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We blame Trump, but Canada's supply management system hurts the poor

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Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "JOE"Yes Fashionista, there was a time when various governments cut back on food inspectors and look what happened. While this occurred during the Harper years, Im sure it also did under the Liberals during Chretien/Martin as they were cost cutting as well. So I'd wager bothparties may have been responsible for the problem as they ket food quslity standards slide.

Actually, some of those recalls happened under the current government..



In fact, if you look at the government's website several food recalls still happen every month.



http://www.inspection.gc.ca/about-the-cfia/newsroom/food-recall-warnings/eng/1299076382077/1299076493846">http://www.inspection.gc.ca/about-the-c ... 9076493846">http://www.inspection.gc.ca/about-the-cfia/newsroom/food-recall-warnings/eng/1299076382077/1299076493846

You go girl. :thumbup:

Anonymous

Canada is tied for 25th in the world for food safety ccording to the international advocacy confederation Oxfam.



1. Netherlands



2. France and Switzerland (two-way tie)



4. Denmark, Sweden, Austria and Belgium (four-way tie)



8. Ireland, Italy, Portugal, Luxembourg and Australia (five-way tie)



13. Spain, Greece, Germany, United Kingdom, Norway, Finland, Cyprus and Iceland (eight-way tie)



21. United States and Japan (two-way tie)



23. New Zealand and Israel (two-way tie)



25. Canada, Brazil, Estonia, Slovakia and Hungary (five-way tie)

http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2014/01/u-s-places-21st-in-ranking-of-world-food-systems/#.WyLpdegvzrd">http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2014/01/u ... yLpdegvzrd">http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2014/01/u-s-places-21st-in-ranking-of-world-food-systems/#.WyLpdegvzrd



The anti resource development gang likes to say it's not if, but when pipelines leak, so we can't build them. Using that logic we should shut down our entire ag processing industry as it's not a matter of if, but when food is recalled because of contamination.

JOE

Yeah I'm open to buying foods for First World European nations.



They have high health and inspection standards.



I somewhat believe that list.



I buy German beer all the time. Dutch chocolate is pretty high end.



Europeans also put a ban on GMO products.



It's just when I see packaged foods from Asia, like 'Made in China' or 'This Fish Packaged in Thailand' that I stay away from those products. I never buy or rarely consume candies made in China because of past news reports that they were sticking chemicals in them.  I guess that's somewhat discriminatory. Even Eastern Europe or the Middle East is somewhat problematic.


Quote from: "seoulbro"Canada is tied for 25th in the world for food safety ccording to the international advocacy confederation Oxfam.



1. Netherlands



2. France and Switzerland (two-way tie)



4. Denmark, Sweden, Austria and Belgium (four-way tie)



8. Ireland, Italy, Portugal, Luxembourg and Australia (five-way tie)



13. Spain, Greece, Germany, United Kingdom, Norway, Finland, Cyprus and Iceland (eight-way tie)



21. United States and Japan (two-way tie)



23. New Zealand and Israel (two-way tie)



25. Canada, Brazil, Estonia, Slovakia and Hungary (five-way tie)

http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2014/01/u-s-places-21st-in-ranking-of-world-food-systems/#.WyLpdegvzrd">http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2014/01/u ... yLpdegvzrd">http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2014/01/u-s-places-21st-in-ranking-of-world-food-systems/#.WyLpdegvzrd



The anti resource development gang likes to say it's not if, but when pipelines leak, so we can't build them. Using that logic we should shut down our entire ag processing industry as it's not a matter of if, but when food is recalled because of contamination.

Anonymous

Quote from: "seoulbro"Canada is tied for 25th in the world for food safety ccording to the international advocacy confederation Oxfam.



1. Netherlands



2. France and Switzerland (two-way tie)



4. Denmark, Sweden, Austria and Belgium (four-way tie)



8. Ireland, Italy, Portugal, Luxembourg and Australia (five-way tie)



13. Spain, Greece, Germany, United Kingdom, Norway, Finland, Cyprus and Iceland (eight-way tie)



21. United States and Japan (two-way tie)



23. New Zealand and Israel (two-way tie)



25. Canada, Brazil, Estonia, Slovakia and Hungary (five-way tie)

http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2014/01/u-s-places-21st-in-ranking-of-world-food-systems/#.WyLpdegvzrd">http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2014/01/u ... yLpdegvzrd">http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2014/01/u-s-places-21st-in-ranking-of-world-food-systems/#.WyLpdegvzrd



The anti resource development gang likes to say it's not if, but when pipelines leak, so we can't build them. Using that logic we should shut down our entire ag processing industry as it's not a matter of if, but when food is recalled because of contamination.

Thanks Seoul..



I have mangos, pineapples, bananas, fish and rice from third world countries..



You can't avoid it nowadays.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "seoulbro"Canada is tied for 25th in the world for food safety ccording to the international advocacy confederation Oxfam.



1. Netherlands



2. France and Switzerland (two-way tie)



4. Denmark, Sweden, Austria and Belgium (four-way tie)



8. Ireland, Italy, Portugal, Luxembourg and Australia (five-way tie)



13. Spain, Greece, Germany, United Kingdom, Norway, Finland, Cyprus and Iceland (eight-way tie)



21. United States and Japan (two-way tie)



23. New Zealand and Israel (two-way tie)



25. Canada, Brazil, Estonia, Slovakia and Hungary (five-way tie)

http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2014/01/u-s-places-21st-in-ranking-of-world-food-systems/#.WyLpdegvzrd">http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2014/01/u ... yLpdegvzrd">http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2014/01/u-s-places-21st-in-ranking-of-world-food-systems/#.WyLpdegvzrd



The anti resource development gang likes to say it's not if, but when pipelines leak, so we can't build them. Using that logic we should shut down our entire ag processing industry as it's not a matter of if, but when food is recalled because of contamination.

