Quote from: Biggie Smiles on June 22, 2024, 08:55:52 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCDTHoHqbyM

A child like understanding of international affairs. Ya, that describes Piers Morgan and a whole lot of others. I am glad to see he mentioned that the US has been behind every dispute in Europe since the end of the last Cold War before the US started a new one.

Quote from: Herman on June 21, 2024, 11:34:30 PMJapan has the highest debt to GDP ratio in the world at 264 percent. The US is at 129 percent and growing fast. China is under eighty percent.

The difference between Japan and China compared to the US is they have huge sovereign wealth funds. The US has sweet bugger all.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/debt-to-gdp-ratio-by-country

I suspect a lot of China's strength as a nation rests upon its ability to marshall a great deal of cheap labour. Where they succeed is their ability to dump a cheaper (though not necessarily better) product to market, making it insanely easy for large businesses to outsource their manufacturing there to keep their stockholders happy.

The same people parroting that China is in the midst of an economic crisis think nothing of buying the products this supposedly "failing" economy produces. A good example would be Australia's trade relationship with the CCP, where over a quarter of Australia's imports come from the CCP itself and of all its exports, nearly 40% are accounted for with chinese investment. And that investment is heavily subsidised to at or below its production costs by the Australian taxpayer.

A sweet deal if you can swing it as China has and it is largely a result of these kinds of arrangements that sees China able to pay its workers pitifully low prices. Meanwhile in the countries that afford the CCP this tasty arrangement the cost of living continues to skyrocket as the jobs market dwindles. Conglomerates pulling their investments from the shores of places like Australia while their governments concoct scare stories like "oh no, the CCP is in the middle of an economic crisis" while aggravating their own nation's prospects further by offering more and more taxpayer funded subsidies to prop up "our biggest trading partner".

China isn't in the middle of any economic crisis, not for as long as the west continues to bail them out in this fashion and at the west's expense. China's economic futures will falter when its trading partners can no longer bleed their own people to the extent China has.

Fun fact - Australia has a vast amount of mineral wealth, yet precious little in the way of refining or processing it. Take their oil reserves for instance - they have an overabundance of crude oil at their disposal, yet must import a staggering 90% of their fuel from overseas (Asia predominantly) because Australia's two remaining oil refineries cry "poor" and come up with excuse after excuse as to why they cannot upgrade their facilities to better provide for the country they are operating within. In fact, they are being paid billions annually just to keep their doors open.

Anyone care to wax lyrical about China's economic misfortunes?

The West is finished. The whole world wants the West to fail and it is. The West itself wants to fail.

The West win a civilizational war. Yeah fucking right. Countries like Britain and Canada and even the US are having a hard time finding recruits to enlist in their woke armies.

Quote from: caskur on June 21, 2024, 10:48:56 PMDo you people like ever watch news or read a paper... I mean what goes on in your bobble heads????


China is in the midst of a profound economic crisis.

Growth rates are flagging as an unsustainable mountain of debt piles up;

China's debt-to-GDP ratio reached a record 288% in

2023.4 Mar 2024
https://time.com › china-...


China's Economic Slump Is Here to Stay | TIME9

Japan has the highest debt to GDP ratio in the world at 264 percent. The US is at 129 percent and growing fast. China is under eighty percent.

The difference between Japan and China compared to the US is they have huge sovereign wealth funds. The US has sweet bugger all.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/debt-to-gdp-ratio-by-country

Sorry, tell me more about Tasmania being a foreign nation.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on June 21, 2024, 10:15:58 PMI take it you serve in an official capacity as CPA for the CCP?

Do you people like ever watch news or read a paper... I mean what goes on in your bobble heads????


China is in the midst of a profound economic crisis.

Growth rates are flagging as an unsustainable mountain of debt piles up;

China's debt-to-GDP ratio reached a record 288% in

2023.4 Mar 2024
https://time.com › china-...


China's Economic Slump Is Here to Stay | TIME9

Quote from: Herman on June 21, 2024, 10:08:29 PMShe thinks the USSR still exists for Christ sake.

