THeBlueCashew

Geeze... careful if you have an unhealthy liver.


What organs can ivermectin damage?


"Ivermectin is potentially a very toxic drug," Dr. Uslan says. "There have been lots of cases of liver problems and liver failure, severe GI upset and even things like seizure and coma."

3 Sept 2021
https://www.uclahealth.org › news


What is ivermectin? How a livestock dewormer became a rumored ...

If you're going to take anti-parasitics desiqned for species other than your own, then you deserve what you get. I note with some wry amusement that the very same oeople who poo-poohed Ivermectin in the treatment of covid were also the first yahoos to recommend the use of equine grade medicines to abortion seekers when Roe v Wade was overturned.

Fact is there is also a human grade Ivermectin treatment. It won its developers the 2016 Nobel Prize. Are there side effects? I would be amazed if there wasn't, nothing is 100% safe and effective, but that's why you consult with your doctor.

Assuming your doctor isn't shit scared of losing their license because certain moneyed interests have cleared the table of all proven treatments just so they can get their profit margin pumping.

I bought 15 bottles of Quercetin, D3, Zinc, and Vit C... at the start.

Combined with the fact that I've only had 4-5 jabs in my early life in the 70/80's, I'm fucking GOLDEN now.

Ivermectin is great stuff, but if there is a blockade, you find alternative treatments.

Quote from: caskur on August 29, 2023, 05:59:30 AMGeeze... careful if you have an unhealthy liver.


What organs can ivermectin damage?


"Ivermectin is potentially a very toxic drug," Dr. Uslan says. "There have been lots of cases of liver problems and liver failure, severe GI upset and even things like seizure and coma."

3 Sept 2021
https://www.uclahealth.org › news


What is ivermectin? How a livestock dewormer became a rumored ...

 A doctor should know literally everything is potentially toxic. What makes something toxic is the amount and route of transmission.

 Meaning orange juice won't hurt you if you drink it....but you don't wanna inject it into your blood stream

 And water will kill you if you drink too much of it.

 Toxicity is just the dose

lmmfao.... you motherfuckers are so unbelievably stupid.... ivermectin was included in immigrant care packages for decades prior to covid.... i can assure you the government isn't gonna put poison in an immigrant.... that would be an international nightmare.... which ironically, is why they didn't force immigrants to be vaccinated for covid either.... the campaign against ivermectin had two reasons.... first of all, by being a safe treatment it nullified the emergency use authorization for the jab.... secondly the patent had expired meaning that ANYONE can manufacture it.... that makes "high profit" impossible.... you gullible fuckin idiots think that the liberal media "warned" you of the dangers of ivermectin to PROTECT YOU??? lmmfao.... the same media that heralds remdesivir as a medical miracle? remdesivir has the same "survivability" as fuckin cancer.... and remdesivir and a respirator combined are a fuckin death sentence.... you motherfuckers are retarded.... turn off the tv.... you might live a little longer.... fuckin sheeple....  :crampe:

Quote from: deadskinmask on August 29, 2023, 09:17:01 AMlmmfao.... you motherfuckers are so unbelievably stupid.... ivermectin was included in immigrant care packages for decades prior to covid.... i can assure you the government isn't gonna put poison in an immigrant.... that would be an international nightmare.... which ironically, is why they didn't force immigrants to be vaccinated for covid either.... the campaign against ivermectin had two reasons.... first of all, by being a safe treatment it nullified the emergency use authorization for the jab.... secondly the patent had expired meaning that ANYONE can manufacture it.... that makes "high profit" impossible.... you gullible fuckin idiots think that the liberal media "warned" you of the dangers of ivermectin to PROTECT YOU??? lmmfao.... the same media that heralds remdesivir as a medical miracle? remdesivir has the same "survivability" as fuckin cancer.... and remdesivir and a respirator combined are a fuckin death sentence.... you motherfuckers are retarded.... turn off the tv.... you might live a little longer.... fuckin sheeple....  :crampe:

Ivermectin only became a toxin when it was dicovered it could put an end to a good emergency.

i bet the same idiots who think "ivermectin is bad" are the same goofs that are shot full of clot enhancer....  :crampe:

Quote from: deadskinmask on August 29, 2023, 09:30:27 AMi bet the same idiots who think "ivermectin is bad" are the same goofs that are shot full of clot enhancer....  :crampe:

Absolutely.

Hot to Clot Trotters; The Story of the Covidiot Era Swindle

(NEXT ON LIFETIME CUT SHORT CHANNEL)

i have a friend who likes to wait till we're in public.... he grabs his chest and says loudly "i'm having a climate change"....  :crampe:

Quote from: deadskinmask on August 29, 2023, 09:40:19 AMi have a friend who likes to wait till we're in public.... he grabs his chest and says loudly "i'm having a climate change"....  :crampe:

:s_laugh:

Quote from: deadskinmask on August 29, 2023, 09:40:19 AMi have a friend who likes to wait till we're in public.... he grabs his chest and says loudly "i'm having a climate change"....  :crampe:

(https://i.postimg.cc/25HLYTy2/20230829-235937.gif)

heres some more safety tips for you "ivermectin is horse medicine" clowns.... avoid water. they use it to clean toilets.... and don't breathe oxygen. they use it to make horses run faster....  :crampe:

I had to have antivirals. It cost the government $1,000 for me to take them now they only want 70 plus year old people to get them...  oops, obviously the Labor government can't afford to give everyone antivirals these days.



What antivirals are given for COVID?


Lagevrio and Paxlovid are oral COVID-19 antiviral medicines (taken by mouth) that help to stop the COVID-19 infection from becoming severe and making you very sick. Lagevrio and Paxlovid can be prescribed by your doctor or nurse practitioner.


https://www.healthdirect.gov.au › m...
COVID-19 medications and antivirals - Healthdirect


I think I'll pass on believing horse worming medicine stops covid.

COVID has killed nearly 7 million. Not as many as we thought it would.

Quote from: deadskinmask on August 29, 2023, 09:30:27 AMi bet the same idiots who think "ivermectin is bad" are the same goofs that are shot full of clot enhancer....  :crampe:

Or saline shots, it's pretty much an open secret now the jabs were never intended as a preventative in the first place. I'd suspected as much all along, right from the point when all curatives and preventatives were being banned by governments worldwide. So pretty much from the beginning of the Scamdemic.

But then anyone that was paying attention could have worked that much out for themselves. The clue was in the name... "coronavirus". People have been catching coronavirus infections for countless generations; along with the rhinovirus family, coronavirii are the pathogens that most people previously knew as "the common cold". Something you could easily beat on your own provided you weren't some old, fat, asthmatic fuck with the immune system of your average AIDS sufferer.

You know what else inhibits coronaviral infections? Nicotine. It too is a poison in administered in high enough quantities and if your delivery mechanism is burning tobacco leaves then there's side effects like COPD you get to contend with. Vaping it is a much less damaging form of administering it, so you can guess (correctly I contend) one of the reasons why scare-pieces are periodically dumped out into the public eye on the matter while almost nothing is mentioned about the tests conducted on its lethality against much smaller organisms... like virii.

The scamdemic was a grift from the start. I know it. You know it. Everything regarding the way the "experts" went about it points to it. A moneymaking exercise and another attempt to yoke the gullible into suspending all logic and reason and accepting the State's leash on a permanent basis.

Eventually it will kill them. And it will all get blamed on the people that survived it by standing fast and declaring the self-styled "experts" to be full of shit.

we were NEVER told the vaccine was a preventative, we were told if you were vaccinated you were less likely to go to hospital and you were less likely to die.

And that is true. While 3 times vaccinated Kurt had covid, he was able to nurse me through my covid.

I would have died without antivirals.

If I hadn't stopped smoking, I definitely would have died. My lungs were under excrutiating agony.

 

Bullshit. Government, the media, and big pharma lied their asses off like they do about everything.

Yes, they claimed the vaccines would prevent transmission
https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/human-body/yes-they-claimed-the-vaccines-would-prevent-transmission/news-story/a176eb002c29e603fc29ef9fe0b33b18

This is how vaccines help reduce the spread of COVID-19
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/11/covid-19-vaccination-spread/

Fauci: Vaccinated people become 'dead ends' for the coronavirus
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/553773-fauci-vaccinated-people-become-dead-ends-for-the-coronavirus/

Quote from: caskur on August 29, 2023, 09:00:20 PMwe were NEVER told the vaccine was a preventative, we were told if you were vaccinated you were less likely to go to hospital and you were less likely to die.

And that is true. While 3 times vaccinated Kurt had covid, he was able to nurse me through my covid.

I would have died without antivirals.

If I hadn't stopped smoking, I definitely would have died. My lungs were under excrutiating agony.

 

I had the sniffles for three days back in 2020, and then again in early 2022.  Was it the Covid?  I dunno, even though I had a shelf full of Covid tests the government kept sending me, I never used one.  I just tossed them in the garbage a few months ago.

Kurt shouldn't a got them jabs.

Quote from: Reggie Essent on August 29, 2023, 09:35:13 PMI had the sniffles for three days back in 2020, and then again in early 2022.  Was it the Covid?  I dunno, even though I had a shelf full of Covid tests the government kept sending me, I never used one.  I just tossed them in the garbage a few months ago.

Kurt shouldn't a got them jabs.

I aint worried about the jabs I got. But, they sure as hell do not prevent folks from getting the rona and that is what we paid billions and billions for.

Quote from: Herman on August 29, 2023, 09:08:59 PMBullshit. Government, the media, and big pharma lied their asses off like they do about everything.

Yes, they claimed the vaccines would prevent transmission
https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/human-body/yes-they-claimed-the-vaccines-would-prevent-transmission/news-story/a176eb002c29e603fc29ef9fe0b33b18

This is how vaccines help reduce the spread of COVID-19
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/11/covid-19-vaccination-spread/

Fauci: Vaccinated people become 'dead ends' for the coronavirus
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/553773-fauci-vaccinated-people-become-dead-ends-for-the-coronavirus/

All the information I got was from ABC doctors about the vaccines and was correct as I wrote it.... And yes from other sources I saw them declare false information like the unofficial links you provided. There was the real informaton going around from the government then there was the misinformation going around from sources like you just posted.

Quote from: deadskinmask on August 29, 2023, 09:30:27 AMi bet the same idiots who think "ivermectin is bad" are the same goofs that are shot full of clot enhancer....  :crampe:

Ivermectin's purpose is for worming horses. That is what it is for.

The clot shot is for humans to cure their covid infestation quicker and stop them dying was the theory and apparently it is now a fact. Percentage of deaths by covid in Australia is now .4%.....we are all vaccinated.

