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Quote from: DKG on June 10, 2025, 10:29:38 AMI thought you were referring to Alberta's share of the national debt if they leave Canada.My mistake, I batted that one out thinking I was talking to Herman, he's started quite a few threads regarding this of late.
First of all, I do not live in either prairie province. I am a sympathetic Central Canadian.
Quote from: DKG on June 10, 2025, 10:29:38 AMI want both provinces to stay in Canada, but the status quo is unacceptable. Alberta held a referendum on changing equalization that passed with something like sixty two percent of the vote. The Trudeau government ignored the results.In other words "ignoring the public's will". Just like Trudeau did. This is no different; a large whack of the population want out, their "representatives" are instead looking to boilerplate on more regulations to the already existing red tape that doesn't work and the citizenry want out from beneath, Something they can point to and say "we fixed everything" when really all they did was kick the can further down the road in the name of representing the interests of someone other than the public they are supposed to be doing the will of.
I like Premiers Smith and Moe's third way option that protects provincial jurisdiction and creates provincial alternatives to the RCMP, CPP, CRA </snip>
Quote from: DKG on June 10, 2025, 10:29:38 AMSo, it is most likely status quo or independence. And neither premier supports independence. The ball is in Carney's court. His actions will decide if independence referendums receive the magical fifty percent plus one. I have no faith in any Liberal to do anything in the national interest.Nor I in any Canadian, it's why I got the fuck out of the country five years ago. Carney finds himself on a good wicket, one where he can negotiate directly with two premiers who according to you are both receptive and willing to defuse the independence movement. Newsflash matey; Canada as a nation is failing, Alberta and Saskatchewan are the parachutes that are expected to slow the inevitable Fail. They can and will continue to be exploited to this end for as long as the fight keeps getting palmed off to people that shuffle up to the table of public sentiment and say "ooooo, look at this shiney we've got".
QuoteYou are missing my point; the oversized (and ongoing) contributions are the obligations I am referring to. Alberta's premier can best show her commitment to building Alberta's sovereign wealth by terminating said contributions, something that is only assured through independence or (don't laugh) through the generosity of Ottawa's consideration.I thought you were referring to Alberta's share of the national debt if they leave Canada.
Quote from: DKG on June 09, 2025, 10:28:50 AMIt's not Alberta's obligations to Canada that are unlikely to be met in the unlikely event that they get a fifty percent plus one yes vote in a referendum. It is Canada's obligations to the oversized contribution that province has made to Canada.You are missing my point; the oversized (and ongoing) contributions are the obligations I am referring to. Alberta's premier can best show her commitment to building Alberta's sovereign wealth by terminating said contributions, something that is only assured through independence or (don't laugh) through the generosity of Ottawa's consideration.
Quote from: . on June 09, 2025, 08:31:03 AMThen let's see her prove that with Alberta's exit from its obligations to Canada. Forgive my cynicism, I'm too used to political figures making all the right noises and doing buttfuck nothing to back it up with concrete action. Sovereign wealth is a hard enough thing to build when you aren't afforded the free and unfettered ability to create the wealth you know you might realise and any progress that you do make gets taxed by equalization payments.It's not Alberta's obligations to Canada that are unlikely to be met in the unlikely event that they get a fifty percent plus one yes vote in a referendum. It is Canada's obligations to the oversized contribution that province has made to Canada.
There's limited options that can address that and they all start with independence from Canada.
Quote from: DKG on June 08, 2025, 10:18:50 AMI read the premier of Alberta recognizes that too which is why she wants to build the province's sovereign wealth fund while the sun shines.Then let's see her prove that with Alberta's exit from its obligations to Canada. Forgive my cynicism, I'm too used to political figures making all the right noises and doing buttfuck nothing to back it up with concrete action. Sovereign wealth is a hard enough thing to build when you aren't afforded the free and unfettered ability to create the wealth you know you might realise and any progress that you do make gets taxed by equalization payments.
Quote from: . on June 08, 2025, 03:22:23 AMAnd before you tell me, yes I am aware that a sideways drilling operation would be horrendously ineffective. Just as I am sure that you are aware that the window of opportunity to exploit this resource for the benefit of Albertans is necessarily subject to its own use-by date. After all, nothing lasts forever, not even a promise from the Orange One.I read the premier of Alberta recognizes that too which is why she wants to build the province's sovereign wealth fund while the sun shines.
Make us both happy Herman. Get Alberta out of Canada while the getting is good.
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