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Quote from: "Velvet"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"Here's a sims like dilemma



What if you set up a guy as president that did most everything right, got north korea to settle down, virtually eliminated ISIS, and produced a great economy with near record low unemployment



But made all the leftist institutions that run our culture hate him



Which would win out, the truth or the haters?

People take a good economy for granted until it's not so good.

We certainly did in Alberta..



But, until three years ago we had provincial and federal governments for twenty five years that worked for instead of against this province.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Wazzzup"Here's a sims like dilemma



What if you set up a guy as president that did most everything right, got north korea to settle down, virtually eliminated ISIS, and produced a great economy with near record low unemployment



But made all the leftist institutions that run our culture hate him



Which would win out, the truth or the haters?

The truth is the haters will win out.

Bricktop

I just don't agree.



You guys will not remember, because you were not around, the turbulence of the 1960's.



The haters were out in force...communism was rampant, with most of Europe, Vietnam, Cuba, Angola, parts of the Carribean, China, Nicaragua, North Korea and El Salvador ruled by Soviet style communists.



There was civil unrest and protest marches in every major western city over the Vietnam war, nuclear disarmament and the price of eggs. Communist inspired terrorism was rampant.



This era is mild by comparison. If history teaches us anything, it shows that the rabble rarely hold sway for long.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"I just don't agree.



You guys will not remember, because you were not around, the turbulence of the 1960's.



The haters were out in force...communism was rampant, with most of Europe, Vietnam, Cuba, Angola, parts of the Carribean, China, Nicaragua, North Korea and El Salvador ruled by Soviet style communists.



There was civil unrest and protest marches in every major western city over the Vietnam war, nuclear disarmament and the price of eggs. Communist inspired terrorism was rampant.



This era is mild by comparison. If history teaches us anything, it shows that the rabble rarely hold sway for long.

We'll see.

Bricktop

Trust me.



The minority will never hold sway.

Frood

Minorities instigate revolutions whether justified or not.



What we're seeing now is the tail end of an over 100 year insurrection to break Western ideals once and for good.
Blahhhhhh...

Bricktop

Has there ever been a revolution that succeeded without popular support?

Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"Trust me.



The minority will never hold sway.

I don't have a problem at all with Canada's rapidly changing demographics..



I do have a problem with white shaming and blaming though.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Minorities instigate revolutions whether justified or not.



What we're seeing now is the tail end of an over 100 year insurrection to break Western ideals once and for good.

Western countries have encouraged newcomers to break our ideals.

Frood

Quote from: "Bricktop"Has there ever been a revolution that succeeded without popular support?


Plenty.



Just look at the US Revolutionary War. Loyalists outnumbered revolutionaries at the onset and the revolutionaries had little support until the heavy hand of the crown punished all and people got jack of it  



Try history. It's refreshing.
Blahhhhhh...

Bricktop

Which is another way of saying that once the revolution gained popular support, it prevailed.



Try logic. It's liberating.

Wazzzup

Quote from: "Bricktop"I just don't agree.



You guys will not remember, because you were not around, the turbulence of the 1960's.



The haters were out in force...communism was rampant, with most of Europe, Vietnam, Cuba, Angola, parts of the Carribean, China, Nicaragua, North Korea and El Salvador ruled by Soviet style communists.



There was civil unrest and protest marches in every major western city over the Vietnam war, nuclear disarmament and the price of eggs. Communist inspired terrorism was rampant.



This era is mild by comparison. If history teaches us anything, it shows that the rabble rarely hold sway for long.
I hope you're right.  I really want you to be.  But I don't think so.  the sixties were more of a hiccup.  the demographics of America are changing and most of the incoming immigrants want socialism.  This is a trend.  A straight line, that unless stopped, will end up in a prognazi dictatorship.

Bricktop

May, 1968. France.



"The protests reached such a point that political leaders feared civil war or revolution; the national government itself momentarily ceased to function after President Charles de Gaulle secretly fled France for a few hours."



"The unrest began with a series of student occupation protests against capitalism, consumerism, American imperialism and traditional institutions, values and order. It then spread to factories with strikes involving 11 million workers, more than 22% of the total population of France at the time, for two continuous weeks.[1] The movement was characterized by its spontaneous and de-centralized wildcat disposition; this created contrast and sometimes even conflict between itself and the establishment, trade unions and workers' parties.[1] It was the largest general strike ever attempted in France, and the first nationwide wildcat general strike.[1]"



Similar, but less intense unrest, was felt in many other western countries, fuelled by the unpopular Vietnam war, militant trade unions, socialist agitation and Soviet directed and resourced terror organisations throughout the West.



The reality is the left is not a movement of solutions, but of protest, and most clear thinking people see them for what they are.



They may make a lot of noise, but unless there is genuine social injustice and government tyranny, they will achieve very little.

caskur

Quote from: "Bricktop"May, 1968. France.





The reality is the left is not a movement of solutions, but of protest, and most clear thinking people see them for what they are.




Historically this is not true. Every single right humans in the West have today is because the right-winged establishment was fought.



Bismarck was the first to introduce social reforms 1. Educate workers, 2. bring in old age pensions, 3. insurance for workers copping accidents... plus more. 1880-90s.



At the same time, the poms were still pushing 3 year olds up chimneys to sweep.
"I think having land and not ruining it is the most beautiful art that anybody could ever want."
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Anonymous

Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Bricktop"May, 1968. France.





The reality is the left is not a movement of solutions, but of protest, and most clear thinking people see them for what they are.




Historically this is not true. Every single right humans in the West have today is because the right-winged establishment was fought.



Bismarck was the first to introduce social reforms 1. Educate workers, 2. bring in old age pensions, 3. insurance for workers copping accidents... plus more. 1880-90s.



At the same time, the poms were still pushing 3 year olds up chimneys to sweep.

So, you think the left wing establishment throughout the West will be successfully fought today?