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[quote author=Frood link=msg=442501 date=1646484292]
<t>I'm just tired of the manic covid-mania that has gripped everyone around the world and in our real lives.

Last December we learned that my wife's vaxxed parents were having to sell us being at a Christmas gathering to the rest of the siblings and their adult aged children. They never mentioned it to us personally.

My inlaws are in the 80's and don't care ultimately but they were hardcore first then second then third jabbers...

I probably ruined a bit of solidarity when our relatives asked us what we thought about covid, jabs, and the rest. Some of them sneered at us or tried to avoid us after. My brother in law all but called me a raging fuckwit to my face.

THEY WERE THE FUCKING PROBLEM....not us...as has now transpired.

I don't expect any apologies though. People get caught up in paranoia and mass psychosis.

But I won't forget either.

When I was 16 I drove out to our weekly relatives/family meeting place because my mum said I needed to attend sometimes....roast some hotdogs...pick some blueberries.... get to know my extended family....at least once in awhile.

My cousins from my mum's older sister were there....a bit younger, hanging out in a camper van, and they were shit-talking and I joined in.

Suddenly, their father tore through the door and accused me of corrupting his kids and teaching them how to curse...dragged me out by my head... and began to unload on me verbally... calling me spoiled, arrogant, a bad influence, a piece of shit. He started shit talking about my father who was not present and saying I was just like him.

Everybody was in shock.... that anybody in our family would do that to a kid. They tried to talk him down but he was really drunk. He was spitting hate on my face...and I didn't understand.... I had always looked up to him. After he went for a walk, I excused myself and drove away.

I got a half arsed apology aka excuse later but I never got a sense of remorse.

So people can say move on and I will, but I won't ever fucking forget.</t>
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Posted by Frood

- March 11, 2022, 02:49:21 AM

So why pin what no country is free of onto a country that is the most free, or up until recently, more free than anywhere else.... for better and worse?

Posted by Bricktop

- March 11, 2022, 02:15:04 AM

No country is free of those commodities.

Posted by Frood

- March 11, 2022, 01:38:08 AM

They don't have the market on merits or misconduct....

Victoria is a good case study.

Posted by Bricktop

- March 11, 2022, 01:19:49 AM

Well, if they confined their filthy habits to their own country, you'd have a point.

Posted by Frood

- March 11, 2022, 01:08:24 AM

~~Quote from: Bricktop post_id=443228 time=1646978608 user_id=1560~~
~~Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=443216 time=1646971971 user_id=1676~~
~~Quote from: Bricktop post_id=443179 time=1646958980 user_id=1560~~
To the American mind, anything that turns a buck is fair play.

Toxic food, cigarettes, sugar loaded drinks, firearms, news media, violence, fake wrestling, opiates and of course, religion.

If there's money in it, America will corporatise it.

All of the items have their merits....

Yep. They kill, deceive or scam.

I said "merits"....

Posted by Bricktop

- March 11, 2022, 01:03:28 AM

~~Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=443216 time=1646971971 user_id=1676~~
~~Quote from: Bricktop post_id=443179 time=1646958980 user_id=1560~~
To the American mind, anything that turns a buck is fair play.

Toxic food, cigarettes, sugar loaded drinks, firearms, news media, violence, fake wrestling, opiates and of course, religion.

If there's money in it, America will corporatise it.

All of the items have their merits....

Yep. They kill, deceive or scam.

Posted by Anonymous

- March 11, 2022, 12:28:15 AM

~~Quote from: Bricktop post_id=443184 time=1646959872 user_id=1560~~
It is akin to ALL capitalist countries...but which other country has a massive evangelical industry, or a fast food/soft drink industry, or a massive firearms industry, or massive tobacco corporations, or fake news outlets, or drug company opiate dealers???

In what country did Scientology, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christadelphians and Mormons arise?

As a Christian, I'm sure you'll have views on the integrity of American religious organisations.

Comparing other countries to America isn't comparing apples with apples. Of all the nations of the world past and present, America is unique.

We have all those things in Canada..

My husband and I are five point Calvinist Christians.....so the dispensationalism alone of those types of easy believism ministries was antithetical to us.

Posted by Frood

- March 10, 2022, 11:12:51 PM

~~Quote from: Bricktop post_id=443179 time=1646958980 user_id=1560~~
To the American mind, anything that turns a buck is fair play.

