Saskatchewan will get a similar ballot question after Alberta.

Great stuff & all true. Actual Federal land ownership (it is a non factor) & Chug ownership is very minimal which the USA would offer & offers their Chugs more sovereignty than Canada ever has.
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Regarding Mineral Rights, we currently do not have these in Canada,  but we should and Alberta and Saskatchewan will when we become part of the US.

I cannot believe how fast things are moving. We are already well over the threshold to trigger a referendum question in Alberta. They are talking about having it on the municipal election ballot in October.

Preston Manning has become the unofficial leader of the prairie independence movement. I am driving to Edmonton for a divorce Canada rally at their legislature. I am also helping to organize one in Regina.

We've already got about 600,000 votes in rural Alberta that we can count on referendum day. All we need after that is 250,000-300,000 urban votes for fifty percent plus one which would trigger a divorce settlement with Canada and Chugs at the table. The US would have a scrutineer there too to make sure it's new territory and eventual state is not getting screwed.

If I lived in Alberta or Saskatchewan I would vote for independence and not to be an American state. The Democrats might control everything in 2028. They will flood Alberta and Saskatchewan with more illegal MS-13 criminals like Garcia.

Quote from: Eggward on April 30, 2025, 01:08:30 PMI'll move to Alberta tomorrow just to vote no in the referendum and move back after it is over.

Which reservation in Alberta are you moving from and to.

More importantly, why do you care if Alberta leaves? I thought you sanitizer addicted welfare chugs hated people that do not vote for progtards who keep you chugs addicted to sanitizer and welfare.

Quote from: . on Today at 12:24:03 AMThey aren't working with them now, so what's the difference?



...wait for it...waaait for it....



Ahh yeah, the blood money "equalization" payments become a thing of the past. w00t!

I am not really following what you are advocating for here? Status quo? An independent prairie republic? A new arrangement within Canada(which would be the hardest as it would require assent from seven provinces. It does not sound like becoming a US state though.

Quote from: Herman on April 30, 2025, 11:57:27 PMTrade Commiefornia for Alberta and Saskatchewan. That guarantees the presidency and congress never fall into democRAT hands again.

For Canada, it guarantees it's collapse.

Nah man, keep that hellhole in the 50...51 (52?) and lure all its productive workers north. They do exist, just ask Erica.

That way you get to keep a warm water port on the west of the continent (useful for trade with East China (I'm sorry, "Taiwan") as well as a bigass turkeyshoot range for all the assholes who think they can hop the fence and start shitting out babies in return for a green card.

If you're gonna bail any states, fuck off hellholes like Oregon and Washington. Gets rid of most of the ANTIFA fags and Ottawa will sing their praises as new blood against the Nazis anyway.


THERE'S your "pure Win!"

Quote from: Shen Li on April 30, 2025, 08:28:57 PMI don't favour Alberta and Saskatchewan becoming a landlocked indie republic unless it is a stepping stone to statehood. Canada will not work with an indie Alberta out of spite.

They aren't working with them now, so what's the difference?



...wait for it...waaait for it....



Ahh yeah, the blood money "equalization" payments become a thing of the past. w00t!

Quote from: Shen Li on April 30, 2025, 08:28:57 PMMaybe an Alberta and Saskatchewan free Canada can try to coax California, Oregon and Washington State to join Canada. Win win all around.

Better idea. It costs less to live in AB and SK than it does on Commiefornia, and a newly minted state(s) with unbridled opportunity in the energy sector will provide extra incentive for the "can-do" types to relocate.

Less people living in Commiefornia means less representation for Commiefornia in DC. Potentially more representation for Alberta and/or Saskatchewan in DC... if you're prepared to welcome a population increase and put them to work.

I can hear the REEEEEEEEEEEE from the left already. 

Quote from: Herman on April 30, 2025, 03:53:38 PMToo many damned words for my barrel wash soaked brain.

Then I'll break it down into byte sized chunks for you. You deal with as much as you can in one sitting and come back for the rest at your leisure.

Quote from: Herman on April 30, 2025, 03:53:38 PMYou aint a prairie fella, so I do not expect you to understand.

I don't need to be a prairie fella, I have an ability to look at a situation and reduce it to its constituent components, making observations along the way and seeing how it works. Often I can draw comparisons between other examples and draw conclusions when I see similarities in prior examples. Not to be an ass about it, but my concentration span is such that I can worry away at a problem, sometimes for years to this end.

Quote from: Herman on April 30, 2025, 03:53:38 PMThis is about raising living standards to what resource rich jusrisdictions ought to be.

Agreed. And I do not dispute that for the longest time Ottawa has stood in the way of that happening for the prairies, nor do I anticipate them getting out of the way of progress towards that end. The solution (and I think we are both in agreement here) is that Ottawa needs to be removed from the equation.

