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Posted by Frood
 - March 11, 2022, 02:49:21 AM
So why pin what no country is free of onto a country that is the most free, or up until recently, more free than anywhere else.... for better and worse?
Posted by Bricktop
 - March 11, 2022, 02:15:04 AM
No country is free of those commodities.
Posted by Frood
 - March 11, 2022, 01:38:08 AM
They don't have the market on merits or misconduct....



Victoria is a good case study.
Posted by Bricktop
 - March 11, 2022, 01:19:49 AM
Well, if they confined their filthy habits to their own country, you'd have a point.
Posted by Frood
 - March 11, 2022, 01:08:24 AM
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=443228 time=1646978608 user_id=1560
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=443216 time=1646971971 user_id=1676
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=443179 time=1646958980 user_id=1560
To the American mind, anything that turns a buck is fair play.



Toxic food, cigarettes, sugar loaded drinks, firearms, news media, violence, fake wrestling, opiates and of course, religion.



If there's money in it, America will corporatise it.


All of the items have their merits....


Yep. They kill, deceive or scam.


I said "merits"....
Posted by Bricktop
 - March 11, 2022, 01:03:28 AM
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=443216 time=1646971971 user_id=1676
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=443179 time=1646958980 user_id=1560
To the American mind, anything that turns a buck is fair play.



Toxic food, cigarettes, sugar loaded drinks, firearms, news media, violence, fake wrestling, opiates and of course, religion.



If there's money in it, America will corporatise it.


All of the items have their merits....


Yep. They kill, deceive or scam.
Posted by Anonymous
 - March 11, 2022, 12:28:15 AM
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=443184 time=1646959872 user_id=1560
It is akin to ALL capitalist countries...but which other country has a massive evangelical industry, or a fast food/soft drink industry, or a massive firearms industry, or massive tobacco corporations, or fake news outlets, or drug company opiate dealers???



In what country did Scientology, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christadelphians and Mormons arise?



As a Christian, I'm sure you'll have views on the integrity of American religious organisations.



Comparing other countries to America isn't comparing apples with apples. Of all the nations of the world past and present, America is unique.

We have all those things in Canada..



My husband and I are five point Calvinist Christians.....so the dispensationalism alone of those types of easy believism ministries was antithetical to us.
Posted by Frood
 - March 10, 2022, 11:12:51 PM
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=443179 time=1646958980 user_id=1560
To the American mind, anything that turns a buck is fair play.



Toxic food, cigarettes, sugar loaded drinks, firearms, news media, violence, fake wrestling, opiates and of course, religion.



If there's money in it, America will corporatise it.


All of the items have their merits....
Posted by Bricktop
 - March 10, 2022, 07:51:12 PM
It is akin to ALL capitalist countries...but which other country has a massive evangelical industry, or a fast food/soft drink industry, or a massive firearms industry, or massive tobacco corporations, or fake news outlets, or drug company opiate dealers???



In what country did Scientology, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christadelphians and Mormons arise?



As a Christian, I'm sure you'll have views on the integrity of American religious organisations.



Comparing other countries to America isn't comparing apples with apples. Of all the nations of the world past and present, America is unique.
Posted by Anonymous
 - March 10, 2022, 07:43:16 PM
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=443179 time=1646958980 user_id=1560
To the American mind, anything that turns a buck is fair play.



Toxic food, cigarettes, sugar loaded drinks, firearms, news media, violence, fake wrestling, opiates and of course, religion.



If there's money in it, America will corporatise it.

That describes most countries..



As for faith, I remember Seoul saying that the church has more influence in South Korea than any country he has ever seen.
Posted by Bricktop
 - March 10, 2022, 07:36:20 PM
To the American mind, anything that turns a buck is fair play.



Toxic food, cigarettes, sugar loaded drinks, firearms, news media, violence, fake wrestling, opiates and of course, religion.



If there's money in it, America will corporatise it.
Posted by Anonymous
 - March 10, 2022, 06:43:58 PM
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=443149 time=1646953800 user_id=1560
Quote from: "Oliver Clotheshoffe" post_id=443096 time=1646921858 user_id=3349
Billy Graham was the only one I ever trusted. He was the real deal.


What was "real" about him?



Net assets of his "ministry" last year; $394,798,811.



Just another con artist making money from the fear and paranoia of American citizens. Even when dead.

Jesus H. His boy took over the minsitry. And he has that mega charity, Samartan's Purse.
Posted by cc
 - March 10, 2022, 06:41:03 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=443115 time=1646938572 user_id=2015
Quote from: cc post_id=443107 time=1646931069 user_id=88
Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=443073 time=1646891548 user_id=56
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=443070 time=1646891263 user_id=1560
American evangelism. The most lucrative con ever perpetrated...and they still get away with it.

They have lost all the culture wars and no longer have much if any influence over politics.

Praise Jesus for that.

Actually it was not Jesus, rather it was the   acc_devil that took away their  influence & now uses it for his (or her  :icon_wink:) purposes



See several threads on "progs" "wokes" "CRT" etc. etc. for absolute proof

I am getting mixed messages. Do you think those wealthy televangelists using their pulpits to advance their agenda was good for American democracy?

Sorry for kibitzing around & confusing ... I detest all televangelists with a passion .. charlatans to the core   ..



even  Graham was a slick salesman, not a preacher



Some of them tried to help Reps get votes I suppose .. but those votes were there without the salesmen .. so while some tried, I doubt many added to the vote total significantly
Posted by Bricktop
 - March 10, 2022, 06:10:00 PM
Quote from: "Oliver Clotheshoffe" post_id=443096 time=1646921858 user_id=3349
Billy Graham was the only one I ever trusted. He was the real deal.


What was "real" about him?



Net assets of his "ministry" last year; $394,798,811.



Just another con artist making money from the fear and paranoia of American citizens. Even when dead.
Posted by Anonymous
 - March 10, 2022, 01:56:12 PM
Quote from: cc post_id=443107 time=1646931069 user_id=88
Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=443073 time=1646891548 user_id=56
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=443070 time=1646891263 user_id=1560
American evangelism. The most lucrative con ever perpetrated...and they still get away with it.

They have lost all the culture wars and no longer have much if any influence over politics.

Praise Jesus for that.

Actually it was not Jesus, rather it was the   acc_devil that took away their  influence & now uses it for his (or her  :icon_wink:) purposes



See several threads on "progs" "wokes" "CRT" etc. etc. for absolute proof

I am getting mixed messages. Do you think those wealthy televangelists using their pulpits to advance their agenda was good for American democracy?