Quote from: Shen Li on Today at 12:31:48 AMI've only been across the border to Malaysia. I liked it. It is developed. It is clean and has good infrastructure. Certainly better than Canada.

I don't know about travelling to other countries in the region. Singapore is super rich, Malaysia is a middle income nation, but some of our neighbours are in the early stages of development and that would be a bit of a culture shock.

I do want to see Vietnam even though they hate Chinese. It is becoming the economic dynamo of East and SE Asia. I want to go there before it becomes too developed. And besides, I like pho. 

I read that a lot of investment is moving from China to Vietnam.

Quote from: Dove on July 31, 2025, 04:09:34 AMI think the Philippines have enough of dealing with Americans going over there to "pick wives" amd all that mess.

 Plus i like indoor plumbing lol

Other think I was going to remark on, there's really no need in this day and age to bolt and uproot themselves entirely to one country anymore Dove Dove. Especially for Americans or Canadians.

That may have been the way it was 30-40 years ago when the World was less connected financially and electronically. Back then people had to move away, pack up and uproot themselves to another country entirely.

But now...there's all these investor's visas, gold visas, dual citizenship, digital nomad arrangements that the host countries offer so many options to would be expats. They've made workplace mobility a reality. People can live 6 months here, 6 months there. Get a 1 year work visa, a five year one, whatever.

As I said before, I would seek out 2nd passport from another 1st world nation and treat the whole exercise as an additive as opposed to a subtractive one. Other words kill 2 birds with one stone. Why give up your citizenship, when you could get a passport of equal or perhaps superior value?

But that's just me. That's how I'd approach it. Get more not less.

Quote from: Herman on July 31, 2025, 04:26:59 PMOld Herman really likes South East Asia. They have a liad back way of life that is in stark contrast to the rich North East Asian countries Korea Japan and Taiwan.

I aint spent a lot of time in the Philippines, but we had a poster here CC who lived there for about five years. She said she loved it and missed it.

I know the feeling. I miss Borneo Sumatra Vietnam and the whole region.

I've only been across the border to Malaysia. I liked it. It is developed. It is clean and has good infrastructure. Certainly better than Canada.

I don't know about travelling to other countries in the region. Singapore is super rich, Malaysia is a middle income nation, but some of our neighbours are in the early stages of development and that would be a bit of a culture shock.

I do want to see Vietnam even though they hate Chinese. It is becoming the economic dynamo of East and SE Asia. I want to go there before it becomes too developed. And besides, I like pho. 

Quote from: Dove on July 31, 2025, 04:09:34 AMI think the Philippines have enough of dealing with Americans going over there to "pick wives" amd all that mess.

 Plus i like indoor plumbing lol

Old Herman really likes South East Asia. They have a liad back way of life that is in stark contrast to the rich North East Asian countries Korea Japan and Taiwan.

I aint spent a lot of time in the Philippines, but we had a poster here CC who lived there for about five years. She said she loved it and missed it.

I know the feeling. I miss Borneo Sumatra Vietnam and the whole region.

Quote from: Dove on July 31, 2025, 04:09:34 AMI think the Philippines have enough of dealing with Americans going over there to "pick wives" amd all that mess.

 Plus i like indoor plumbing lol

A lot of Filipino Canadians are returning to the Philippines to retire or buy a business.

I am pretty sure indoor plumbing is standard.

Quote from: JOE on July 29, 2025, 10:02:38 PMI don't see why people can't live abroad without renouncing their citizenship Dove Dove.

Many Americans are moving to places like the Philippines:

I don't deny that people will have to move more in the future for jobs or careers. That's quite possibly the new reality for your daughters & future generations of Canadians, Americans & other Westerners.

But I don't think people have to leave forever or uproot themselves anymore.

Why not just live in 2 places at once? Spend 6 mos in the US, 6 somewhere else.

Yes the world is changing but doesn't mean people cant change with it but same time not tearing everything asunder. Get the best of both worlds. That's how I'd approach it.

Anyway just a thought.