Quote from: caskur on August 29, 2023, 10:08:11 PMIvermectin's purpose is for worming horses. That is what it is for.

The clot shot is for humans to cure their covid infestation quicker and stop them dying was the theory and apparently it is now a fact. Percentage of deaths by covid in Australia is now .4%.....we are all vaccinated.

That is what the government, the media, and big pharma told us about Ivermectin, but they were the same lying pricks who told us the useless vaccines would stop the spred.


https://www.westernjournal.com/fda-forced-walk-back-smug-anti-ivermectin-post-makes-huge-admission-drug/
After years of denigrating ivermectin as dangerous and as "horse medicine," the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has been forced to backtrack on a smug tweet posted in 2021 and acknowledge, yet again, that ivermectin can be prescribed to humans. This thanks to three doctors who sued the agency in federal court, claiming the FDA had impeded their right as medical providers to prescribe the medicine to their patients.

The acknowledgement took place during an Aug. 8 proceeding in which lawyers for the doctors asked the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals whether doctors have a right to prescribe ivermectin since the FDA approved the drug for use in humans way back in 1986.

plus all the vaccinated people in their late 60s to early 80s are alive  and well and haven't caught covid yet..... and more importantly haven't dropped dead from their free clot shots...

you people are paranoid and feed off each others paranoia.

 :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:

Quote from: Reggie Essent on August 29, 2023, 09:35:13 PMI had the sniffles for three days back in 2020, and then again in early 2022.  Was it the Covid?  I dunno, even though I had a shelf full of Covid tests the government kept sending me, I never used one.  I just tossed them in the garbage a few months ago.

Kurt shouldn't a got them jabs.

We had many negative RAT tests... don't throw them away, they are crucial...I had 2 vaccinations. 8 weeks later I had covid and because the RATS said I was postive I was able to get the antiviral immediately. You have to take the antiviral within the first 5 days of getting covid.

the antiviral was/is a game changer.

Quote from: caskur on August 29, 2023, 10:18:44 PMplus all the vaccinated people in their late 60s to early 80s are alive  and well and haven't caught covid yet..... and more importantly haven't dropped dead from their free clot shots...

you people are paranoid and feed off each others paranoia.

 :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:

Wrong again.

Vaccines offer little protection against long Covid, study finds
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/vaccines-offer-little-protection-long-covid-study-finds-rcna30467

The vaccines were a multi billion dollar ripoff by big pharma will full compliance as usual from governments, and the media.

You live in a developed English speaking country. You should know better than to believe anything you are told by "science", government or the media.

The woman who invented covid vaccine. Nothing to do with big pharma....lol


Professor Gilbert co-developed the Oxford AstraZeneca covid vaccine which was one of the first vaccines available for use in the UK and around the world during the Covid pandemic, credited with saving a million lives. More than two billion doses have been distributed to at least 170 countries.18 July 2022
https://www.bath.ac.uk › covid-vacc...
Covid vaccine pioneer Dame Professor Sarah Gilbert ...


https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55043551


Of course AstraZenica was taken off the market due to health concerns in younger people.

The U.S. Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority has given AstraZeneca more than $1 billion in funding for the coronavirus vaccine. That is one country alone.

I remember they stopped giving the AZ vaccine to a lot of age groups in Canada because too many folks were dying from blood clots.

If caskur is going to give credit to big pharma for something they did not do and that is save lives, then she should hold those same corporatist scumbags responsible for the deaths their bullshit vaccines caused.

You will have to find the links yourselves but this story is from the BBC.

I HAVE SEEN YOU VACCINE CONSPIRISTS think this covid vaccine was just started being produced AFTER covid starting spreading which is UNTRUE.


Oxford vaccine: How did they make it so quickly?
Published
23 November 2020


Trials of the vaccine have been carried out around the world

By James Gallagher
Health and science correspondent

Ten years' vaccine work achieved in about 10 months. Yet no corners cut in designing, testing and manufacturing.

They are two statements that sound like a contradiction, and have led some to ask how we can be sure the Oxford vaccine - which has published its first results showing it is highly effective at stopping Covid-19 - is safe when it has been made so fast.

So, this is the real story of how the Oxford vaccine happened so quickly.

It is one that relies on good fortune as well as scientific brilliance; has origins in both a deadly Ebola outbreak and a chimpanzee's runny nose; and sees the researchers go from having no money in the bank to chartering private planes.

The work started years ago
Scientist working on the vaccinePA
We were planning how can we go really quickly to have a vaccine in someone in the shortest possible time
Prof Sarah Gilbert
The biggest misconception is the work on the vaccine started when the pandemic began.

ADVERTISEMENT

The world's biggest Ebola outbreak in 2014-2016 was a catastrophe. The response was too slow and 11,000 people died.

"The world should have done better," Prof Sarah Gilbert, the architect of the Oxford vaccine, told me.

In the recriminations that followed, a plan emerged for how to tackle the next big one. At the end of a list of known threats was "Disease X" - the sinister name of a new, unknown infection that would take the world by surprise.

The Jenner Institute at the University of Oxford - named after the scientist that performed the first vaccination in 1796, and now home to some of the world's leading experts - designed a strategy for defeating an unknown enemy.

"We were planning how can we go really quickly to have a vaccine in someone in the shortest possible time," Prof Gilbert said.

"We hadn't got the plan finished, but we did do pretty well."

The critical piece of technology
The central piece of their plan was a revolutionary style of vaccine known as "plug and play". It has two highly desirable traits for facing the unknown - it is both fast and flexible.

Conventional vaccines - including the whole of the childhood immunisation programme - use a killed or weakened form of the original infection, or inject fragments of it into the body. But these are slow to develop.

Instead the Oxford researchers constructed ChAdOx1 - or Chimpanzee Adenovirus Oxford One.

Scientists took a common cold virus that infected chimpanzees and engineered it to become the building block of a vaccine against almost anything.

Before Covid, 330 people had been given ChAdOx1 based-vaccines for diseases ranging from flu to Zika virus, and prostate cancer to the tropical disease chikungunya.

The virus from chimps is genetically modified so it cannot cause an infection in people. It can then be modified again to contain the genetic blueprints for whatever you want to train the immune system to attack. This target is known is an antigen.

ChAdOx1 is in essence a sophisticated, microscopic postman. All the scientists have to do is change the package.

"We drop it in and off we go," said Prof Gilbert.

January 1

That is really misleading, but what does anybody expect from the BBC. BBC stands for British Bullshit Corporation.

The BBC is talking about research on MRNA vaccines in general, not these ripoff vaccines that even the CEO of Pfizer was forced to acknowledge are useless.

Pfizer CEO: Our Vaccines Offer 'Limited, If Any Protection'
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2022/01/11/pfizer-ceo-our-vaccines-offer-little-protection-n2601670

Quote from: Herman on August 29, 2023, 10:55:16 PMI remember they stopped giving the AZ vaccine to a lot of age groups in Canada because too many folks were dying from blood clots.

If caskur is going to give credit to big pharma for something they did not do and that is save lives, then she should hold those same corporatist scumbags responsible for the deaths their bullshit vaccines caused.

God kills more people from bee stings than big pharma killed from clot shots.

We can't save everyone.

Quote from: Herman on August 29, 2023, 11:21:42 PMThat is really misleading, but what does anybody expect from the BBC. BBC stands for British Bullshit Corporation.

The BBC is talking about research on MRNA vaccines in general, not these ripoff vaccines that even the CEO of Pfizer was forced to acknowledge are useless.

Pfizer CEO: Our Vaccines Offer 'Limited, If Any Protection'
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2022/01/11/pfizer-ceo-our-vaccines-offer-little-protection-n2601670

Well, that is probably true except Prof Gilbert the covid vaccine developer thinks otherwise.... And she worked on the vaccine for 10 yeaars.

I hedged my bets in the long run and stopped listening to you paranoid dupes and got vaxxed with Novavax ....I was also lucky to come down with covid 2 months after the antiviral came on the market or I'd be history now.

 Ivermectin won't save you from Covid.... That is the biggest load of garbage out there.

Where are the stories of Ivermectin cures...Got any credible ones Herm???

Quote from: caskur on August 29, 2023, 10:27:06 PMWe had many negative RAT tests... don't throw them away, they are crucial...I had 2 vaccinations. 8 weeks later I had covid and because the RATS said I was postive I was able to get the antiviral immediately. You have to take the antiviral within the first 5 days of getting covid.

the antiviral was/is a game changer.

Bah!  It was all a hoax, Cas.  When I get the sniffles, I load up on Vitamin C and zinc, and sure enough two or three days later I feel better.  Didn't need test, didn't need antivirals, didn't need a vax or anything else that the taxpayers shelled out billions for ... and neither did anyone else according to the latest data.

I think you Aussies got had the worst.

Quote from: caskur on August 29, 2023, 11:30:18 PMGod kills more people from bee stings than big pharma killed from clot shots.

We can't save everyone.

About fifty eight percent of the COVID deaths one year ago in the US were fully vaccinated. The only thing those bullshit vaccines saved was the bottom line of big pharma.

Quote from: caskur on August 29, 2023, 11:42:40 PMWell, that is probably true except Prof Gilbert the covid vaccine developer thinks otherwise.... And she worked on the vaccine for 10 yeaars.

I hedged my bets in the long run and stopped listening to you paranoid dupes and got vaxxed with Novavax ....I was also lucky to come down with covid 2 m

Quote from: caskur on August 29, 2023, 11:42:40 PMWell, that is probably true except Prof Gilbert the covid vaccine developer thinks otherwise.... And she worked on the vaccine for 10 yeaars.

I hedged my bets in the long run and stopped listening to you paranoid dupes and got vaxxed with Novavax ....I was also lucky to come down with covid 2 months after the antiviral came on the market or I'd be history now.

 Ivermectin won't save you from Covid.... That is the biggest load of garbage out there.

Where are the stories of Ivermectin cures...Got any credible ones Herm???

onths after the antiviral came on the market or I'd be history now.

 Ivermectin won't save you from Covid.... That is the biggest load of garbage out there.

Where are the stories of Ivermectin cures...Got any credible ones Herm???

Vaccines will not save you from COVID either, but yet you are still in denial despite the fact that we now know they did not do what we paid big pharma billions for.

Ivermectin has been used for almost forty years in the US. It may or may not work as a treatment. Same with Zip packs and hydroxychloroquine.

Quote from: Reggie Essent on August 30, 2023, 12:17:40 AMBah!  It was all a hoax, Cas.  When I get the sniffles, I load up on Vitamin C and zinc, and sure enough two or three days later I feel better.  Didn't need test, didn't need antivirals, didn't need a vax or anything else that the taxpayers shelled out billions for ... and neither did anyone else according to the latest data.

