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Posted by Anonymous
 - August 12, 2022, 06:13:05 PM
Even if Taiwan agreed to be the Switzerland of Asia, China will not bully the world into no having diplomatic ties with the island.
Posted by Anonymous
 - August 12, 2022, 12:06:16 AM
Taiwan was for thirty years a staging ground for the USA-Japan-South Korea military alliance..



I've seen old American army bases near Taipei.
Posted by Garraty_47
 - August 11, 2022, 11:53:20 PM
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=470326 time=1660275002 user_id=3254
Taiwan has de facto independence....the only thing that makes de jure independence not an option is China's bullying..



But, it's current predicament is the fault of Generalissimo Chiang Kai Shek..



He was urged by the Japanese ambassador to the ROC in Taipei in the mid 1960's to change the title of the country to the Chinese Republic of Taiwan, but it meant recognizing the PRC which he would never do..



American ambassador to the UN in 1971, George HW Bush urged Chiang to recognize the PRC because most of the world was changing recognition of China from the ROC in Taiwan to the PRC in Peking..



Chiang refused to recognize the PRC and refused to change the name of Taiwan to keep it's seat in the UN and left after Resolution 2708 was passed..


That's all very interesting but it doesn't change the facts:



China will never allow Taiwan to become a staging ground for hostile powers (i.e. NATO) and who can blame them.



The moment Taiwan even looks to be amenable to such an arrangement is the moment it *will* be put solidly under Beijing's direct control by whatever means necessary.



Everything else is just diplomacy and economics.





Debating the minutia of who-signed-what-when and who-said-which-where is fascinating but academic.

Beijing would have to be incredibly stupid to permit, for example, USA naval and/or air bases to sprout like toxic mushrooms on Taiwan.

Whatever else Beijing may be, it's not stupid.

Even missile batteries or defense systems "gifted" to Taiwan would be clear acts of war and treated accordingly.



This is simply common sense and realism.



Approve... disapprove... makes no difference.

Taiwan either remains strictly neutral or merges (subordinately) with the mainland.

Any other move *will* result in an immediate invasion and forcible annexation by Beijing.



NATO's expansionism and aggression in service to the USA's undeclared global hegemony have left Beijing with no other choices.
Posted by Anonymous
 - August 11, 2022, 11:30:02 PM
Quote from: Garraty_47 post_id=470325 time=1660274190 user_id=3381
China will never allow Taiwan to become a staging ground for hostile powers (i.e. NATO) and who can blame them.



The moment Taiwan even looks to be amenable to such an arrangement is the moment it *will* be put solidly under Beijing's direct control by whatever means necessary.



Everything else is just diplomacy and economics.

Taiwan has de facto independence....the only thing that makes de jure independence not an option is China's bullying..



But, it's current predicament is the fault of Generalissimo Chiang Kai Shek..



He was urged by the Japanese ambassador to the ROC in Taipei in the mid 1960's to change the title of the country to the Chinese Republic of Taiwan, but it meant recognizing the PRC which he would never do..



American ambassador to the UN in 1971, George HW Bush urged Chiang to recognize the PRC because most of the world was changing recognition of China from the ROC in Taiwan to the PRC in Peking..



Chiang refused to recognize the PRC and refused to change the name of Taiwan to keep it's seat in the UN and left after Resolution 2708 was passed..
Posted by Garraty_47
 - August 11, 2022, 11:16:30 PM
China will never allow Taiwan to become a staging ground for hostile powers (i.e. NATO) and who can blame them.



The moment Taiwan even looks to be amenable to such an arrangement is the moment it *will* be put solidly under Beijing's direct control by whatever means necessary.



Everything else is just diplomacy and economics.
Posted by Anonymous
 - August 11, 2022, 10:48:02 PM
Oh fuck, here we go. :001_rolleyes:
Posted by Anonymous
 - August 11, 2022, 10:20:20 PM
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=470311 time=1660269438 user_id=3254
Quote from: Odinson post_id=470310 time=1660269034 user_id=136




What is then?



Qing dynasty?

