Conan Doyle is just a stupid whacko racist moron nutcase twirlybrain antisemitic anticatholic sinophobic choking the chicken crap'n drool who thinks that 9/11 was an inside job and the AIDS is a man made disease because he is just a racist whacko stupid nutcase twirlybrain antisemitic anticatholic sinophobic choking the chicken crap'ndrool

Obvious Li

Quote from: "Rambo Wong"
Quote from: "Romero"Canada shouldn't allow the takeover. CNOOC is state-owned and that gives it an unfair advantage.






   Romero/Chris Patton/Gary Oak/Conan Doyle is a racist twirlybrain nutcase  sinophobic antisemitic anti catholic choking the chicken stupid retard moronic crap'ndrool who thinks that AIDS is a man made disease and 9/11 was an inside job because he is a racist twirlybrain nutcase antisemitic anti catholic sinophobic stupid choking the chicken moronic crap'ndrool


Yep....that pretty much describes Homero hehehehehe@lololol.com

Rambo Wong

I recieved this email from a racist twirlybrain Canadian crap'n drool party who is racist against the Chinese people coming to Canada. Why don't they just start another head tax. Chinese people have just as much right to Canada as white people





Wow, what an amazing response! We've already raised over $100,000 towards the appeal fund, and we've just been told the appeal can still be filed on Monday, giving us two more vital days to reach our goal, but we're running out of time.



Rambo, from coast to coast to coast, Canadians like you are digging deep to make the appeal happen. Can you chip in just $3 right now to help us reach our goal and fully fund the appeal?



Here's the email...





----- Original Message -----



Dear Rambo,





The Hupacasath First Nation are ready to take their historic legal challenge against the Canada-China FIPA to the next level, but they can't do it alone. We need to raise $300,000 to make it happen.



We have under 48 hours before the next court deadline, but if everyone like you who has spoken out against FIPA before gives just $3, we can reach our goal.



Can you chip in at least $3 right now to help fund this vital appeal?

 



We're writing today with an urgent update about the Canada-China FIPA investor deal.



Earlier this year the Hupacasath First Nation took the Harper government to court to challenge FIPA - a reckless investor deal that would expose Canada to unlimited risk from costly lawsuits in secretive tribunals and undermine the rights of our democratically elected governments for the next 31 years.1



Thanks to the generous donations from thousands of Canadian individuals and organizations, the Hupacasath's legal team were able to take their case in federal court in Vancouver on June 5th-7th.



Unfortunately, the judge sided with the government. Incredibly, the judge said that he considered the Hupacasath's expert witness, internationally renowned Canadian professor Gus Van Harten, to be biased, and discounted his testimony. Instead the judge chose to base his decision on testimony from the government's witness, an investor-state arbitrator.2-4



Grand Chief Stewart Phillip, President of the Union of BC Indian Chiefs, responded swiftly to say that the ruling was "absurd" given the obvious impacts of the FIPA on First Nations rights and title, and the complete lack of constitutionally guaranteed consultation from the federal government.3



The good news is this legal battle isn't over yet. The Hupacasath's lawyers believe they have grounds for an appeal, and the Hupacasath are prepared to take this case to the next level.



The Hupacasath are ready to stand up for all of us, but they can't do it alone - especially now that the Harper Conservatives have asked the courts to force the Hupacasath to pay over $100,000 in costs for the government's legal team and expert witnesses.



Historically, Canadians have not been forced to pay the government's costs in constitutional challenges where the public interest is at stake. What does it say about the state of our democracy that our government would refuse to bring a sweeping investor agreement before Parliament, and then force Canadians to pay punitive legal fees for challenging them in court?



The Hupacasath are refusing to be intimidated by this new hurdle. Their band council has agreed to appeal the judge's ruling, but the appeal can only go forward if we can raise $300,000 to pay the costs and legal fees before Monday, September 30th to meet the strict deadline for filing an appeal.



Over 6,000 people have already donated for this legal challenge, and if we all give just $3 today we can cover the costs and fully fund the appeal immediately. Please click here to make a secure donation of $3 or more to the legal fund.



If we can raise $110,000, we can cover the draconian fee that the government has imposed on the Hupacasath.