I think you Aussies got had the worst.

Big pharma should be sued into near extinction the way Perdue was over Oxy. Instead our scumbag governments are giving them more money for the next variant. Damn, we are stupid.

Quote from: Herman on August 30, 2023, 12:30:40 AMBig pharma should be sued into near extinction the way Perdue was over Oxy. Instead our scumbag governments are giving them more money for the next variant. Damn, we are stupid.

We were. It's also a bit fishy how they came out with a vaccine so quickly.  Normally, vaccines takes years to be developed, tested, approved and then manufactured and distributed.  They did this in, what, less than a year? 

Almost as if they were all ramped up and ready to go even before that dumb chink in the Wuhan laboratory got bat piss on her hands and then wiped her eyes before clocking out and strolling down to the wet market for a bowl of bat soup.

I'm telling you!  It was all a scam.

Quote from: Reggie Essent on August 30, 2023, 12:37:30 AMWe were. It's also a bit fishy how they came out with a vaccine so quickly.  Normally, vaccines takes years to be developed, tested, approved and then manufactured and distributed.  They did this in, what, less than a year? 

Almost as if they were all ramped up and ready to go even before that dumb chink in the Wuhan laboratory got bat piss on her hands and then wiped her eyes before clocking out and strolling down to the wet market for a bowl of bat soup.

I'm telling you!  It was all a scam.

Vaccines should be fifty five percent effective in order to be considered vaccines. By the CDC's own admission they were about 22 peecent effective on variants. Even that number seems fishy. If you didn't catch COVID or if you did and did not go to the hospital they are giving credit to big pharma for something even they were forced to admit was ineffective.

These vaccines were all about money and had nothing to do with preventing the spread or saving lives. And the scam moves to the next phase.

Quote from: Herman on August 30, 2023, 12:43:09 AMThese vaccines were all about money and had nothing to do with preventing the spread or saving lives. And the scam moves to the next phase.

They were about control, brother.  I saw some idiot driving in his car alone with a mask on today.  Must be a new variant.

Quote from: Reggie Essent on August 30, 2023, 12:46:19 AMThey were about control, brother.  I saw some idiot driving in his car alone with a mask on today.  Must be a new variant.

That too. But, they made a lot of money from it. I suppose I should not complaim. The old lady and I saw our pharma stocks soar.

And don't remind me about masking. That along with the denial of lab leaks, the ineffectiveness of the scam vaccines was another lie were told.

Quote from: Reggie Essent on August 30, 2023, 12:17:40 AMBah!  It was all a hoax, Cas.  When I get the sniffles, I load up on Vitamin C and zinc, and sure enough two or three days later I feel better.  Didn't need test, didn't need antivirals, didn't need a vax or anything else that the taxpayers shelled out billions for ... and neither did anyone else according to the latest data.

I think you Aussies got had the worst.

You haven't had covid yet.

I know you think you are trying to humour me but at your age you need to take this seriously...

I also take zinc, vit C and D3 everyday.

The pain at the top of my lungs was the worst pain I ever had.

My variety of covid was Omicron.

Quote from: Reggie Essent on August 30, 2023, 12:37:30 AMWe were. It's also a bit fishy how they came out with a vaccine so quickly.  Normally, vaccines takes years to be developed, tested, approved and then manufactured and distributed.  They did this in, what, less than a year? 

Almost as if they were all ramped up and ready to go even before that dumb chink in the Wuhan laboratory got bat piss on her hands and then wiped her eyes before clocking out and strolling down to the wet market for a bowl of bat soup.

I'm telling you!  It was all a scam.

it was not being worked on in less than year... I know you are too lazy to read posts .... the vaccine was being worked on for 10 years by Prof. Gilbert.

Just Ggoogle her before you go any further.

Quote from: Reggie Essent on August 30, 2023, 12:37:30 AMI'm telling you!  It was all a scam.

Tell that to the undertaker who carried off a cruise ship 9 elderly dead German tourists in Fremantle harbour Feb/March 2020...

Quote from: caskur on August 29, 2023, 11:03:33 PMYou will have to find the links yourselves but this story is from the BBC.

I HAVE SEEN YOU VACCINE CONSPIRISTS think this covid vaccine was just started being produced AFTER covid starting spreading which is UNTRUE.


Oxford vaccine: How did they make it so quickly?
Published
23 November 2020


Trials of the vaccine have been carried out around the world

By James Gallagher
Health and science correspondent

Ten years' vaccine work achieved in about 10 months. Yet no corners cut in designing, testing and manufacturing.

They are two statements that sound like a contradiction, and have led some to ask how we can be sure the Oxford vaccine - which has published its first results showing it is highly effective at stopping Covid-19 - is safe when it has been made so fast.

So, this is the real story of how the Oxford vaccine happened so quickly.

It is one that relies on good fortune as well as scientific brilliance; has origins in both a deadly Ebola outbreak and a chimpanzee's runny nose; and sees the researchers go from having no money in the bank to chartering private planes.

The work started years ago
Scientist working on the vaccinePA
We were planning how can we go really quickly to have a vaccine in someone in the shortest possible time
Prof Sarah Gilbert
The biggest misconception is the work on the vaccine started when the pandemic began.

ADVERTISEMENT

The world's biggest Ebola outbreak in 2014-2016 was a catastrophe. The response was too slow and 11,000 people died.

"The world should have done better," Prof Sarah Gilbert, the architect of the Oxford vaccine, told me.

In the recriminations that followed, a plan emerged for how to tackle the next big one. At the end of a list of known threats was "Disease X" - the sinister name of a new, unknown infection that would take the world by surprise.

The Jenner Institute at the University of Oxford - named after the scientist that performed the first vaccination in 1796, and now home to some of the world's leading experts - designed a strategy for defeating an unknown enemy.

"We were planning how can we go really quickly to have a vaccine in someone in the shortest possible time," Prof Gilbert said.

"We hadn't got the plan finished, but we did do pretty well."

The critical piece of technology
The central piece of their plan was a revolutionary style of vaccine known as "plug and play". It has two highly desirable traits for facing the unknown - it is both fast and flexible.

Conventional vaccines - including the whole of the childhood immunisation programme - use a killed or weakened form of the original infection, or inject fragments of it into the body. But these are slow to develop.

Instead the Oxford researchers constructed ChAdOx1 - or Chimpanzee Adenovirus Oxford One.

Scientists took a common cold virus that infected chimpanzees and engineered it to become the building block of a vaccine against almost anything.

Before Covid, 330 people had been given ChAdOx1 based-vaccines for diseases ranging from flu to Zika virus, and prostate cancer to the tropical disease chikungunya.

The virus from chimps is genetically modified so it cannot cause an infection in people. It can then be modified again to contain the genetic blueprints for whatever you want to train the immune system to attack. This target is known is an antigen.

ChAdOx1 is in essence a sophisticated, microscopic postman. All the scientists have to do is change the package.

"We drop it in and off we go," said Prof Gilbert.

January 1

I got as far as "BBC" and didn't bother to read anything further.

The ABC like the BBC, CBC, NPR, and a whole slew of government funded news spews wank tanks across the Western World are propaganda arms tasked with manipulating the gullible, the lazy, the stupid, the elderly, and in most cases... all four of these tags apply simultaneously to their stalwart consumers of unbridled SHIT!

You think you're smart but sometimes I question that.

That is OK Frood, I also ignore most of your under-researched rubbish on your alternative paranoid sites.

I laugh when you reject the truth.

Quote from: caskur on August 29, 2023, 09:00:20 PMwe were NEVER told the vaccine was a preventative, we were told if you were vaccinated you were less likely to go to hospital and you were less likely to die.

Well you mightn't have been in the habit of paying attention to the media at the time, I was and I distinctively recall it being called a "vaccination" which was "100% safe and effective". This was repeated ad nauseum on all the mainstream outlets for months on end at a time when the term "vaccination" was synonymous with "immunization".

We were told we would not catch it if we were vaccinated. That is the textbook definition of a preventative. And when the infection rates among the vaccinated became too much of a bugbear, then and only then did the narrative shift to tales of reduced symptoms, less chance of mortality, less chance of hospital stays etc. Which also proved to be a load of complete bullshit in many cases with hospitals and clinics refusing to admit the un-jabbed... for anything... while people openly called for them to die horribly.

The dictionary definition of "vaccine" was also amended somewhere around this time to accommodate the ineffectiveness of the clot shots.

Now, you might contest you don't (or won't) remember all of this, I'm not phazed how you choose to proceed because I remember it all going down, particularly the insanely illogical hoops we as a species were supposed to jump through to eliminate this pathogen. My recollection of the chain of events do not hinge on the imperfect testimony of others, I've clipped enough videos regarding this topic over the last three years, including that "gotcha" moment when your own prime mincer declared on ABC-TV that the Australian Government had no intention of subsidizing anyone who had an adverse reaction to the shots which were at the time being touted as "100% safe and effective" 24/7. I also have a clip of the then opposition leader (later elected the current prime mincer) saying the PM of the day wasn't being effective enough and that his party would go even harder... on the vaccines, the lockdowns, the mandates (which six months previously had been dismissed as "conspiracy theory"), covid passports (also at one time a conspiracy theory)... the whole deal. I also saw how certain of our number seemed to get a free pass on all of this... and stirke me lucky, they were the ones hectoring us the loudest to go get our "totally your choice to take" vaccines so we could go back to the freedoms of pre-covid 2019.

All bullshit of course, but I remember it all the same. As do others. You don't? Maybe you've got some of those newfangled stringy clots in your hippocampus, I dunno.

Quote from: caskur on August 30, 2023, 04:43:55 AMThat is OK Frood, I also ignore most of your under-researched rubbish on your alternative paranoid sites.

I laugh when you reject the truth.

I fear for K's life...

Quote from: Frood on August 30, 2023, 05:52:51 AMI fear for K's life...

I don't. Everyone should enjoy the right to drive themselves to Hell in their own handcart.

Quote from: Herman on August 29, 2023, 09:42:12 PMI aint worried about the jabs I got. But, they sure as hell do not prevent folks from getting the rona and that is what we paid billions and billions for.

And isn't it just too precious that these alleged vaccines, paid for with your tax dollars, are things you don't own the right of insoection to and likely never will?

Quote from: caskur on August 29, 2023, 10:08:11 PMIvermectin's purpose is for worming horses. That is what it is for.

The veterinary variety of Ivermectin, sure. And as I said earlier, if you are stupid enough to take that version, then you deserve what you get.

