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If I wasn't so lazy I'd peel the crap out and leave it here on the floor.Quote from: "RW"
This thread is no longer about Australian gun control.Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "SPECTRE"Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"How many more threads are we going to move here because you 2 wont get along?Quote from: "Keeper"
It's not on me these days. I've done my best to keep topics and flame wars separate and have had to remind someone else about it. They obviously fail to grasp how their behavior reflects on them and not me. Or they're doing it intentionally and don't care.
Besides being paranoid, Spectre is a moron.
You quit your insulting charade, and we'll be fine.
You keep playing the members, including me, for chumps with your idiocy and deceit, and I'll keep kicking your ass.Quote
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You are a troll.
This forum has no place for trolls.
Even a slightly handicapped drongo such as yourself can do those mathematics.Quote
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"How many more threads are we going to move here because you 2 wont get along?Quote from: "Keeper"
It's not on me these days. I've done my best to keep topics and flame wars separate and have had to remind someone else about it. They obviously fail to grasp how their behavior reflects on them and not me. Or they're doing it intentionally and don't care.
Besides being paranoid, Spectre is a moron.
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"How many more threads are we going to move here because you 2 wont get along?Quote from: "Keeper"
It's not on me these days. I've done my best to keep topics and flame wars separate and have had to remind someone else about it. They obviously fail to grasp how their behavior reflects on them and not me. Or they're doing it intentionally and don't care.
Besides being paranoid, Spectre is a moron.
How many more threads are we going to move here because you 2 wont get along?Quote from: "Keeper"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Quote from: "asal"Quote from: "Herman"Quote from: "asal"A short length of pipe and a firing mechanism.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"ac_toofunny http://www.skynews.com.au/news/national/2015/09/22/police-hold-new-concern-about-pipe-guns.html"> http://www.skynews.com.au/news/national ... -guns.html">http://www.skynews.com.au/news/national/2015/09/22/police-hold-new-concern-about-pipe-guns.html
No mass murders - so gun control has been effective. Just bad guys protecting themselves/attacking each other - not murdering masses. I get that weird people could make one for themselves, or buy one - but it is an extra step in place. When Australia has a similar frequency of mass murders to the States ... I'll eat my hat.
So, if it can only shoot one person at a time, you're ok with home made?
the scenarios offered: 1. bad guys attacking and defending themselves - keeping it within their circles vs 2. mass shootings by a sad person with mental problems killing innocent strangers (often) for no gain.
Premise: In these two scenarios, home made pipe guns are better.
A mental person could get hold of a home made pipe gun - the frequency of that happening is less than being able to buy one at a store because there are more barriers to access. Conclusion: Less frequency of mass murders is a better outcome.
You forgot a more dangerous and likely scenario.
In the middle of a windy summer heat spell, a bad guy or mentally ill retard drives along a highway throwing marine flares out the window into the dried grass and woodlands. He or she manages to cover 15 to 20 K's before they're stopped. The ensuing firestorm kills hundreds if not thousands and causes hundreds of billions in property and infrastructure damage.
Some motorists witnessed the flares being chucked, called the cops from their mobile phone, and followed the person. Some even attempt to drive him off the road with their vehicles. The arsonist waves what later turns out to be legally owned firearm and is not stopping. A single shot of a 12 gauge pipe shottie into the rear tyre might be enough to slow them down or completely stop them but alas, only, the cowardly and always late to the party cops here are the only ones permitted to have a loaded firearm on them in a moving vehicle much less in general, unless somebody flips out and disregards rules as in this case.
Some of the motorists who tried to stop him were pulling out of a road near their homes or out of their driveways. They lose loved ones. The arsonist planned his fire spree well. The hot winds were at their strongest and the temperature had been about 38C or more for over a week. The tinder was ripe for a firestorm.
The media and politicians call it an act of fire terrorism and they alongside the police call for greater control of marine flares, legally owned firearms, and the judicial system plans on stronger penalties.
If only everyday people were able to defend themselves and each other said nobody ever in Australia ever because we're a nation of weaklings on the hard topics. We don't have the stomach for it. We'd rather sports worship than take responsibility for ourselves and our communities.
Somehow, it's still about gun control though. Not vehicle control, fire control, mental illness control, or anything else. It's about the need to "get tough" or tougher on what amounts to a load of self serving government bullshit.
And what?Quote from: "SPECTRE"
I give a fuck what your vacuous rationale is?
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Plausible?Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Like you being too famous to be heard in person???
ac_lmfao
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