Christian Corner

[Obvious Li]

Funerals are a business in Taiwan too Mr. Obvious Li..



I don't understand what you mean about churches being a huge moneymaking scam?

when i was there it seemed like every week there was another story in the papers about some church pastor or priest ripping off millions of dollars from a congregation or selling church property to real estate developers and pocketing the money.....believe me wherever there is money in Korea there is a scam artist working on stealing it.....strangest place i've ever seen......even though these people must know they will get caught they just can't help stealing....a friend and i went to a wine bar and drank a few bottles of nectar....he paid with his credit card.....once the transaction was approved the owner put through another 12 transactions totaling 20K on his card..........he kept billing until the card was maxed.....using his merchant number etc......i had 4k put on mine at one bar.....WTF they know the police will get them but they can't help themselves...dishonesty is part of the culture...seems like a huge generalization i know.....but it happened soooo often to me over there.....from everyone

I don't understand that Mr. Obvious Li?



My pastor cannot sell any church property without approval from the church members..



We have a secretary, treasurer, auditor and a financial report issued quarterly..



Financial impropriety would be nearly impossible without someone catching it.

remember Korea was occupied until 1953 and then was occupied by the USA so the western concept of protestant churches is new....over there lots of people started their own churches and own the buildings, land etc.......worth millions of dollars...they live like kings

[Anonymous]

when i was there it seemed like every week there was another story in the papers about some church pastor or priest ripping off millions of dollars from a congregation or selling church property to real estate developers and pocketing the money.....believe me wherever there is money in Korea there is a scam artist working on stealing it.....strangest place i've ever seen......even though these people must know they will get caught they just can't help stealing....a friend and i went to a wine bar and drank a few bottles of nectar....he paid with his credit card.....once the transaction was approved the owner put through another 12 transactions totaling 20K on his card..........he kept billing until the card was maxed.....using his merchant number etc......i had 4k put on mine at one bar.....WTF they know the police will get them but they can't help themselves...dishonesty is part of the culture...seems like a huge generalization i know.....but it happened soooo often to me over there.....from everyone

I don't understand that Mr. Obvious Li?



My pastor cannot sell any church property without approval from the church members..



We have a secretary, treasurer, auditor and a financial report issued quarterly..



Financial impropriety would be nearly impossible without someone catching it.

remember Korea was occupied until 1953 and then was occupied by the USA so the western concept of protestant churches is new....over there lots of people started their own churches and own the buildings, land etc.......worth millions of dollars...they live like kings

That is very different from anything I have known in Calgary or Taiwan.

[Odinson]

Our lutherin church is losing its supporters by the masses because of the moronic comments made by one of politicians.

The head of the christian-democratic party is a woman and she continuously keeps making stupid comments... The latest one was that people should follow the bible rather than our laws.



If you follow the bible (I mean the whole thing) literally, this land is going turn into obressive woman hating moslim land.

And she said also that the bible forbids homosexuals. Some1 followed her with a comment that bible also forbids long hair on men. Her son has a long curly hair.



And one of her minions said that we should not join religion and politics... Ummm "CHRISTIAN-DEMOCRATS".



This is woman is the minister of interior and head of the police force. She used her power to start an investigation on her woman friends daughters stolen bicycle. Bikes are stolen all the time and the police has better things to do. That is corruption in my opinion.



Our church is wealthy and yet very little of it goes to actually being a good christian and helping people.

[Anonymous]

Our lutherin church is losing its supporters by the masses because of the moronic comments made by one of politicians.

The head of the christian-democratic party is a woman and she continuously keeps making stupid comments... The latest one was that people should follow the bible rather than our laws.



If you follow the bible (I mean the whole thing) literally, this land is going turn into obressive woman hating moslim land.

And she said also that the bible forbids homosexuals. Some1 followed her with a comment that bible also forbids long hair on men. Her son has a long curly hair.



And one of her minions said that we should not join religion and politics... Ummm "CHRISTIAN-DEMOCRATS".



This is woman is the minister of interior and head of the police force. She used her power to start an investigation on her woman friends daughters stolen bicycle. Bikes are stolen all the time and the police has better things to do. That is corruption in my opinion.



Our church is wealthy and yet very little of it goes to actually being a good christian and helping people.

It scares the hell out of me when people use religion to further their own fucking agendas.