Put down your fixation on the horse dewormers and pay attention; there has been Ivermectin for humans since 1988. It has been used to treat River Blindness (Onchocerciasis), threadworms, elephantitis, hookworm and scabies, among other maladies. It has previously been recognized as instrumental in promoting community health and has far fewer side effects than most drugs, all factors which led to it's chief researchers being awarded a Nobel Prize for it in 2016.

And as DSM points out, having shown such promise in dealing with Covid, a roadblock in the way of dickheads like Pfizer rushing untested pseudo-treatments to market under an emergency use authorization. Because (and Pfizer have openly admitted to this) actual testing of their mRNA treatments is for all intents and purposes non-existant. They've admitted this in at least one European Union medical inquiry of which I am aware, the cynic in me says they were thumbing their noses at the EU in the sure knowledge that governments the world over have indemnified them from any and all prosecution arising from the "vaccine injured".

But if you were getting all your talking points from ABC News 24 then I'm not surprised you were unaware.


The clot shot is for humans to cure their covid infestation quicker and stop them dying was the theory and apparently it is now a fact. Percentage of deaths by covid in Australia is now .4%.....we are all vaccinated.
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No, you aren't. I know a number of Aussies who refuse point blank to get it, I also know or more who regret getting the shots and who have refused point blank to continue with the boosters. They are considered "unvaxxed" by your government because of this.

Finding the exact numbers of these is difficult, because your own government is no longer publishing the numbers.Strange, they were very keen to publish them a couple of years back, it's almost like they're... hiding something.

Quote from: Herman on August 29, 2023, 10:55:16 PMI remember they stopped giving the AZ vaccine to a lot of age groups in Canada because too many folks were dying from blood clots.

If caskur is going to give credit to big pharma for something they did not do and that is save lives, then she should hold those same corporatist scumbags responsible for the deaths their bullshit vaccines caused.

She won't. For whatever decent qualities you might care to attribute to Sackur, she is a rather vain and arrogant creature at times and loath to admit error or having been hoodwinked. Her pride is far too consuming to afford her a fair and balanced approach to many topics - this is one of them.

She desperately wants you to agree that the people who have convinced her to damage herself have everyone's best interests at heart, that they are Mother Theresa types and not George Soros styled vermin. And she is not above grand sweeping airclaims or even outright falsehoods to effect that.

Quote from: Herman on August 30, 2023, 12:55:07 AMThat too. But, they made a lot of money from it. I suppose I should not complaim. The old lady and I saw our pharma stocks soar.

And don't remind me about masking. That along with the denial of lab leaks, the ineffectiveness of the scam vaccines was another lie were told.

Masks were more counterproductive than anything. How many maskurbators do you know that were observing proper mask hygiene... changing them every ten to fifteen minutes so they weren't breathing in all those germs multiplying in the breath-moistened fibres? About zero?

And lest we forget, the whole Gain Of Function - the research into viruses jumping species - was being conducted on American soil until scientific outcry forced O'Bummer to offshore it all to a certain biolab beginning with the letter "W" that he and a few other familiar faces had a financial interest in.

Quote from: caskur on August 30, 2023, 02:20:38 AMI know you think you are trying to humour me but at your age you need to take this seriously...

I also take zinc, vit C and D3 everyday.

The pain at the top of my lungs was the worst pain I ever had.

My variety of covid was Omicron.

Ah, the mildest variant. Pretty sure that's the variety that was doing the rounds when I had my last dalliance with the coronavirus. A little fatigue, a splitting headache for a day and some mild congestion for a couple of days.

The RAT tests I took claimed it was covid. I didn't bother with the PCR test, not after people had used it to determine that covid was alive and well and living in bottles of Coca-Cola.

 I got the J&J shot and didn't have an issue.

 My ex got the Pfizer shot...both rounds...and had weird heart issues for a year afterwards. He would just become tachycardic out of nowhere.

 I won't let my soulmate get it. But I'm pretty extra on keeping germs out of the house because his MS medication lowers his immune system and if he dies ill have to kill myself. We all do our best to guard against any viruses over here.

Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on August 30, 2023, 05:46:16 AMWell you mightn't have been in the habit of paying attention to the media at the time, I was and I distinctively recall it being called a "vaccination" which was "100% safe and effective".

 Not in Australia. Our Health Minister said up to 5 in 1,000,000 would die of adverse reactions from vaccinations and that was a perfectly acceptable risk.

  World-o-meter has the stats...

No place on Earth beats our stats for the least deaths.

We  did the right thing.

Quote from: caskur on August 30, 2023, 09:25:12 AMNot in Australia. Our Health Minister said up to 5 in 1,000,000 would die of adverse reactions from vaccinations and that was a perfectly acceptable risk.

Our Patty Hajdu, our Health Minister made a similar false claim too. Something like 100,000 Canadians suffered adverse affects from being jabbed with totally useless vaccines. It was criminal.

Quote from: caskur on August 30, 2023, 02:28:36 AMit was not being worked on in less than year... I know you are too lazy to read posts .... the vaccine was being worked on for 10 years by Prof. Gilbert.

Just Ggoogle her before you go any further.

How could this Professor be working on vaccine for Covid 19 years before Covid 19 was engineered in a Chinese lab?

Think these things through, Cas.

If you're talking about the development of MRNA biotech, that's Frankenstein shit and I'd never inject a substance into my bloodstream that actually recombines my own RNA.  My RNA is just fine.  My gene line has been evolving it for millions of years and I don't think it's a good idea to have it tweaked by something that comes out of a pharma lab.

Quote from: Reggie Essent on August 30, 2023, 12:15:39 PMHow could this Professor be working on vaccine for Covid 19 years before Covid 19 was engineered in a Chinese lab?

Think these things through, Cas.

Obviously.

Quote from: caskur on August 30, 2023, 09:25:12 AMNot in Australia.

Yes in Australia. New Zealand too. Germany, France, England, Canada, the US... the media of all these countries were all engaging in the same blatant lying, "I saw it with my own two eyes" as the song goes. "100% safe and effective" was a universal lie told in all these jurisdictions and you could barely go five minutes without hearing it. It was a co-ordinated narrative that was getting pumped out, in your case on every news outlet on your "free to air" television stations (ABC, SBS, Seven, Nine and Ten networks), radio stations and largely Murdoch dominated printed media.

Quote from: caskur on August 30, 2023, 09:25:12 AMOur Health Minister said up to 5 in 1,000,000 would die of adverse reactions from vaccinations and that was a perfectly acceptable risk.

Then by definition it isn't "100% safe" now, is it? And for what it's worth, there are worse things than dying suddenly from adverse reactions. When I think of all the pain and suffering these "100% safe and effective" jabs have wrought, I have to ask myself just what effect your leaders were chasing. It certainly wasn't making you healthy, that much is clear.

For part of my childhood I grew up in a place called Frankston, a suburb of Melbourne, a few doors up from Greg Hunt's nephew. The nephew was my brother's age, a nice enough kid, if a little loud due to partial deafness resulting from menengitis as a toddler. By contrast his uncle was a total cunt, a slimy sociopathic slug who saw nothing wrong with any action that advanced his own personal benefit. I'm not surprised he went into politics quite frankly.

I don't know a million people, I certainly don't lay claim to knowing the 25 million Australia boasts. How is it then that of the Australians that I do know, practically every second or third of them has a tale to tell of debilitating injuries, either to themselves or a loved one? And I'm not talking mild headaches or injection owwies here, I'm talking things like nervous system maladies, sudden and virulent onset of cognitive impairment, cardiac infarctions, loss of energy, loss of one or more senses... the list goes on.

Like you, not every one of them is prepared to lay the cause at the feet of the jab. Shane Warne certainly wasn't, he was quite adamant about the efficacy of the jabs and used his pulpit as a famous Australian cricketer to coach others into the jabs and mock, scorn and misrepresent those that exercised their "option" to remain unjabbed. Dead within a week of his booster shot. Cause of death ruled as Atherosclerosis. Weird, he wasn't showing any symptoms of it in the weeks prior and the media was quick to assure everyone the jabs had nothing whatsoever to do with his untimely end. Okay, he was 52. I was 52 at the time, nowhere near as active as him physically and I sure as hell partied a damn sight harder than he in my time, especially in the area of trendy chemical amusement aid. Smoked like a bloody chimney well into my forties until I switched to vaping exclusively, didn't (and still don't) watch my diet. Then again I also don't subject myself to medical experiments. Maybe there's a lesson to be learned by my example. A lesson that pricks like Greg Hunt would prefer that you didn't, not if it affects his pharmaceutical lobby's bottom line.

"Perfectly acceptable risks" aside, Australia's 0.4% mortalitly rate which you cited is a damn sight higher than the 0.03% Covid mortality rate it was enjoying prior to the "vaccine" rollouts. So much for Australia "doing the Right Thing", a "pandemic" that was claiming less lives than your annual road toll, but your government was certainly not going to let that stop them. Now on aggregate your country is weaker and more likely to die from the pinko pox than in previous years, your economy is in tatters and you have a subset of lunatics wandering your streets and malls that think wearing a magic talisman over their moosh is going to save them.

That's not quite the "return to 2019" promise that I was sold with the "two weeks to flatten the curve". Our leaders lied us into this bullshit and you want to cheer them?

Quote from: DKG on August 30, 2023, 03:09:33 PMObviously.

this is from 2019 (pre-covid) discussing how to bypass safety testing for new vaccines....  :crampe:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/WYV5agwFlzYQ/

Quote from: Dove on August 30, 2023, 08:20:34 AMI got the J&J shot and didn't have an issue.

 My ex got the Pfizer shot...both rounds...and had weird heart issues for a year afterwards. He would just become tachycardic out of nowhere.

I wanted to ask you actually, what you think of the practice of mixing viral vector treatments with mRNA ones. It never made a lot of sense to me that would even be a thing - maybe choosing one or the other, but not mixing the two. Please assume for the purposes of your answer that I already have a passing knowledge of the difference between the introduction of deactivated viral material and the introduction of agents that rewrite an organism's cells to mimic the viral material.

I have a relative in Australia who for their two shot regimen had an AZ followed by a Pfizer over the course of a month. No problems were immediately evident, however when the boosters were rolled out six months later they experienced a cognitive decline which within three months reduced their mental faculties to that of a three year old immediately following their first Pfizer booster. I'd never heard of a case of such rapid onset of dementia. This was prior to Pfizer admitting it was one of the possible side effects from their treatment too.