 I think the Philippines have enough of dealing with Americans going over there to "pick wives" amd all that mess.

 Plus i like indoor plumbing lol

Quote from: JOE on July 29, 2025, 10:02:38 PMI don't see why people can't live abroad without renouncing their citizenship

I don't see how you are able to breathe AND type at the same time. Someone that clueless they cannot see the inherent advantages of no longer being subject to shitty tax burdens, enforced medical experimentation and the encroaching dispossession of their capital and assets clearly has to be flat out concentrating on one thing at a time, let alone two.

Quote from: Dove on July 25, 2025, 01:25:19 PMI actually feel her on this one. She was in Canada for a reason and probably desired a comfortable and peaceful life in which to raise a family.

 And then leftarded politics and very poor leadership robbed her of that dream. And that sucks.

 Im happy for her she got outta there.

 Me? Im an American. Even if i had the resources to leave my country, id honestly rather die then do so.

 Maybe thats my patriotic brainwashing to view my country as the land of dreams and home of the brave and free....but, my corpse will be rotting in US soil and ill be voting for democrats after my death like every other American. 

I don't see why people can't live abroad without renouncing their citizenship Dove Dove.

Many Americans are moving to places like the Philippines:


I don't deny that people will have to move more in the future for jobs or careers. That's quite possibly the new reality for your daughters & future generations of Canadians, Americans & other Westerners.

But I don't think people have to leave forever or uproot themselves anymore.

Why not just live in 2 places at once? Spend 6 mos in the US, 6 somewhere else.

Yes the world is changing but doesn't mean people cant change with it but same time not tearing everything asunder. Get the best of both worlds. That's how I'd approach it.

Anyway just a thought.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on July 25, 2025, 05:45:56 PMScumbag libtarded progs fucked it up.

Speaking of Portugal. That dimwit witch lotuscrackaddict ran to Portugal after supporting the policies that destroyed her home state. Now she raves about how wonderful they are over there

yet, she manages to ignore things which she had serious moral issue with here. Take abortion for example. Portugal has stricter laws than even our strictest state but for some reason she is willing to overlook that in her continued braying about how wonderful the place is

this tells you all you need to know about these scumbags

She is a stunned cunt on a retirement visa. She doesn't know anything about Portugal like my kid brother and his family. They are citizens and speak the language.

Quote from: Shen Li on July 25, 2025, 05:34:22 PMEggs ackly!

The Canada we immigrated to from China in the 90's no longer exists. Canada of the 90's had all of the opportunities that the US had but without the social problems like high violent crime rates, mass poverty and rampant drug abuse. Now we have all of the problems the US has and even worse without any of the economic opportunities to get ahead.

Twelve years ago if someone asked if I would leave Canada some day I would have laughed at them. I thought I lived in the best country in the world. That just goes to illustrate how much Canada has fallen and how fast too.

I have 2 boys. I owe it to them to have them raised in a truly first world country with the only restraint placed on them is their own ambition. I owe it to them to have them raised in a country that doesn't restrict what they can post on social media. I owe it to them to live in a country where the mass transit system is not a travelling homeless shelter.

As for Joe, he is a harmless old troll. Hence the trophy thread. If he was young and had the resources he would prolly bail on Canada too like 110,000 Canadians did last year.

JoJo has trophy threads for you and Herman but not one for me. And I pay his bills.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on July 25, 2025, 05:47:29 PMWell put,. Shen and Godspeed to you are your boys and may all of the blessings you guys deserve follow you every where you go.

salute.

Thanx Biggz

Quote from: Shen Li on July 25, 2025, 05:34:22 PMEggs ackly!

The Canada we immigrated to from China in the 90's no longer exists. Canada of the 90's had all of the opportunities that the US had but without the social problems like high violent crime rates, mass poverty and rampant drug abuse. Now we have all of the problems the US has and even worse without any of the economic opportunities to get ahead.

Twelve years ago if someone asked if I would leave Canada some day I would have laughed at them. I thought I lived in the best country in the world. That just goes to illustrate how much Canada has fallen and how fast too.