[Odinson]

And the pope... I don´t like a man whom thinks himself as a second man to god.



My uncle said "I don´t think god really cares whether we belong to a pile of stones or not". He is kinda of a forest-finnish and likes spending his time in the woods. He wears old military field-outfit all the time.

[Anonymous]

And the pope... I don´t like a man whom thinks himself as a second man to god.



My uncle said "I don´t think god really cares whether we belong to a pile of stones or not". He is kinda of a forest-finnish and likes spending his time in the woods. He wears old military field-outfit all the time.

The Catholic church is irrelevant in the West and becoming that way in Latin America.

[Odinson]

Our lutherin church is losing its supporters by the masses because of the moronic comments made by one of politicians.

The head of the christian-democratic party is a woman and she continuously keeps making stupid comments... The latest one was that people should follow the bible rather than our laws.



If you follow the bible (I mean the whole thing) literally, this land is going turn into obressive woman hating moslim land.

And she said also that the bible forbids homosexuals. Some1 followed her with a comment that bible also forbids long hair on men. Her son has a long curly hair.



And one of her minions said that we should not join religion and politics... Ummm "CHRISTIAN-DEMOCRATS".



This is woman is the minister of interior and head of the police force. She used her power to start an investigation on her woman friends daughters stolen bicycle. Bikes are stolen all the time and the police has better things to do. That is corruption in my opinion.



Our church is wealthy and yet very little of it goes to actually being a good christian and helping people.

It scares the hell out of me when people use religion to further their own fucking agendas.

The bible teaches greed is a sin. Trying to gain power by chasing the minister position or a bishops position is greed and therefor a sin in my opinion.

Catholic church is full of pedophiles and the leaders are living in great wealth.

[Anonymous]

Our lutherin church is losing its supporters by the masses because of the moronic comments made by one of politicians.

The head of the christian-democratic party is a woman and she continuously keeps making stupid comments... The latest one was that people should follow the bible rather than our laws.



If you follow the bible (I mean the whole thing) literally, this land is going turn into obressive woman hating moslim land.

And she said also that the bible forbids homosexuals. Some1 followed her with a comment that bible also forbids long hair on men. Her son has a long curly hair.



And one of her minions said that we should not join religion and politics... Ummm "CHRISTIAN-DEMOCRATS".



This is woman is the minister of interior and head of the police force. She used her power to start an investigation on her woman friends daughters stolen bicycle. Bikes are stolen all the time and the police has better things to do. That is corruption in my opinion.



Our church is wealthy and yet very little of it goes to actually being a good christian and helping people.

It scares the hell out of me when people use religion to further their own fucking agendas.

The bible teaches greed is a sin. Trying to gain power by chasing the minister position or a bishops position is greed and therefor a sin in my opinion.

Catholic church is full of pedophiles and the leaders are living in great wealth.

It's one sick institution IMHO.

[Odinson]

And the pope... I don´t like a man whom thinks himself as a second man to god.



My uncle said "I don´t think god really cares whether we belong to a pile of stones or not". He is kinda of a forest-finnish and likes spending his time in the woods. He wears old military field-outfit all the time.

The Catholic church is irrelevant in the West and becoming that way in Latin America.

It still has over a billion followers.



Every year the vatican fills up with millions of followers whom bow down to the pope.

I don´t know why they are showing that drooling old man in our TV. We are protestants so we hate the pope.

[Green_Hornet]

Good luck with that because you will need it..

Nobody takes anyone as mentally ill as you are seriously.

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Some bible quotes about your continuous spam lying Fashionista:

 Proverbs 19:5

A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who breathes out lies will not escape.



 Proverbs 12:22

Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord, but those who act faithfully are his delight.



 Psalm 58:3

The wicked are estranged from the womb; they go astray from birth, speaking lies.

[Odinson]

Good luck with that because you will need it..

Nobody takes anyone as mentally ill as you are seriously.

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Some bible quotes about your continuous spam lying Fashionista:

 Proverbs 19:5

A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who breathes out lies will not escape.



 Proverbs 12:22

Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord, but those who act faithfully are his delight.



 Psalm 58:3

The wicked are estranged from the womb; they go astray from birth, speaking lies.

What the...

That´s all I need to say.

[Anonymous]

Good luck with that because you will need it..