Quote from: DKG on August 30, 2023, 09:40:09 AMOur Patty Hajdu, our Health Minister made a similar false claim too. Something like 100,000 Canadians suffered adverse affects from being jabbed with totally useless vaccines. It was criminal.

What degrees of "adverse" affects? A sore arm doesn't cut it I'm afraid.

no 100,000 Australians suffered "adverse" affects, so I call your claim flat out bullshit.

Quote from: Reggie Essent on August 30, 2023, 12:15:39 PMHow could this Professor be working on vaccine for Covid 19 years before Covid 19 was engineered in a Chinese lab?

go back and read what Prof. said and how she did it.... you know the latest covid is SARS 2 we already had SAR 1 20 YEARS ago. So vaccines were already been worked on.

QuoteThink these things through, Cas.

If you're talking about the development of MRNA biotech, that's Frankenstein shit and I'd never inject a substance into my bloodstream that actually recombines my own RNA.  My RNA is just fine.  My gene line has been evolving it for millions of years and I don't think it's a good idea to have it tweaked by something that comes out of a pharma lab.

before covid vaccines over 5,000,000 humans immune systems failed them... probably more than, 5,000,000. Do you want to rely on your immuune system getting a belt of tetanus (bacterial infection) or Malaia (viral) in your blood?... I am on my smart TV so I can't C&P so you are just going to have to read them.

you need to think it through... I saw the Prof. interviewed and praised for the work she did and the articles I posted on pages here before this one, Prof. Gilbet explains HOW SHE DID IT working on the vaccine for 10 years NOT as you people here think it was done.

I don't want to lose you. The more people in my real life I have seen have no adverse affects from the shots, the more confident and comfortable I am about them stopping you going to hospital and/or dying.


Research the inventer not the detractors.

So getting back to a question I asked, how many people survived (or died even) treating themselves with Ivermectin?


 :crampe:

It is extrenely safe and sold over the counter in much of the world.

Quote from: caskur on August 30, 2023, 05:48:06 PMgo back and read what Prof. said and how she did it.... you know the latest covid is SARS 2 we already had SAR 1 20 YEARS ago. So vaccines were already been worked on.


before covid vaccines over 5,000,000 humans immune systems failed them... probably more than, 5,000,000. Do you want to rely on your immuune system getting a belt of tetanus (bacterial infection) or Malaia (viral) in your blood?... I am on my smart TV so I can't C&P so you are just going to have to read them.

you need to think it through... I saw the Prof. interviewed and praised for the work she did and the articles I posted on pages here before this one, Prof. Gilbet explains HOW SHE DID IT working on the vaccine for 10 years NOT as you people here think it was done.

I don't want to lose you. The more people in my real life I have seen have no adverse affects from the shots, the more confident and comfortable I am about them stopping you going to hospital and/or dying.


Research the inventer not the detractors.

Silly Cas.  We all lose everyone.  It's up to God, not us.  And while I understand trying to do everything one can to stave off loss for ones self and ones loved ones, in the end it ain't up to us.

With this Covid stuff, it was clear early on that the reaction to the outbreak was far more damaging to society than the little bug itself, and the draconian measures slammed down on people by governments around the world, your government in particular, caused far more harm than good.

Also, the numbers you like to cite regarding the low death and disease transmission rates in Australia probably have more to due with Australias geographical isolation than it does with anything your government did.

Just sayin'.

I have .005 gigs left before I get cut off the phone so watch the inventor speak...


https://youtu.be/OVf_d_Inmo8?si=jxAVtUuciqeQOfZK




But please refrain thinking I am not educated on this subject...

TA!!!

I am actually really getting pissed off with far left loons like some of my neighbors and far right ding bats I meet on the net who are told what to think by their political leans.

To me you are all dumber than a box of rocks except Flea and Dovey who actually listen to what is going on in any subject they care to join in on.

Quote from: Reggie Essent on August 30, 2023, 06:14:19 PMSilly Cas.  We all lose everyone.  It's up to God, not us.  And while I understand trying to do everything one can to stave off loss for ones self and ones loved ones, in the end it ain't up to us.

With this Covid stuff, it was clear early on that the reaction to the outbreak was far more damaging to society than the little bug itself, and the draconian measures slammed down on people by governments around the world, your government in particular, caused far more harm than good.

Also, the numbers you like to cite regarding the low death and disease transmission rates in Australia probably have more to due with Australias geographical isolation than it does with anything your government did.

Just sayin'.

Of course. Australians were not allowed to travel abroad. But, when it did hit it was like North America. The only thing that the China style extreme measures Australia adopted did was delay the inevitable.

When it did hit after a while, most new cases were people who had at least two doses. And a lot of the deaths attributed to COVID were people who also had at least two doses. Same as both Canada, the US, Europe, and East Asia.

I don't care if caskur wants to get a COVID jab once a year. If that along with masking provides her with the false sense of security she feels she needs, so be it. Her body, her business.

What scares the hell out of most people is when our elected officials double down on what didn't work and implemnent vax and masking mandates again.

Quote from: caskur on August 30, 2023, 06:21:11 PMI have .005 gigs left before I get cut off the phone so watch the inventor speak...


https://youtu.be/OVf_d_Inmo8?si=jxAVtUuciqeQOfZK

But please refrain thinking I am not educated on this subject...

TA!!!

So?

Quote from: DKG on August 30, 2023, 06:39:24 PMSo?

She said, (and she is a scientist, you aren't) you have more risk of blood clots from getting covid than the shots themselves.... which means you could be harbouring a clot or clots and you wouldn't know it.

What do you mean so? She already had vaccine for a corona virus... years before covid-19 broke out.... put your listening ears on mere male.

Quote from: caskur on August 30, 2023, 06:34:09 PMI am actually really getting pissed off with far left loons like some of my neighbors and far right ding bats I meet on the net who are told what to think by their political leans.

To me you are all dumber than a box of rocks except Flea and Dovey who actually listen to what is going on in any subject they care to join in on.

I am conservative and got three jabs.  I also take Vitamin E daily, try to exercise, and will probably buy some COVID related meds next time I am down in Tijuana.  I will not mask or stay at home like last time.  It was obviously not based upon the actual science and I stead 2as political theater for the 2020 and 2022 elections.  I will continue to wash my hands, not touch my face, and generally observe personal space where ever possible

I find that reasonable and fairly balanced especially since they don't even have an approved VAC for the last supposed strain.

Quote from: Oerdin on August 30, 2023, 07:02:06 PMI am conservative and got three jabs.  I also take Vitamin E daily, try to exercise, and will probably buy some COVID related meds next time I am down in Tijuana.  I will not mask or stay at home like last time.  It was obviously not based upon the actual science and I stead 2as political theater for the 2020 and 2022 elections.  I will continue to wash my hands, not touch my face, and generally observe personal space where ever possible

I find that reasonable and fairly balanced especially since they don't even have an approved VAC for the last supposed strain.

I have ALWAYS found you 100% level headed.

I won't get boosters... I am going to rely on antivirils if I get it again.

good on you..

Quote from: deadskinmask on August 30, 2023, 03:19:15 PMthis is from 2019 (pre-covid) discussing how to bypass safety testing for new vaccines....  :crampe:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/WYV5agwFlzYQ/

casket.... you retarded fuckin whore.... you hit this with a "disagree"??? what is there to "disagree" with, you retarded cunt??? thats EXACTLY what it is.... fuckin mongoloid....  :crampe:

https://www.kumc.edu/about/news/news-archive/jama-ivermectin-study.html

Ivermectin shown ineffective in treating COVID-19, according to multi-site study including KU Medical Center


Results of the study of the antiparasitic medication, once a much-discussed potential treatment for COVID-19, were published in the Journal of the American Medical Association.

December 1, 2022 | Anne Christiansen-Bullers


Researchers at the University of Kansas Medical Center were part of a multi-site collaboration that found that ivermectin has no measurable effect in improving COVID-19 outcomes.

In an article recently published in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), the researchers concluded that taking 400 mcg/kg ivermectin for three days, when compared with a placebo, did not significantly improve the chances for a patient with mild to moderate symptoms of COVID-19 to avoid hospitalization.

The use of ivermectin also showed no measurable decrease in the severity of COVID-19 symptoms or the length of time these patients experienced COVID-19 symptoms.

"The most important takeaway from the study is that ivermectin does not help improve outcomes from COVID-19 infection and thus should not be used as a treatment for COVID-19," said Tiffany Schwasinger-Schmidt, M.D., Ph.D., associate professor of internal medicine at the University of Kansas School of Medicine-Wichita, director of the Center for Clinical Research and site director of the study for the KU Medical Center location in Wichita.

Mario Castro, M.D., MPH, vice chair for clinical and translational research and division director of pulmonary and critical care medicine for KU School of Medicine, provided oversight of the study.

About the study
KU Medical Center was part of a nationwide initiative that allowed research institutions to collaborate on COVID-19 studies in hopes of getting results sooner than any one site could achieve on its own.

This initiative, the Accelerating COVID-19 Therapeutic Interventions and Vaccines Study Group and Investigators, is also known as ACTIV. This study to examine ivermectin, as well as a few other current medications to gauge their effectiveness against COVID-19, goes by the name of ACTIV-6.

The ACTIV-6 study enrolled 1,800 participants. These participants received packages at their residences that contained either a dose of ivermectin or a placebo. Because it was a double-blind study, the participants did not know whether they received ivermectin or not.

Of the initial enrollment, 1,591 participants with confirmed cases of COVID-19 reported receiving their shipment, and follow-up data were collected by 93 separate study sites across the United States.

"This trial was innovative in that it used a remote clinical trial design, allowing people in all areas in the U.S. to enroll in a clinical trial and have the investigational drug shipped directly to their house," explained Schwasinger-Schmidt. "This is different in that most clinical trials require participants to come to a center to receive study medication."

The study results
When the participants' data were analyzed, researchers came up with two results. The first was the median recovery time, or the amount of time it took patients to report having recovered from COVID-19. The second was the number of hospitalizations or deaths within each study group.

Researchers found that the median recovery time for those taking ivermectin was 12 days, and those on the placebo was 13 days. There were 10 hospitalizations or deaths in the ivermectin group and nine in the placebo group. But these differences failed to be statistically significant, leading researchers to their conclusion that "these findings do not support the use of ivermectin in patients with mild to moderate COVID-19."

What is ivermectin?
Ivermectin is an oral medication initially introduced as an animal de-wormer in 1971 and approved for human use in 1986. Its main purpose (to remove parasites from the body of either animals or humans) means it was initially classified as an "anti-parasitic agent," according to Schwasinger-Schmidt.

"It kills parasites that cause river blindness and other illnesses and has been used safely in millions of people," she said.