PUTIN IS KGB... HE WANTS THE old USSR LAND back.

Quote from: caskur on June 21, 2024, 10:12:53 PMThey are broke, trust me on this one...

I take it you serve in an official capacity as CPA for the CCP?

Quote from: Herman on June 21, 2024, 10:08:29 PMShe thinks the USSR still exists for Christ sake.

Doesn't the hypocrisy just get to you on a level that is totally different? it makes you want to strangle them at times. Before they have the opportunity to reproduce preferably.

On the one hand you will see them shrieking in faux horror at mass shooting at a convenience store somewhere in the US and literally demand over and over we put gun manufacturers out of business. Because they care about human life of course

you mean the same gun manufacturers that are putting AR-15 rifles in the handles of children on the front lines of Ukraine to kill their own brethren and be killed by them? Sanctioned and even instigated by the leaders you voted for and continue to support to this very day? Those manufacturers?

Quote from: Herman on June 21, 2024, 10:05:58 PMMy family fled the USSR. It doesn't exist anymore. The US acts like it still does though and that is why we have brothers fighting each other in Eastern Europe.

China is not broke, they own the US.

They are broke, trust me on this one...

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on June 21, 2024, 10:06:08 PMOkay Caskur, tell me how you have become this willfully stupid.

you just undercut your entire argument then and there. For tell me how a nation that is allegedly defending itself from a hostile invasion is forbidden by ANYONE to make offensive counters, and not be a fucking puppet government of stooges propped by a foreign power for some mutually beneficial gain that has nothing to do with democracy or the preservation of their border integrity?

Are you really this fucking dense?

Gosh... the propagandists don't even have to make their bullshit semi believable anymore to dupe people like you.

astonishing

She thinks the USSR still exists for Christ sake.

Quote from: caskur on June 21, 2024, 09:47:45 PMthe Ukranians have been forbidden by the USA to cross the border to fight the Russians. That virtually tying a hand behind their backs.

Okay Caskur, tell me how you have become this willfully stupid.

you just undercut your entire argument then and there. For tell me how a nation that is allegedly defending itself from a hostile invasion is forbidden by ANYONE to make offensive counters, and not be a fucking puppet government of stooges propped by a foreign power for some mutually beneficial gain that has nothing to do with democracy or the preservation of their border integrity?

Are you really this fucking dense?

Gosh... the propagandists don't even have to make their bullshit semi believable anymore to dupe people like you.

astonishing

Quote from: caskur on June 21, 2024, 09:47:45 PMYou see I am a little different in how I approached the war in Ukraine. I would have straight away bombed the Cremlin... I have pictures of my mother-in-law, Kurt and Eric standing in front of it in 1975... the Ukranians have been forbidden by the USA to cross the border to fight the Russians. That virtually tying a hand behind their backs.

The Russians already murdered my country men, woman and children when they shot one of our commercial planes out of the sky BEFORE they attacked Ukraine. Putjn just murdered his opposition leader a few months back. And you fucking nutters here think he is a hero... I can't even make this bs up.


If you cannot see how wrong it is to murder your own citizens sending them to war over shit then I am afraid you've got bats in your belfry...

China is broke. They can't feed their own population so having a war is their way of culling their population. They aren't like you hoping every child lives, they literally eat children like abos used to until we made them stop.

They have fished their own waters until NOTHING is left and they troll the Pacific emptying ever reef that isn't manned.

They can't win a war... the West will start by taking out their satellites rendering them blind.

My family fled the USSR. It doesn't exist anymore. The US acts like it still does though and that is why we have brothers fighting each other in Eastern Europe.

China is not broke, they own the US.

Quote from: caskur on June 21, 2024, 09:49:21 PMAnd you have a bad habit of believing the underground media.... I suppose you think the earth is flat too.

It aint even underground my naive friend. The US has lied, bullied, and provoked Russia since the fall of the Soviet Union. Look it up.

They overthrew an elected Ukrainian president they didn't like and made sure this Washington stooge won the last Ukrainian election.