If we can raise $300,000 by September 30th then we can fully fund an appeal, ensure the Hupacasath will not be saddled with debt, and take the fight to the next level.



If we raise more than $110,000, but less than $300,000, the remaining money will go to turn up the pressure in key Conservative MP ridings.



We can do amazing things when we stand together. By sharing the load, Canadians from coast to coast to coast already raised well over $150,000 to cover the costs of the initial legal challenge.



Now, it's up to you to decide whether or not this appeal will go forward. Please click here to make a secure donation now.



When this fight to stop FIPA started a year ago no one would have ever thought that we would get this far. From the beginning, we've had a two part strategy of challenging this FIPA in the courts while putting pressure on Conservative MPs to stop this reckless investor deal - and it's succeeded beyond anyone's expectations.



The legal challenge from this small 300 person First Nation has successfully delayed ratification of the Canada-China FIPA and raised awareness across Canada. They've taken on this David and Goliath battle to defend their own rights and title and to defend the rights and interests of all Canadians.



Can you chip in $3 or more today? Please click here to make a secure donation to the legal fund:



http://leadnow.ca/fipa-legal">http://leadnow.ca/fipa-legal



Thanks for all you do.



With hope and respect,



Matthew, Stefan, Cam, Jamie and Julia on behalf of the Leadnow.ca team



p.s. We understand that not everyone can donate. If you're not in a position to contribute to this legal challenge, please just take a minute to forward this message to friends and family who may be able to help. Here's the link to share -- http://www.leadnow.ca/fipa-legal">http://www.leadnow.ca/fipa-legal -- and thank you for all that you do.



p.p.s. If you'd like to donate by cheque, send your cheque payable to "Leadnow" to:



Leadnow.ca

PO Box 2091, Stn Terminal

Vancouver, BC

V6B 3T2



(Please include a note so that we know your donation is for the FIPA legal challenge.)



Or if you'd prefer to donate by phone, call 1-855-LEADN0W (1‑855‑532‑3609) extension 2.



Further reading:



This statement from Grand Chief Stewart Phillip, President of the Union of BC Indian Chiefs, covers some of the central problems with the judge's ruling:





"The Union of BC Indian Chiefs refuse to accept the Government of Canada's argument that there is no 'causal link' or 'potential adverse impacts' on our constitutionally-enshrined and judicially-recognized Aboriginal rights and the ratification of FIPA. The Court wholeheartedly accepted Canada's argument. First Nations leadership across this country are facing a federal government who stated in court that they do not need to nor ever intend to ever consult any First Nation regarding any trade agreement. The Court responded this total lack of consultation 'would not contravene the principle of the honour of the Crown or Canada's duty to consult' That is absurd, unconscionable and incredibly offensive,"



Grand Chief Stewart Phillip, President of the Union of BC Indian Chiefs.2





Sources:



[1] Our old campaign page contains extensive background on the Canada-China FIPA: http://www.leadnow.ca/stop-fipa">http://www.leadnow.ca/stop-fipa



[2] Bio: Gus Van Harten, Osgoode Law Schoool

http://www.osgoode.yorku.ca/faculty/full-time/gus-van-harten">http://www.osgoode.yorku.ca/faculty/ful ... van-harten">http://www.osgoode.yorku.ca/faculty/full-time/gus-van-harten



[3] Judge's decision, Hupacasath First Nation v the Minister of Foreign Affairs and the Attorney General of Canada.

">http://cas-ncr-nter03.cas-satj.gc.ca/rs ... h%20En.pdf">




[4] Bio: J. Christopher Thomas, National University of Singapore

http://cil.nus.edu.sg/about-2/cil-team-2/christopher-thomas/">http://cil.nus.edu.sg/about-2/cil-team- ... er-thomas/">http://cil.nus.edu.sg/about-2/cil-team-2/christopher-thomas/



[5] Hupacasath Disappointed with Federal Judicial Review of Canada-China FIPA: http://www.ubcic.bc.ca/News_Releases/UBCICNews08271301.html">http://www.ubcic.bc.ca/News_Releases/UB ... 71301.html">http://www.ubcic.bc.ca/News_Releases/UBCICNews08271301.html



[6] Photo credit: Gary McNutt, 2013.





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