Ivermectin and COVID-19
Ivermectin entered the American lexicon as a possible treatment for COVID-19 when Pierre Kory, M.D., a pulmonologist and president of Frontline COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC) testified before a U.S. Senate committee hearing in December 2020. Kory called ivermectin a "miracle drug" against COVID-19 and urged the government to issue prescription guidelines for its use in treating the coronavirus.

Prior to Kory's testimony, Australian researchers in the spring of 2020 had observed that ivermectin killed the coronavirus in a laboratory setting. But a story in The Seattle Times pointed out that the amount used in the lab was much higher than the approved use for humans and could be fatal.

Tests continued throughout the world, however, building that hope that Kory shared with the Senate committee. "Ivermectin had been studied in the laboratory prior to implementation in this trial, and it appeared to decrease replication of the COVID-19 virus through decreasing responses in the inflammatory pathway to the virus," Castro said.

Ivermectin became an especially hopeful solution for individuals not convinced in the safety or efficacy of the COVID-19 vaccine. But these worldwide studies — including a clinical trial of ivermectin in Brazil called TOGETHER and now the ACTIV-6 trial in the U.S. — have failed to find ivermectin helpful for COVID-19 treatment.

"In clinical trials, it is equally as important to discover which medications don't work to treat illness as well as medications that do," Schwasinger-Schmidt said. "This study showed what didn't work."

Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on August 30, 2023, 03:09:57 PM"Perfectly acceptable risks" aside, Australia's 0.4% mortalitly rate which you cited is a damn sight higher than the 0.03% Covid mortality rate it was enjoying prior to the "vaccine" rollouts. So much for Australia "doing the Right Thing", a "pandemic" that was claiming less lives than your annual road toll, but your government was certainly not going to let that stop them. Now on aggregate your country is weaker and more likely to die from the pinko pox than in previous years, your economy is in tatters and you have a subset of lunatics wandering your streets and malls that think wearing a magic talisman over their moosh is going to save them.

I followed world-0-meter which started at 14% fatality going off their old SARS 1 then it started dropping considerably to 4 %,... then 2% And it Frood who alerted me it was under 1% so I checked and it at .4%.

My government as you call them, you ridiculous clown, followed the medical advice.

This virus had NOTHING to do with the government... Anyone's government... ffs!~

You think Ivermectin is a cure!!!!  :s_laugh:


You are ridiculous haggerling over .1%...  :crampe:

Ivermectin can work very well if administered early. With the treatments available now, vaccines are no longer necessary. Not to mention the indisputable truth that they have no medicinal or prevention value. They are placebos.

Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on August 30, 2023, 03:48:46 PMI wanted to ask you actually, what you think of the practice of mixing viral vector treatments with mRNA ones. It never made a lot of sense to me that would even be a thing - maybe choosing one or the other, but not mixing the two. Please assume for the purposes of your answer that I already have a passing knowledge of the difference between the introduction of deactivated viral material and the introduction of agents that rewrite an organism's cells to mimic the viral material.

I have a relative in Australia who for their two shot regimen had an AZ followed by a Pfizer over the course of a month. No problems were immediately evident, however when the boosters were rolled out six months later they experienced a cognitive decline which within three months reduced their mental faculties to that of a three year old immediately following their first Pfizer booster. I'd never heard of a case of such rapid onset of dementia. This was prior to Pfizer admitting it was one of the possible side effects from their treatment too.

 I really don't feel comfortable with the MRNA shots at all. So I'm even weird about mixing them.

 I won't get it and I don't want anyone I love getting it ...even mixing it.

Quote from: Thiel on August 30, 2023, 09:40:05 PMIvermectin can work very well if administered early. With the treatments available now, vaccines are no longer necessary. Not to mention the indisputable truth that they have no medicinal or prevention value. They are placebos.

Same with Relenza during the swine flu hoax of 2009ish.... you had to start snorting it the moment you were coming down with the SV or it wasn't as effective.

Don't mind Caskur... she gets her talking points straight from the Australian fuckwits in power via the Australian Broadcasting Corporation...(ABC) or as I like to call it, the Australian Bullshitting Corporation..

Elderly people with mental decline love getting their info from the ABC...  :facepalm:  :crampe:

Quote from: Frood on August 31, 2023, 01:17:02 AMSame with Relenza during the swine flu hoax of 2009ish.... you had to start snorting it the moment you were coming down with the SV or it wasn't as effective.

Don't mind Caskur... she gets her talking points straight from the Australian fuckwits in power via the Australian Broadcasting Corporation...(ABC) or as I like to call it, the Australian Bullshitting Corporation..

Elderly people with mental decline love getting their info from the ABC...  :facepalm:  :crampe:

The ABC, CBC, BBC, the middle b is for bullshit.

They all maligned anyone of us who asked for more information before the experimental jabs, or found some credible sources during the roll-out's....

It's amazing to me still that in some localities, a woman 6-9 months pregnant can get an easy last minute abortion because of "my body, my choice" mantras... but the moment a singular life...an adult person says "no thanks, not for me or my children", the mob goes crazy.

Wow...

3? what? 4 :crazy: in a row,...


 now I know why they want the net censored. It's to control the  :crazy:  to stop spreading BS.


from now on, you're are on your ownz.


don't worry, KU Medical Centre's research isn't true  :Doh2: , Thiel, Herman and Frood have done their own controlled medical studies.... follow them over a cliff with the other Lemmings Dove.

 :deadplace:

Quote from: Frood on August 31, 2023, 02:07:59 AMThey all maligned anyone of us who asked for more information before the experimental jabs, or found some credible sources during the roll-out's....

It's amazing to me still that in some localities, a woman 6-9 months pregnant can get an easy last minute abortion because of "my body, my choice" mantras... but the moment a singular life...an adult person says "no thanks, not for me or my children", the mob goes crazy.

 nothing what you said in this deplorable post has anything to do with the topic of this thread which is about Ivermectin.

Quote from: caskur on August 31, 2023, 02:43:53 AMnothing what you said in this deplorable post has anything to do with the topic of this thread which is about Ivermectin.

You need more ABC infusions... before you teeter into the abyss of rationality..

Quote from: caskur on August 30, 2023, 09:33:46 PMI followed world-0-meter which started at 14% fatality going off their old SARS 1 then it started dropping considerably to 4 %,... then 2% And it Frood who alerted me it was under 1% so I checked and it at .4%.

And I sent it to him when the Covid deaths in Australia were running at 0.03%

Quote from: caskur on August 30, 2023, 09:33:46 PMMy government as you call them, you ridiculous clown, followed the medical advice.

Which, you porridge-brained spastic, was as follows: knuckle down and sell this scaredemic to our liking and we probably won't use our flex to get you kicked out of office in disgrace for the skeletons in your closet.

 

Quote from: caskur on August 30, 2023, 09:33:46 PMThis virus had NOTHING to do with the government... Anyone's government... ffs!~

Gullible lying fuckwit.

Quote from: caskur on August 30, 2023, 09:33:46 PMYou think Ivermectin is a cure!!!!  :s_laugh:

You have no idea what I think, any time I tell you it goes in one ear and out the other with you.

FWIW, I'm not the only one who's noticed.

Quote from: caskur on August 30, 2023, 09:33:46 PMYou are ridiculous haggerling over .1%...  :crampe:

You are too retarded to notice you missed a decimal place. 0.03% versus your 0.4%.

Tell me, was it worth the price hikes, product shortages and the devaluation of your savings to drive the death totals up thirteen-fold*? I sure hope so.


* - not counting all the people who died from other causes as a result of not being able to get to hospital bescause Spooky-Wu-Flu

Quote from: Dove on August 31, 2023, 12:13:58 AMI really don't feel comfortable with the MRNA shots at all. So I'm even weird about mixing them.

 I won't get it and I don't want anyone I love getting it ...even mixing it.

Yeah well... I wondered, thanks for being candid. There have been multipronged treatments for various other diseases of course, though they are usually to be found when treating a disease, not preventing it. At least AFAIK. I strongly suspected shenanigans were afoot when government agencies started pushing multiple untested products. Then there were all those leaks from places like J&J and Pfizer... top scientists admitting it was for fiscal reasons and not public health. I can honestly say I was not surprised in the slightest.

You would think such admissions would be headline news, but I can almost guarantee you that people like Caskur have never seen them even mentioned in passing on their cherished "news" outlets.

I like Caskur as a person, but I would never accept ANY advice on ANYTHING that she's offering just like I don't listen to toddlers on what they want to eat or where they'd like to dine out.

 :pardon:

shes a fuckin idiot.... just like seamonkey.... she thinks shes "cornered the market" on truth and theres nothing you can say that will change her mind.... theres no point trying to discuss anything with her.... shes locked in.... even when she knows shes not right, she'll cling to her position.... because as long as she can maintain the illusion for herself, she doesn't have to admit shes fuckin wrong.... and THATS whats really important to her....

Meh... that's the elderly in general.

Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on August 31, 2023, 06:13:54 AMYeah well... I wondered, thanks for being candid. There have been multipronged treatments for various other diseases of course, though they are usually to be found when treating a disease, not preventing it. At least AFAIK. I strongly suspected shenanigans were afoot when government agencies started pushing multiple untested products. Then there were all those leaks from places like J&J and Pfizer... top scientists admitting it was for fiscal reasons and not public health. I can honestly say I was not surprised in the slightest.

You would think such admissions would be headline news, but I can almost guarantee you that people like Caskur have never seen them even mentioned in passing on their cherished "news" outlets.

 I'm definitely far from being any sort of expert but anything the government and media push that hard should be met with the toughest scrutiny because they are never that concerned with OUR benefit and well being.

 It was always about control and money.  I dont think they intentionally want to kill us...they just don't care if they do.

Quote from: Frood on August 31, 2023, 04:28:53 AMYou need more ABC infusions... before you teeter into the abyss of rationality..

You need to read the updates about the ineffectual horse worming drug Ivermection and how absolutely useless it is fighting covid infection.


 

Quote from: Frood on August 31, 2023, 07:48:13 AMMeh... that's the elderly in general.

You are classed as elderly short stuff...

Nobody should listen to your paranoia either.

Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on August 31, 2023, 05:06:22 AMAnd I sent it to him when the Covid deaths in Australia were running at 0.03%

 Because clown the nation is fully vaccinated AND ANTIVIRILS ARE BEING GIVEN TO THE MOST VULNERABLE...

So of course people are dying at a very low percentage... the vaccine and antivirals are working.