Toxic food, cigarettes, sugar loaded drinks, firearms, news media, violence, fake wrestling, opiates and of course, religion.

If there's money in it, America will corporatise it.

All of the items have their merits....

Posted by Bricktop

- March 10, 2022, 07:51:12 PM

It is akin to ALL capitalist countries...but which other country has a massive evangelical industry, or a fast food/soft drink industry, or a massive firearms industry, or massive tobacco corporations, or fake news outlets, or drug company opiate dealers???

In what country did Scientology, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christadelphians and Mormons arise?

As a Christian, I'm sure you'll have views on the integrity of American religious organisations.

Comparing other countries to America isn't comparing apples with apples. Of all the nations of the world past and present, America is unique.

Posted by Anonymous

- March 10, 2022, 07:43:16 PM

~~Quote from: Bricktop post_id=443179 time=1646958980 user_id=1560~~
To the American mind, anything that turns a buck is fair play.

Toxic food, cigarettes, sugar loaded drinks, firearms, news media, violence, fake wrestling, opiates and of course, religion.

If there's money in it, America will corporatise it.

That describes most countries..

As for faith, I remember Seoul saying that the church has more influence in South Korea than any country he has ever seen.

Posted by Bricktop

- March 10, 2022, 07:36:20 PM

To the American mind, anything that turns a buck is fair play.

Toxic food, cigarettes, sugar loaded drinks, firearms, news media, violence, fake wrestling, opiates and of course, religion.

If there's money in it, America will corporatise it.

Posted by Anonymous

- March 10, 2022, 06:43:58 PM

~~Quote from: Bricktop post_id=443149 time=1646953800 user_id=1560~~
~~Quote from: "Oliver Clotheshoffe" post_id=443096 time=1646921858 user_id=3349~~
Billy Graham was the only one I ever trusted. He was the real deal.

What was "real" about him?

Net assets of his "ministry" last year; $394,798,811.

Just another con artist making money from the fear and paranoia of American citizens. Even when dead.

Jesus H. His boy took over the minsitry. And he has that mega charity, Samartan's Purse.

Posted by cc

- March 10, 2022, 06:41:03 PM

~~Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=443115 time=1646938572 user_id=2015~~
~~Quote from: cc post_id=443107 time=1646931069 user_id=88~~
~~Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=443073 time=1646891548 user_id=56~~
~~Quote from: Bricktop post_id=443070 time=1646891263 user_id=1560~~
American evangelism. The most lucrative con ever perpetrated...and they still get away with it.

They have lost all the culture wars and no longer have much if any influence over politics.

Praise Jesus for that.

Actually it was not Jesus, rather it was the acc_devil that took away their influence & now uses it for his (or her ) purposes

See several threads on "progs" "wokes" "CRT" etc. etc. for absolute proof

I am getting mixed messages. Do you think those wealthy televangelists using their pulpits to advance their agenda was good for American democracy?

Sorry for kibitzing around & confusing ... I detest all televangelists with a passion .. charlatans to the core ..

even Graham was a slick salesman, not a preacher

Some of them tried to help Reps get votes I suppose .. but those votes were there without the salesmen .. so while some tried, I doubt many added to the vote total significantly

Posted by Bricktop

- March 10, 2022, 06:10:00 PM

~~Quote from: "Oliver Clotheshoffe" post_id=443096 time=1646921858 user_id=3349~~
Billy Graham was the only one I ever trusted. He was the real deal.

What was "real" about him?

Net assets of his "ministry" last year; $394,798,811.

Just another con artist making money from the fear and paranoia of American citizens. Even when dead.

Posted by Anonymous

- March 10, 2022, 01:56:12 PM

~~Quote from: cc post_id=443107 time=1646931069 user_id=88~~
~~Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=443073 time=1646891548 user_id=56~~
~~Quote from: Bricktop post_id=443070 time=1646891263 user_id=1560~~
American evangelism. The most lucrative con ever perpetrated...and they still get away with it.

They have lost all the culture wars and no longer have much if any influence over politics.

Praise Jesus for that.

Actually it was not Jesus, rather it was the acc_devil that took away their influence & now uses it for his (or her ) purposes

See several threads on "progs" "wokes" "CRT" etc. etc. for absolute proof

I am getting mixed messages. Do you think those wealthy televangelists using their pulpits to advance their agenda was good for American democracy?