I have 2 boys. I owe it to them to have them raised in a truly first world country with the only restraint placed on them is their own ambition. I owe it to them to have them raised in a country that doesn't restrict what they can post on social media. I owe it to them to live in a country where the mass transit system is not a travelling homeless shelter.

As for Joe, he is a harmless old troll. Hence the trophy thread. If he was young and had the resources he would prolly bail on Canada too like 110,000 Canadians did last year.

Well put,. Shen and Godspeed to you are your boys and may all of the blessings you guys deserve follow you every where you go.

salute.

Quote from: Herman on July 25, 2025, 03:19:54 PMIf my boy wasn't here I would not have returned to Canada after twenty six year sworking abroad. And Canada was not nearly fucked up then as it is now.

My kid brother is an overseas toolpush workin on offshore drilling platforms. He and his Italian-Agentine old lady have lived in Portugal for about twenty years.

He was in Canada last summer traveling from Montreal to Vancouver. He had not been here in years. He could not believe the crime, the poverty, the homelessness and the litter everywhere.

This country has really deteriorated and it keeps getting worse. It is why I support independence from the sinking Canadian nation.

Scumbag libtarded progs fucked it up.

Speaking of Portugal. That dimwit witch lotuscrackaddict ran to Portugal after supporting the policies that destroyed her home state. Now she raves about how wonderful they are over there

yet, she manages to ignore things which she had serious moral issue with here. Take abortion for example. Portugal has stricter laws than even our strictest state but for some reason she is willing to overlook that in her continued braying about how wonderful the place is

this tells you all you need to know about these scumbags

Quote from: Dove on July 25, 2025, 01:25:19 PMI actually feel her on this one. She was in Canada for a reason and probably desired a comfortable and peaceful life in which to raise a family.

 And then leftarded politics and very poor leadership robbed her of that dream. And that sucks.

 Im happy for her she got outta there.

 Me? Im an American. Even if i had the resources to leave my country, id honestly rather die then do so.

Eggs ackly!

The Canada we immigrated to from China in the 90's no longer exists. Canada of the 90's had all of the opportunities that the US had but without the social problems like high violent crime rates, mass poverty and rampant drug abuse. Now we have all of the problems the US has and even worse without any of the economic opportunities to get ahead.

Twelve years ago if someone asked if I would leave Canada some day I would have laughed at them. I thought I lived in the best country in the world. That just goes to illustrate how much Canada has fallen and how fast too.

I have 2 boys. I owe it to them to have them raised in a truly first world country with the only restraint placed on them is their own ambition. I owe it to them to have them raised in a country that doesn't restrict what they can post on social media. I owe it to them to live in a country where the mass transit system is not a travelling homeless shelter.

As for Joe, he is a harmless old troll. Hence the trophy thread. If he was young and had the resources he would prolly bail on Canada too like 110,000 Canadians did last year.

Quote from: Dove on July 25, 2025, 01:25:19 PMI actually feel her on this one. She was in Canada for a reason and probably desired a comfortable and peaceful life in which to raise a family.

 And then leftarded politics and very poor leadership robbed her of that dream. And that sucks.

 Im happy for her she got outta there.

 Me? Im an American. Even if i had the resources to leave my country, id honestly rather die then do so.

 Maybe thats my patriotic brainwashing to view my country as the land of dreams and home of the brave and free....but, my corpse will be rotting in US soil and ill be voting for democrats after my death like every other American. 

If my boy wasn't here I would not have returned to Canada after twenty six year sworking abroad. And Canada was not nearly fucked up then as it is now.

My kid brother is an overseas toolpush workin on offshore drilling platforms. He and his Italian-Agentine old lady have lived in Portugal for about twenty years.

He was in Canada last summer traveling from Montreal to Vancouver. He had not been here in years. He could not believe the crime, the poverty, the homelessness and the litter everywhere.

This country has really deteriorated and it keeps getting worse. It is why I support independence from the sinking Canadian nation.