I also believe you are well aware that such a solution is going to be a difficult undertaking. Your concentration span may not match mine, but you are certainly no dummy.

Quote from: Herman on April 30, 2025, 03:53:38 PMI live close to North Dakota and I go there a few times a year. They are a lot richer than Alberta and Saskatchewan. We want that shit. Hell, about seventy percent of folks in rural and small town Saskatchewan want out of Canada because they say it aint worth it anymore.

Some think we can go it alone with Alberta and others think the best way to get the wealthy life we deserve is by becoming a US state.

All of this I understand. I also understand that in order to become a US state, you must first secure your independence from Canada by referendum and that its outcome must necessarily be honoured by your elected officials, both at the provincial and federal levels.

Ottawa is unlikely to let its richest cash cows go easily. SK's and AB's mineral resources I imagine have been earmarked for China and at no profit for the citizenry. Ottawa (I lived there for 8 years) is corrupt as hell and very likely will buy off the necessary provincial politicians to stymie any referenda. You mention Wexit; I draw your attention to the UK's Brexit and the amount of bullshit the UK went through in the attempt to unshackle them from the EU.

I say "attempt" because effectively the UK's government is largely behaving at they were still part of the EU, especially in terms of immigration.

Quote from: Herman on April 30, 2025, 03:53:38 PMThis is different than anything I have ever seen in my fifty seven years. Alberta in only twenty four hours has enough signatures to trigger a referendum question. And that is without a frickin leader of the Wexit movement.

The danger we have in both provinces is moving too fast. We have to get this organized in both provinces and find a leader to articulate our side. Build the movement, define what we wants and how we will get there. Define how the separation will take place. Present it all to members of Congress as well.

You also have an even greater danger of moving too slowly. Part of the reason Ottawa is still treating you like shit is because they believe they can kick the can down the road long enough so that you run out of puff and/or they can undermine enough of your provincial executive so that your secession falls in a screaming heap as Quebec's did. Also, you have three and a half years before the loudest voice for your annexation (ie: Donald Trump) is no longer in office... and even less time for your annexation to take place in to give him ample bragging rights time. I hear you when you say you need time to get your own ducks in a row, but you are working against the clock.

With all of this said, I don't think you can do it. I understand that you want it to happen, I agree that it ought to happen, but you need to act a lot more quickly than you are prepared to in order to become a US state.

I want you to prove me wrong. Not in word, but in deed. Get your secession done and dusted ASAP, with or without Alberta and get yourself into a position where you can then decide if the US offer to join is both valid and a going concern. It will be hard to do, but I will be one of the millions cheering for you when your success is assured.

Quote from: Shen Li on April 30, 2025, 08:28:57 PMI just want to say I wonn't live in Alberta again or anywhere else in North America.

I want my investments in Alberta dollarized. I believe Prez Trump might make that part of his offer to Alberta.

Beyond that, becoming a US state just makes sense. Canada is a giant anchor tied to Alberta. Ottawa will not let my former province reach it's full potential the way Texas, Alaska and North Dakota are allowed to develop. A vote against becoming a US state is a vote against prosperity.

I don't favour Alberta and Saskatchewan becoming a landlocked indie republic unless it is a stepping stone to statehood. Canada will not work with an indie Alberta out of spite.

Maybe an Alberta and Saskatchewan free Canada can try to coax California, Oregon and Washington State to join Canada. Win win all around.

Trade Commiefornia for Alberta and Saskatchewan. That guarantees the presidency and congress never fall into democRAT hands again.

For Canada, it guarantees it's collapse.

I just want to say I wonn't live in Alberta again or anywhere else in North America.

I want my investments in Alberta dollarized. I believe Prez Trump might make that part of his offer to Alberta.

Beyond that, becoming a US state just makes sense. Canada is a giant anchor tied to Alberta. Ottawa will not let my former province reach it's full potential the way Texas, Alaska and North Dakota are allowed to develop. A vote against becoming a US state is a vote against prosperity.

I don't favour Alberta and Saskatchewan becoming a landlocked indie republic unless it is a stepping stone to statehood. Canada will not work with an indie Alberta out of spite.

Maybe an Alberta and Saskatchewan free Canada can try to coax California, Oregon and Washington State to join Canada. Win win all around.

Quote from: Oliver the Second on April 30, 2025, 06:22:36 PMBuy stock in flag manufacturers, we're gonna need a whole bunch of new ones with 51 stars!

I hope so Ollie.

Buy stock in flag manufacturers, we're gonna need a whole bunch of new ones with 51 stars!

Old Herman isn't very bright. Farmers in the USA are suffering. The tariffs are killing them. Herman is already struggling with his hobby farm. If his province became a part of USA he would go bankrupt.