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Posted by JOE
- Today at 01:51:16 AMQuote from: Dove on August 01, 2025, 09:55:12 PMI know very little about China. I know about the one child law. I know enough about the "great leap forward". I know about the dog meat festival and i know a few people who have gone to China for the purpose of missionary work.
And i was told of orphanages that had a room full of babies, none of which were crying because they knew no one was coming. And it broke my heart.
I tend to view China as a souless place based on how almost everything i have learned about it is horrific.
I put effort into avoiding purchasing things made in China because i want to avoid contributing to slave labor. Its very hard to avoid products made there.
I cant understand why there hasnt been major uprisings. I remember right before covid Hong Kong was fighting for freedom. Then covid hit and i didnt see anymore news about that.
Never been to China, so I'm not sure what their political situation is like Dove
DoveThere's a lot of misinformation from Western Media and by the Chinese Government itself.
But what I find most concerning about China is their low quality of health standards.
Of course the SARS outbreak and the COVID pandemic are difficult to forget.
No matter how anyone tries to spin it, the number of deaths due to both were astronomically high in China and worldwide.
They can't massage or cover up that statistic.
You can't put a price on National Health.
And despite what others say about China and for that matter Asia being the next Economic calossus, all those nations fall short on the quality of health and threat of disease. Sure, perhaps people can make a lotta money over there...but at what price? To one's health?
My brother and sister in law went to Hong Kong and both came back with COVID. I remember they were both coughing for weeks even tho they'd both been vaccinated beforehand. And of course, don't forget the last China Olympiad. Scores of athletes and dignitaries who stepped off the plane in China soon fell ill.
Posted by Shen Li
- Today at 01:07:43 AMQuote from: Dove on August 01, 2025, 09:55:12 PMI know very little about China. I know about the one child law. I know enough about the "great leap forward". I know about the dog meat festival and i know a few people who have gone to China for the purpose of missionary work.It seems like you have been brainwashed by English language media. I'm not surprised. They have brainwashed a lot of people in Canada, the US, Britain, Australia and New Zealand against the reality of life in China and Russia too.
And i was told of orphanages that had a room full of babies, none of which were crying because they knew no one was coming. And it broke my heart.
I tend to view China as a souless place based on how almost everything i have learned about it is horrific.
I put effort into avoiding purchasing things made in China because i want to avoid contributing to slave labor. Its very hard to avoid products made there.
I cant understand why there hasnt been major uprisings. I remember right before covid Hong Kong was fighting for freedom. Then covid hit and i didnt see anymore news about that.
I was a product of the one child policy enacted under Chairman Deng Xiaoping. It was ended some years ago. The central government and some provincial governments encourage having a second child now and even offer financial incentives for families that do. China is following the wealthy Asian economies(Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, HK and Singapore) who have the lowest birth rates in the world.
The orphanage story may have happened and it would make a good Disney movie if it did. However, it would be extremely isolated and not the norm like the Anglo media world would have everyone believe. China is a huge country with 1.45 billion people. There are pockets of poverty and neglect just like there are in your country.
Many Chinese view Canada and the US as soulless places based on how almost everything the Chinese media feeds them is about how horrific it is--the violent crime, the homelessness, the drugs, single parent families, family violence, child sexual abuse and so on.
The slave labour thing is Western propaganda. I lived in the city of Shenzhen across the border from HK. It has an enforced minimum wage and an average wage on par with South Korea. However, I don't blame you about about avoiding foreign purchases when you can.
There are protests all the time in China, just like there are in Canada. Some against provincial governments and some against the national government in Beijing. Usually corruption and preferential treatment are the reasons. Many times it's bread and butter issues as the days of 8% growth in China are over just like they ended in the little Asian Tiger countries.
Posted by Lokmar
- August 02, 2025, 06:41:05 PMQuote from: formosan on August 02, 2025, 10:33:32 AMWe had a lovely Filipino American poster here for many years......Azhya Aryola is a Donald Trump supporter.