Thanks Seoul..



I have mangos, pineapples, bananas, fish and rice from third world countries..



You can't avoid it nowadays.

The global food chain is so intertwined. It has to be to feed over seven billion people.



Continuing to give a special deal to eleven thousand dairy farmers at the expense of 37 million Canadians needs to stop. No leader in Ottawa has the intestinal fortitude to stand up to this tiny, but powerful lobby.

Anonymous

Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "seoulbro"Canada is tied for 25th in the world for food safety ccording to the international advocacy confederation Oxfam.



1. Netherlands



2. France and Switzerland (two-way tie)



4. Denmark, Sweden, Austria and Belgium (four-way tie)



8. Ireland, Italy, Portugal, Luxembourg and Australia (five-way tie)



13. Spain, Greece, Germany, United Kingdom, Norway, Finland, Cyprus and Iceland (eight-way tie)



21. United States and Japan (two-way tie)



23. New Zealand and Israel (two-way tie)



25. Canada, Brazil, Estonia, Slovakia and Hungary (five-way tie)

http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2014/01/u-s-places-21st-in-ranking-of-world-food-systems/#.WyLpdegvzrd">http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2014/01/u ... yLpdegvzrd">http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2014/01/u-s-places-21st-in-ranking-of-world-food-systems/#.WyLpdegvzrd



The anti resource development gang likes to say it's not if, but when pipelines leak, so we can't build them. Using that logic we should shut down our entire ag processing industry as it's not a matter of if, but when food is recalled because of contamination.

Thanks Seoul..



I have mangos, pineapples, bananas, fish and rice from third world countries..



You can't avoid it nowadays.

The global food chain is so intertwined. It has to be to feed over seven billion people.



Continuing to give a special deal to eleven thousand dairy farmers at the expense of 37 million Canadians needs to stop. No leader in Ottawa has the intestinal fortitude to stand up to this tiny, but powerful lobby.

I was watching on the National political panel that this arrangement with our dairy farmers will not be scrapped no matter which party is in power.

Anonymous

I read that fish caught or was it farm raised in Canada is sent to Vietnam for processing and then sent back to Canada. :2r4ml1j_th:

Anonymous

Quote from: "iron horse jockey"I read that fish caught or was it farm raised in Canada is sent to Vietnam for processing and then sent back to Canada. :2r4ml1j_th:

Vietnam is a big exporter of basa to Canada and Australia.

Lance Leftardashian

The working people of Canada need to pay more taxes so that Justin Trudeau will have more money at his disposal to give to the leaders of poor nations around the world.
I care, you pay

Anonymous

Quote from: "Lance Leftardashian"The working people of Canada need to pay more taxes so that Justin Trudeau will have more money at his disposal to give to the leaders of poor nations around the world.

And what will they do with the windfall Canadian taxpayers give them?

Anonymous

Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Lance Leftardashian"The working people of Canada need to pay more taxes so that Justin Trudeau will have more money at his disposal to give to the leaders of poor nations around the world.

And what will they do with the windfall Canadian taxpayers give them?

Ask for more money.

JOE

....Actually, doesn't Canada's Conservative Party Leader Andrew Scheer also support the supply management system? I read somewhere that's how he won the Conservative Party leadership and took votes away from his rival Maxime Bernier:



http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/supply-management-is-the-most-staggeringly-unconservative-thing-the-conservatives-support">http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/sup ... es-support">http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/supply-management-is-the-most-staggeringly-unconservative-thing-the-conservatives-support


Quote from: "seoulbro"Ignorant people blame Trump, but he is not wrong about our archaic supply management system.



From Sun News media.



Hollywood elite Robert De Niro created a lot of buzz at the Tony Awards for telling the world to "F--k Trump," and then got more headlines opening a restaurant in Toronto by apologizing for his president's behaviour. Frankly, we don't give a damn.



De Niro can afford to be a Hollywood elitist because he has more money than he knows what to do with — which is why he is opening another restaurant. We, on the other hand, don't. What we need is a prime minister who does not go out of his way to yank the chain of a mercurial president of the United States who will use any excuse to be offended and therefore derail any hopes of solidifying a mutual advantageous North American Free Trade Agreement.



Justin Trudeau cannot be so dumb that he doesn't realize you don't wave a red flag in front of a president that sees himself as the alpha bull in the G7 barnyard, and therefore invincible.



All the name calling that went on over the weekend with some of Trump's top surrogates calling our prime minister both weak and traitorous to America when it comes to a free-trade agreement is not worth getting overly hyped up or thin-skinned sensitive.



It is just Trump being Trump. There is no need, therefore, in getting all worked up that the NAFTA sky is falling, and that Canada's U.s.dependent economy is about to take a massive hit because of Trump's overly protectionist position.



He doesn't have very many Americans on his side who have expertise in trade and economies of scale.



The Americans who know through their own business dealings that Canada is the best partner any nation can have will eventually rule the day.



It is time, therefore, to chill out. Trump likes to pride himself as being the king of the deal, but if it looks like he is losing both the deal and his all-tooprecious sense of self-importance, he will back off and pretend he was right all along.



He is, without question, an odd opponent.



But he is still the American president, and not someone to dust off because he is not what is considered the norm.



He has to be played and played with skill.

Anonymous

Of course Scheer wants to maintain it. The Seoul brother posted that on the first page.
QuoteThe reason Maxime Bernier is not leader of the Conservative party is that he had the temerity to stand up to the ag lobby.