 :facepalm:

Quote from: deadskinmask on August 31, 2023, 07:22:10 AMshes a fuckin idiot.... just like seamonkey.... she thinks shes "cornered the market" on truth and theres nothing you can say that will change her mind.... theres no point trying to discuss anything with her.... shes locked in.... even when she knows shes not right, she'll cling to her position.... because as long as she can maintain the illusion for herself, she doesn't have to admit shes fuckin wrong.... and THATS whats really important to her....

I definitely think you are one person who should be a test monkey for Ivermectin.

A flat earther like you is the perfect candidate for a Ivermectin trial.

Ps, I am never fucking wrong!!!

Quote from: caskur on August 31, 2023, 05:27:40 PMI definitely think you are one person who should be a test monkey for Ivermectin.

A flat earther like you is the perfect candidate for a Ivermectin trial.

Ps, I am never fucking wrong!!!

i've never had covid.... i was treating ppl at my house for two years and even TRIED to catch it at one point.... no dice.... guess i'm just unlucky like that....

Quote from: Dove on August 31, 2023, 03:14:52 PMI'm definitely far from being any sort of expert but anything the government and media push that hard should be met with the toughest scrutiny because they are never that concerned with OUR benefit and well being.

 It was always about control and money.  I dont think they intentionally want to kill us...they just don't care if they do.

Politicians do care about their own families though and to that end they would care if their relatives caught covid an died... it is true most likely they don't care about the voters but as I have just said, bugs don't discriminate.

My states leader had to keep the mines going because they are Australia's engine... they bring the money in... the mines stopped in Africa and Brazil due to covid. THIS was all BEFORE VACCINES came on the scene.

Quote from: deadskinmask on August 31, 2023, 05:32:44 PMi've never had covid.... i was treating ppl at my house for two years and even TRIED to catch it at one point.... no dice.... guess i'm just unlucky like that....

Then you should keep your big fat mouthy gob shut about what I am saying to yourself.

Read the actual heading of the thread and properly debate it before you listen to Frood or Adolf. They don't reason.

Oh wait!!!!

Look who I'm talking to about reason... :crampe:

Quote from: caskur on August 31, 2023, 05:40:16 PMThen you should keep your big fat mouthy gob shut about what I am saying to yourself.

Read the actual heading of the thread and properly debate it before you listen to Frood or Adolf. They don't reason.

Oh wait!!!!

Look who I'm talking to about reason... :crampe:

so ppl can't have opinions? or do they have to reflect yours? i find that fascinating that you're so insecure about the nonsense you spout.... you seem to be the most "liberal" allegedly "not-liberal" i've ever seen....  :crampe:

Quote from: deadskinmask on August 31, 2023, 05:45:52 PMso ppl can't have opinions? or do they have to reflect yours? i find that fascinating that you're so insecure about the nonsense you spout.... you seem to be the most "liberal" allegedly "not-liberal" i've ever seen....  :crampe:

Nothing is worse than an ill informed opinion potato head...

Thankfully I am neither left or right..

Quote from: caskur on August 31, 2023, 06:10:29 PMNothing is worse than an ill informed opinion potato head...

modern medicine is not trying to cure you.... theres no profit in that.... they're selling you side effects that will require additional medications.... believe me....and  if masks did anything helpful, they'd get the same bad press as ivermectin.... you're being lied to and you're being harvested....

Masks are inadequate however they stop your diseased spittle landing on peoples wounds.

You people were running around telling others to use Ivermectin and you right wing nutters were, WRONG. You were WRONG promoting an ineffective medicine.

YOU need own up when you are wrong. You want lefties to own up to being wrong and rightfully so but you under-educated right whingers need to do the same.

Quote from: deadskinmask on August 31, 2023, 06:22:03 PMmodern medicine is not trying to cure you.... theres no profit in that.... they're selling you side effects that will require additional medications.... believe me....and  if masks did anything helpful, they'd get the same bad press as ivermectin.... you're being lied to and you're being harvested....

The mask protection thing has been proven false. Next.

Quote from: caskur on August 31, 2023, 06:33:38 PMYou people were running around telling others to use Ivermectin and you right wing nutters were, WRONG. You were WRONG promoting an ineffective medicine.

i have NEVER told anybody to do anything.... the closest i've came to offering medical advice is asking ppl to request to see the paperwork before they submitted to a vaccine.... i don't care what anybody does.... wear a mask. take the vaccine. stand on your head with a banana in your ear.... i don't care.... where i draw the line is when ppl start telling ME what i should do....

Quote from: deadskinmask on August 31, 2023, 06:54:10 PMi have NEVER told anybody to do anything.... the closest i've came to offering medical advice is asking ppl to request to see the paperwork before they submitted to a vaccine.... i don't care what anybody does.... wear a mask. take the vaccine. stand on your head with a banana in your ear.... i don't care.... where i draw the line is when ppl start telling ME what i should do....

I went along with the masking and vaxxing the first time. It aint happening again. Fuck that.

Quote from: Herman on August 31, 2023, 07:08:53 PMI went along with the masking and vaxxing the first time. It aint happening again. Fuck that.

the whole damn forum did.... lmmfao.... it was like the twilight zone up in this bitch.... crazy times, man....  :crampe:

Quote from: deadskinmask on August 31, 2023, 07:11:41 PMthe whole damn forum did.... lmmfao.... it was like the twilight zone up in this bitch.... crazy times, man....  :crampe:

Ya, I fucked up.

Quote from: Herman on August 31, 2023, 07:26:33 PMYa, I fucked up.

lol.... its okay, brother.... it happens.... i'm just glad yall survived.... i'm pretty sure cc has suffered a climate change or a "suddenly"....

Quote from: deadskinmask on August 31, 2023, 07:30:04 PMlol.... its okay, brother.... it happens.... i'm just glad yall survived.... i'm pretty sure cc has suffered a climate change or a "suddenly"....

That is what I am hearing about Ceec.

They are starting to creep mask mandates back in across parts of this country. Justine likes it. I do not and I aint playing along this time.

Quote from: Herman on August 31, 2023, 06:45:57 PMThe mask protection thing has been proven false. Next.

The masks do not stop transmissions of virus but the stop bacteria being transmitted.

The masks are a pollution problem like plastic bottles.

This thread is about Ivermectin which gets promoted by the rubbish sites Adolf listens to....and perpetuates the use of.

And it doesn't work and is not very safe but it still used for other conditions under Doctor care.

When it comes to covid and the state of the planet, the authorities got it mostly right.

Next time round though it'll be a different story.

Quote from: Herman on August 31, 2023, 07:40:14 PMThat is what I am hearing about Ceec.

They are starting to creep mask mandates back in across parts of this country. Justine likes it. I do not and I aint playing along this time.

its close to election season here.... if trump doesn't go to jail then they'll have to stack the ballot box again....  :crampe:

Quote from: deadskinmask on August 31, 2023, 07:44:38 PMits close to election season here.... if trump doesn't go to jail then they'll have to stack the ballot box again....  :crampe:

Guess what bother. Old Justine has to call an election within two years at the latest. He is languishing in the polls. Most Canadians want him to resign. He wants mask mandates, social distancing and of course mail in ballots. It is his only hope of keeping his job. Just like Jim Crow Joe. Well no, Jim Crow Joe will use the DOJ to stop his opponent from winning.

Quote from: Herman on August 31, 2023, 07:56:02 PMGuess what bother. Old Justine has to call an election within two years at the latest. He is languishing in the polls. Most Canadians want him to resign. He wants mask mandates, social distancing and of course mail in ballots. It is his only hope of keeping his job. Just like Jim Crow Joe. Well no, Jim Crow Joe will use the DOJ to stop his opponent from winning.

So what? Are your unvaccinated citizens clogging up the emergency departments in your hospitals again?

Go and hand out Ivermectin  to them and tell them covid is a big pharma and government conspiracy and they aren't really feeling excruciating agony.... it all a figment of their imaginations ....

Quote from: deadskinmask on August 31, 2023, 07:44:38 PMits close to election season here.... if trump doesn't go to jail then they'll have to stack the ballot box again....  :crampe:

Nobody cares.

Ahh, be nice Caskur.

Quote from: caskur on August 31, 2023, 09:12:37 PMSo what? Are your unvaccinated citizens clogging up the emergency departments in your hospitals again?

Go and hand out Ivermectin  to them and tell them covid is a big pharma and government conspiracy and they aren't really feeling excruciating agony.... it all a figment of their imaginations ....

Except that never really happened.  The average age of someone who died of COVID was 79 and already had multiple serious medical conditions already.  Shit, I lost track of all the left wing lies they told like claiming people were denying from Ivermectin in droves except it never happened.  Not a single case.  Oh, and later studies showed Ivermectin was both safe and effective.

RFK Jr was correct, big pharma really did want to block ivermectin and other cheap cures both for money and because their vaxes legally couldn't have gotten emergency approval if existing treatments were officially recognized. 

Quote from: Herman on August 31, 2023, 07:56:02 PMGuess what bother. Old Justine has to call an election within two years at the latest. He is languishing in the polls. Most Canadians want him to resign. He wants mask mandates, social distancing and of course mail in ballots. It is his only hope of keeping his job. Just like Jim Crow Joe. Well no, Jim Crow Joe will use the DOJ to stop his opponent from winning.

I don't care what either of them say we must must do, I will not comply. I did exactly as I was told the first time around. I got three jabs, I wore a mask whenever I left the house, I didn't travel. But, guess what, I still got Covid.

My wife is a nurse and she got Covid too despite having three jabs, masking religiously and going through a bottle of hand sanitizer everyday.

At the hospital she works at she saw more people in ICU with three shots than unvaccinated. They had a lot of adverse reactions too. The current vaccines not only completely useless, they were dangerously prescribed.

We have both decided to stand our ground the next time. We will not let anyone force us to mess with our immunity with these fake vaccines. We will not let anyone force us to wear a piece of cotton on our faces. And forget about social distancing if you see us around town.

Quote from: Brent on August 31, 2023, 09:44:19 PMI don't care what either of them say we must must do, I will not comply. I did exactly as I was told the first time around. I got three jabs, I wore a mask whenever I left the house, I didn't travel. But, guess what, I still got Covid.

My wife is a nurse and she got Covid too despite having three jabs, masking religiously and going through a bottle of hand sanitizer everyday.

At the hospital she works at she saw more people in ICU with three shots than unvaccinated. They had a lot of adverse reactions too. The current vaccines not only completely useless, they were dangerously prescribed.

We have both decided to stand our ground the next time. We will not let anyone force us to mess with our immunity with these fake vaccines. We will not let anyone force us to wear a piece of cotton on our faces. And forget about social distancing if you see us around town.

Wait a sec. Are you Iron Horse Jockey?