It's undetermined..



Article One  of the Instrument of Surrender gave Chiang Kai Shek authority to accept surrender of Imperial Japan on behalf of the USA, but it didn't transfer sovereignty of Taiwan from Imperial Japan to the ROC..



The San Francisco Peace Treaty and the Treaty of Taipei didn't do that either..



This is why the PRC' claim to Taiwan is bogus.....it's predicated on the ROC having sovereignty over Taiwan and they never did..



The ROC exercises effective territorial control over Taiwan and the Pescdores, but it doesn't have sovereignty over it.

Dang kid. Aint you smart.
Posted by Anonymous
 - August 11, 2022, 09:57:18 PM
Quote from: Odinson post_id=470310 time=1660269034 user_id=136
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=470308 time=1660268748 user_id=3254


No, they aren't..



Neither the ROC or PRC is the legal government of Taiwan either.


What is then?



Qing dynasty?

It's undetermined..



Article One  of the Instrument of Surrender gave Chiang Kai Shek authority to accept surrender of Imperial Japan on behalf of the USA, but it didn't transfer sovereignty of Taiwan from Imperial Japan to the ROC..



The San Francisco Peace Treaty and the Treaty of Taipei didn't do that either..



This is why the PRC' claim to Taiwan is bogus.....it's predicated on the ROC having sovereignty over Taiwan and they never did..



The ROC exercises effective territorial control over Taiwan and the Pescdores, but it doesn't have sovereignty over it.
Posted by Odinson
 - August 11, 2022, 09:50:34 PM
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=470308 time=1660268748 user_id=3254
Quote from: Odinson post_id=470306 time=1660268588 user_id=136
I was thinking that... She looks hotter in other videos.





Question.



Is Republic of China the legal ruler over all of China?



Mao Zedongs commie thugs took over the country while the real government fled to Taiwan.

No, they aren't..



Neither the ROC or PRC is the legal government of Taiwan either.


What is then?



Qing dynasty?
Posted by Anonymous
 - August 11, 2022, 09:45:48 PM
Quote from: Odinson post_id=470306 time=1660268588 user_id=136
I was thinking that... She looks hotter in other videos.





Question.



Is Republic of China the legal ruler over all of China?



Mao Zedongs commie thugs took over the country while the real government fled to Taiwan.

No, they aren't..



Neither the ROC or PRC is the legal government of Taiwan either.
Posted by Odinson
 - August 11, 2022, 09:43:08 PM
I was thinking that... She looks hotter in other videos.





Question.



Is Republic of China the legal ruler over all of China?



Mao Zedongs commie thugs took over the country while the real government fled to Taiwan.
Posted by Anonymous
 - August 10, 2022, 08:32:32 PM
Quote from: Odinson post_id=470062 time=1660169283 user_id=136
She is beautiful... Aesthetically pleasing.



But she doesnt register in the boner-meter.

She is average. She has other videos where she looks better.
Posted by Odinson
 - August 10, 2022, 06:08:03 PM
She is beautiful... Aesthetically pleasing.



But she doesnt register in the boner-meter.
Posted by Anonymous
 - August 10, 2022, 12:34:19 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=469931 time=1660101163 user_id=56
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=469799 time=1660052275 user_id=3254


Mainlanders don't have opinions of their own.

Western countries shut down over COVID. They are destroying their economies because the climate is changing. China is not alone in believing what's drilled into their heads.

I would add gender to that as well. We no longer want a marketplace of ideas in Canada.
Posted by Anonymous
 - August 09, 2022, 11:12:43 PM
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=469799 time=1660052275 user_id=3254
Quote from: Dove post_id=469735 time=1660011171 user_id=3266




 They must be ridiculous because most all the Asain women I see are stunning.



 The skin on you ladies....its like flawless glass.  Even elderly Asain women are adorable.



 Fuck China. They are stupid.  ac_drinks

Mainlanders don't have opinions of their own.

Western countries shut down over COVID. They are destroying their economies because the climate is changing. China is not alone in believing what's drilled into their heads.