Nobody takes anyone as mentally ill as you are seriously.

http://memebee.com/asiancanadian/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=859&p=16681&hilit=mentally#p16681">http://memebee.com/asiancanadian/viewto ... lly#p16681">http://memebee.com/asiancanadian/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=859&p=16681&hilit=mentally#p16681

Some bible quotes about your continuous spam lying Fashionista:

 Proverbs 19:5

A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who breathes out lies will not escape.



 Proverbs 12:22

Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord, but those who act faithfully are his delight.



 Psalm 58:3

The wicked are estranged from the womb; they go astray from birth, speaking lies.

I wish I wish I was wrong Green_Hornet, but you you desparately need psychological counselling and medication.

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You make it difficult, but we are commanded to not only love those that love us first.



2 Timothy 2:23-26 ESV

Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels. And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth, and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will.

[Anonymous]

Good luck with that because you will need it..

Nobody takes anyone as mentally ill as you are seriously.

http://memebee.com/asiancanadian/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=859&p=16681&hilit=mentally#p16681">http://memebee.com/asiancanadian/viewto ... lly#p16681">http://memebee.com/asiancanadian/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=859&p=16681&hilit=mentally#p16681

Some bible quotes about your continuous spam lying Fashionista:

 Proverbs 19:5

A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who breathes out lies will not escape.



 Proverbs 12:22

Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord, but those who act faithfully are his delight.



 Psalm 58:3

The wicked are estranged from the womb; they go astray from birth, speaking lies.

I wish I wish I was wrong Green_Hornet, but you you desparately need psychological counselling and medication.

http://memebee.com/asiancanadian/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=859">http://memebee.com/asiancanadian/viewto ... ?f=2&t=859">http://memebee.com/asiancanadian/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=859



You make it difficult, but we are commanded to not only love those that love us first.



2 Timothy 2:23-26 ESV

Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels. And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth, and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will.

This whole thread reminds me of story of Paul.



"I received mercy for this reason, that in me, as the foremost, Jesus Christ might display his perfect patience as an example to those who were to believe in him for eternal life." (1 Timothy 1:16)



Jesus Said: Keep the Sabbath (Mark 2:27), circumcise male children (Luke 2:21), Paul Said: Circumcision is not necessary (Romans 2:26) that is going against what the Christ said in Luke 2:21.

[Anonymous]

Some bible quotes about your continuous spam lying Fashionista:

 Proverbs 19:5

A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who breathes out lies will not escape.



 Proverbs 12:22

Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord, but those who act faithfully are his delight.



 Psalm 58:3

The wicked are estranged from the womb; they go astray from birth, speaking lies.

I wish I wish I was wrong Green_Hornet, but you you desparately need psychological counselling and medication.

http://memebee.com/asiancanadian/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=859">http://memebee.com/asiancanadian/viewto ... ?f=2&t=859">http://memebee.com/asiancanadian/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=859



You make it difficult, but we are commanded to not only love those that love us first.



2 Timothy 2:23-26 ESV

Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels. And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth, and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will.

This whole thread reminds me of story of Paul.



"I received mercy for this reason, that in me, as the foremost, Jesus Christ might display his perfect patience as an example to those who were to believe in him for eternal life." (1 Timothy 1:16)



Jesus Said: Keep the Sabbath (Mark 2:27), circumcise male children (Luke 2:21), Paul Said: Circumcision is not necessary (Romans 2:26) that is going against what the Christ said in Luke 2:21.

Hello Charles and welcome..

 :)

If you keep reading you will find:

And when they had performed all things according to the law of the Lord, they returned into Galilee, to their own city Nazareth.

Luke 2:39



As we all know, the applicable law of the Lord at the time of Jesus's birth was the Old Testament..



We find the applicable law here:

9 And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep my covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations.

10 This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.

11 And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you.

12 And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed.

13 He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant.

14 And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.

Genesis 17:9-14



If Jesus had not been circumcised, he would have broken God's covenant..



This would have cast him out from the people and he would not have been seen as the Messiah..



I hope this helps to explain it for you Charles.

[Anonymous]

Today's sermon was love must be sincere with  Romans 12:9-12:13 as reference..



If we want to learn how to love people we just need to read about the life of Christ in the gospel accounts..



If all people of the world would just look to Jesus they would know what genuine love is and also know how to demonstrate it.