My cousin married a flip gal. I like her a lot!
Well, she's really a chank I guess. Her fam got the hell out of china when them filthy commies took over. The got rich as hell after. She's worth a retarded amount of money!
Posted by formosan
- August 02, 2025, 10:33:32 AMQuote from: Lokmar on August 02, 2025, 12:11:20 AMThe proper term for those slants is "Flips".We had a lovely Filipino American poster here for many years......Azhya Aryola is a Donald Trump supporter.
Posted by DKG
- August 02, 2025, 09:42:55 AMQuote from: Dove on August 01, 2025, 09:47:11 PMI didnt intend to be insulting to Filipinos. Ive met several amd found them lovely. I was more referencing a lot of the country lives in poverty and the women are either being exploting OR exploiting lonely western men.I didn't think you were belittling Filipinos. And like any developing country, I am sure there are scams to get money from Westerners.
Plus someone showed me a "crush porn" video a long time ago and i cried for like two hours and it haunted me for years.
But, I think most Filipinos have indoor plumbing. Some in isolated mountainous areas may not.
Posted by Lokmar
- August 02, 2025, 12:11:20 AMThe proper term for those slants is "Flips".
Posted by Oliver the Second
- August 01, 2025, 11:18:22 PMQuote from: JOE on August 01, 2025, 10:59:01 PMAnd I'd never move to Singapore is it's too fuckin hot for tastes. Isn't it like 90 F or 30 C much of the year? Like no thanks. Even Vancouver is unbearable these days and it's only 25 C or about 80.
I can't stand all that heat, Shen
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Posted by JOE
- August 01, 2025, 10:59:01 PMQuote from: Shen Li on July 25, 2025, 05:34:22 PMAs for Joe, he is a harmless old troll. Hence the trophy thread. If he was young and had the resources he would prolly bail on Canada too like 110,000 Canadians did last year.
Like I said Shen Li
Shen, if I moved somewhere else it'd be a few months somewhere else. But not 12 mos of the year. Unlike yourself I'm not that unhappy that I'd wanna leave entirely.And I'd never move to Singapore is it's too fuckin hot for tastes. Isn't it like 90 F or 30 C much of the year? Like no thanks. Even Vancouver is unbearable these days and it's only 25 C or about 80.
I can't stand all that heat, Shen
Posted by Dove
- August 01, 2025, 09:59:46 PMQuote from: JOE on August 01, 2025, 12:47:14 AMOther think I was going to remark on, there's really no need in this day and age to bolt and uproot themselves entirely to one country anymore Dove
That may have been the way it was 30-40 years ago when the World was less connected financially and electronically. Back then people had to move away, pack up and uproot themselves to another country entirely.
But now...there's all these investor's visas, gold visas, dual citizenship, digital nomad arrangements that the host countries offer so many options to would be expats. They've made workplace mobility a reality. People can live 6 months here, 6 months there. Get a 1 year work visa, a five year one, whatever.
As I said before, I would seek out 2nd passport from another 1st world nation and treat the whole exercise as an additive as opposed to a subtractive one. Other words kill 2 birds with one stone. Why give up your citizenship, when you could get a passport of equal or perhaps superior value?
But that's just me. That's how I'd approach it. Get more not less.
Well like i said, its a hard thing to understand if you are not American.
Even if i would be better off finacailly in another country, id still stay. I was born here and i will die here.
I dont think the rest of the world hates Americans nearly as much as the left claims they do.
Posted by Dove
- August 01, 2025, 09:55:12 PMQuote from: Shen Li on August 01, 2025, 05:51:43 PMI heard Ho Chi Min City is starting to resemble Shanghai. Well maybe Shanghai 25 years ago.
I know very little about China. I know about the one child law. I know enough about the "great leap forward". I know about the dog meat festival and i know a few people who have gone to China for the purpose of missionary work.
And i was told of orphanages that had a room full of babies, none of which were crying because they knew no one was coming. And it broke my heart.
I tend to view China as a souless place based on how almost everything i have learned about it is horrific.
I put effort into avoiding purchasing things made in China because i want to avoid contributing to slave labor. Its very hard to avoid products made there.
I cant understand why there hasnt been major uprisings. I remember right before covid Hong Kong was fighting for freedom. Then covid hit and i didnt see anymore news about that.
Posted by Dove
- August 01, 2025, 09:47:11 PMQuote from: DKG on July 31, 2025, 09:32:45 AMA lot of Filipino Canadians are returning to the Philippines to retire or buy a business.
I am pretty sure indoor plumbing is standard.
I didnt intend to be insulting to Filipinos. Ive met several amd found them lovely. I was more referencing a lot of the country lives in poverty and the women are either being exploting OR exploiting lonely western men.
Plus someone showed me a "crush porn" video a long time ago and i cried for like two hours and it haunted me for years.
Posted by Shen Li
- August 01, 2025, 05:51:43 PMQuote from: DKG on August 01, 2025, 10:16:14 AMI read that a lot of investment is moving from China to Vietnam.I heard Ho Chi Min City is starting to resemble Shanghai. Well maybe Shanghai 25 years ago.
Posted by DKG
- August 01, 2025, 10:16:14 AMQuote from: Shen Li on August 01, 2025, 12:31:48 AMI've only been across the border to Malaysia. I liked it. It is developed. It is clean and has good infrastructure. Certainly better than Canada.I read that a lot of investment is moving from China to Vietnam.
I don't know about travelling to other countries in the region. Singapore is super rich, Malaysia is a middle income nation, but some of our neighbours are in the early stages of development and that would be a bit of a culture shock.
I do want to see Vietnam even though they hate Chinese. It is becoming the economic dynamo of East and SE Asia. I want to go there before it becomes too developed. And besides, I like pho.
Posted by JOE
- August 01, 2025, 12:47:14 AMQuote from: Dove on July 31, 2025, 04:09:34 AMI think the Philippines have enough of dealing with Americans going over there to "pick wives" amd all that mess.
Plus i like indoor plumbing lol
Other think I was going to remark on, there's really no need in this day and age to bolt and uproot themselves entirely to one country anymore Dove
Dove. Especially for Americans or Canadians.That may have been the way it was 30-40 years ago when the World was less connected financially and electronically. Back then people had to move away, pack up and uproot themselves to another country entirely.
But now...there's all these investor's visas, gold visas, dual citizenship, digital nomad arrangements that the host countries offer so many options to would be expats. They've made workplace mobility a reality. People can live 6 months here, 6 months there. Get a 1 year work visa, a five year one, whatever.
As I said before, I would seek out 2nd passport from another 1st world nation and treat the whole exercise as an additive as opposed to a subtractive one. Other words kill 2 birds with one stone. Why give up your citizenship, when you could get a passport of equal or perhaps superior value?
But that's just me. That's how I'd approach it. Get more not less.
Posted by Shen Li
- August 01, 2025, 12:31:48 AMQuote from: Herman on July 31, 2025, 04:26:59 PMOld Herman really likes South East Asia. They have a liad back way of life that is in stark contrast to the rich North East Asian countries Korea Japan and Taiwan.I've only been across the border to Malaysia. I liked it. It is developed. It is clean and has good infrastructure. Certainly better than Canada.
I aint spent a lot of time in the Philippines, but we had a poster here CC who lived there for about five years. She said she loved it and missed it.
I know the feeling. I miss Borneo Sumatra Vietnam and the whole region.
I don't know about travelling to other countries in the region. Singapore is super rich, Malaysia is a middle income nation, but some of our neighbours are in the early stages of development and that would be a bit of a culture shock.
I do want to see Vietnam even though they hate Chinese. It is becoming the economic dynamo of East and SE Asia. I want to go there before it becomes too developed. And besides, I like pho.