I was just wondering the other day what happened to you lol

anyway, yeah man, don't comply with shit unless they can justify what they're telling you to do with rational and logical information which is proven.

And I'm sorry but telling people they can still catch COVID and spread it to others because it only reduces their own chances of mortality but is still a public disservice when you refuse to get it doesn't sound at all rational or logical to me. I've asked liberals "how exactly am I harming you if I put myself at greater risk again" ? and I always get that deer in the headlights look before they tell me they will not waste their time on me anymore.

so there must be something else up with that shit.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on August 31, 2023, 09:51:31 PMWait a sec. Are you Iron Horse Jockey?

I was just wondering the other day what happened to you lol

anyway, yeah man, don't comply with shit unless they can justify what they're telling you to do with rational and logical information which is proven.

And I'm sorry but telling people they can still catch COVID and spread it to others because it only reduces their own chances of mortality but is still a public disservice when you refuse to get it doesn't sound at all rational or logical to me. I've asked liberals "how exactly am I harming you if I put myself at greater risk again" ? and I always get that deer in the headlights look before they tell me they will not waste their time on me anymore.

so there must be something else up with that shit.

Yes, I am.

I have done an about face on Covid measures. I am done with all of it if they try and force it on us again. And it looks like they will.

Quote from: Brent on August 31, 2023, 09:56:32 PMYes, I am.

I have done an about face on Covid measures. I am done with all of it if they try and force it on us again. And it looks like they will.

I hear yo bro

what happened to your Iron Horse Jockey account?

you couldn't get back into it?

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on August 31, 2023, 09:57:26 PMI hear yo bro

what happened to your Iron Horse Jockey account?

you couldn't get back into it?

I felt like taking a break. Now I feel like posting again. 
 
Good job with the forum. The update has made it more fun to post. I like the emojis and the like option in particular.

Quote from: Brent on August 31, 2023, 10:02:44 PMI felt like taking a break. Now I feel like posting again. 
 
Good job with the forum. The update has made it more fun to post. I like the emojis and the like option in particular.

cool thx

have you tried the shoutbox?

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on August 31, 2023, 10:12:04 PMcool thx

have you tried the shoutbox?

Just did.

Quote from: Oerdin on August 31, 2023, 09:32:22 PMExcept that never really happened.  The average age of someone who died of COVID was 79 and already had multiple serious medical conditions already.  Shit, I lost track of all the left wing lies they told like claiming people were denying from Ivermectin in droves except it never happened.  Not a single case.  Oh, and later studies showed Ivermectin was both safe and effective.

RFK Jr was correct, big pharma really did want to block ivermectin and other cheap cures both for money and because their vaxes legally couldn't have gotten emergency approval if existing treatments were officially recognized. 

Ivermectin isn't safe and isn't effective according to KU Medical Centre studies. All our countries, USA Australia and the UK were under right wing governments at the time of lockdown so I am quite confused about your left wing reference on this. The only people I see turning this medical emergency is the right whingers on the boards who believe they know better than scientists which I find amazing.

Quote from: Brent on August 31, 2023, 10:18:41 PMJust did.

Cool

It was like one of the drivers for the switch over

DKG really wanted a shoutbox so I hooked a brother up.

it's been a bit of a painful process as our friend Garraty_47 can attest but I think the richness in features was worth it.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on August 31, 2023, 10:59:07 PMCool

It was like one of the drivers for the switch over

DKG really wanted a shoutbox so I hooked a brother up.

it's been a bit of a painful process as our friend Garraty_47 can attest but I think the richness in features was worth it.

Now that I am using Shoutbox, it's like why did we not have one before.

Quote from: Brent on August 31, 2023, 11:13:55 PMNow that I am using Shoutbox, it's like why did we not have one before.

PHPBB didn't have one available as a plugin to their software.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on August 31, 2023, 11:14:34 PMPHPBB didn't have one available as a plugin to their software.

No php has a shoutbox?

Quote from: Brent on August 31, 2023, 11:20:08 PMNo php has a shoutbox?

they're all written in PHP but it appears PHPBB is the only one that doesn't have a plugin for shoutboxes

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on August 31, 2023, 11:21:45 PMthey're all written in PHP but it appears PHPBB is the only one that doesn't have a plugin for shoutboxes

That explains why it is SMF now.

Quote from: Oerdin on August 31, 2023, 09:32:22 PMExcept that never really happened.  The average age of someone who died of COVID was 79 and already had multiple serious medical conditions already.  Shit, I lost track of all the left wing lies they told like claiming people were denying from Ivermectin in droves except it never happened.  Not a single case.  Oh, and later studies showed Ivermectin was both safe and effective.

RFK Jr was correct, big pharma really did want to block ivermectin and other cheap cures both for money and because their vaxes legally couldn't have gotten emergency approval if existing treatments were officially recognized. 

Did you watch this in its entirety?


Or did you stick your head in the sand like Frood and Adolf?

You haven't paid attention because multiple studies in several countries all showed ivermectin was both safe and effective especially when teamed up with other treatments and supplements.  It is part of standard treatment in many countries.

Quote from: Oerdin on September 01, 2023, 12:12:03 AMYou haven't paid attention because multiple studies in several countries all showed ivermectin was both safe and effective especially when teamed up with other treatments and supplements.  It is part of standard treatment in many countries.

The CDC in the States played games with Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine which are both widely used around the world to treat Covid.

Quote from: Oerdin on September 01, 2023, 12:12:03 AMYou haven't paid attention because multiple studies in several countries all showed ivermectin was both safe and effective especially when teamed up with other treatments and supplements.  It is part of standard treatment in many countries.

Then why do other studies say it doesn't like the KU Medical Centre said?

Then why do other studies say it doesn't like the KU Medical Centre said?





https://www.tga.gov.au/news/media-releases/removal-prescribing-restrictions-ivermectin

Removal of prescribing restrictions on ivermectin


From 1 June 2023, prescribing of oral ivermectin for 'off-label' uses will no longer be limited to specialists such as dermatologists, gastroenterologists and infectious diseases specialists.

In its final decision published today, the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) has removed the restriction through its scheduling in the Poisons Standard because there is sufficient evidence that the safety risks to individuals and public health is low when prescribed by a general practitioner in the current health climate.

This considers the evidence and awareness of medical practitioners about the risks and benefits of ivermectin, and the low potential for any shortages of ivermectin for its approved uses. Also, given the high rates of vaccination and hybrid immunity against COVID-19 in Australia, use of ivermectin by some individuals is unlikely to now compromise public health.

However, the TGA does not endorse off-label prescribing of ivermectin for the treatment or prevention of COVID-19.

A large number of clinical studies have demonstrated ivermectin does not improve outcomes in patients with COVID-19. The National Clinical Evidence Taskforce (NCET) and many similar bodies around the world, including the World Health Organization, strongly advises against the use of ivermectin for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19.

Ivermectin for oral use is a Prescription Only (Schedule 4) medicine in the Poisons Standard. It is only approved by the TGA for the treatment of river blindness (onchocerciasis), threadworm of the intestines (intestinal strongyloidiasis), and scabies.

The restriction on ivermectin was introduced in September 2021 because of concerns about the safety of consumers using ivermectin without health advice to treat COVID-19, widespread use of ivermectin instead of approved vaccines and treatments for COVID-19, and potential shortages of the medicine for approved uses.

The final decision follows an application to remove the restrictions and has been made according to the process required under the Therapeutic Goods Act 1989. It takes into account advice from the independent Advisory Committee on Medicines Scheduling (ACMS) and two rounds of public consultation.

Contact for members of the media:
Email: news@health.gov.au
Phone: 02 6289 7400

So, they were concerned about shortages of Ivermectin for other purposes. That makes sense because it works well for treating Covid if administered early.

Ignore the latest on Ivermectin at your own peril.

I have shown this group that the developer of the Covid Vaccine has been working on it for over a decade and your right wing loony sites think it is NEW... :crampe:

And Ivermectin has no value when it comes to treating covid.

You can be duped all you like and tell me the world is flat like Grandpa DSM says so but it just shows me what major tards you all are.

FFS buy a clue!~

Quote from: caskur on August 31, 2023, 05:16:34 PMYou are classed as elderly short stuff...

Nobody should listen to your paranoia either.

No, yuo....Hyacinth Bucket...

Quote from: caskur on September 01, 2023, 12:47:40 AMIgnore the latest on Ivermectin at your own peril.

I have shown this group that the developer of the Covid Vaccine has been working on it for over a decade and your right wing loony sites think it is NEW... :crampe:

And Ivermectin has no value when it comes to treating covid.

You can be duped all you like and tell me the world is flat like Grandpa DSM says so but it just shows me what major tards you all are.

FFS buy a clue!~

No, yuo

Quote from: Brent on September 01, 2023, 12:28:19 AMSo, they were concerned about shortages of Ivermectin for other purposes. That makes sense because it works well for treating Covid if administered early.

Kind of like how health authorities like Antinydick Fauci said early on that masks were unnecessary and in fact ineffective...

Perhaps the only time he ever told the truth, but it because there was a run on P2/N95 as well as surgical masks by the general public and the health system wanted to hoard them for themselves.

Then he flip flopped when supply could be guaranteed, despite them being as he previously described...worthless against coronaviruses.

 :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:

He then started pushing the most ridiculous and unscientific theories including multiple masks.

 :s_laugh:

Quote from: Frood on September 01, 2023, 03:33:31 AMNo, yuo....Hyacinth Bucket...

However, the TGA does not endorse off-label prescribing of ivermectin for the treatment or prevention of COVID-19.

A large number of clinical studies have demonstrated ivermectin does not improve outcomes in patients with COVID-19. The National Clinical Evidence Taskforce (NCET) and many similar bodies around the world, including the World Health Organization, strongly advises against the use of ivermectin for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19.

Quote from: Frood on September 01, 2023, 03:42:47 AMKind of like how health authorities like Antinydick Fauci said early on that masks were unnecessary and in fact ineffective...

Perhaps the only time he ever told the truth, but it because there was a run on P2/N95 as well as surgical masks by the general public and the health system wanted to hoard them for themselves.

Then he flip flopped when supply could be guaranteed, despite them being as he previously described...worthless against coronaviruses.

 :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:

He then started pushing the most ridiculous and unscientific theories including multiple masks.

 :s_laugh:

I don't listen to Americans period!~

They have hay seeds for brains!~

Quote from: caskur on September 01, 2023, 03:51:56 AMI don't listen to Americans period!~

They have hay seeds for brains!~

I don't listen to absolutely fucking anything the TGA or American so called medical authorities say. The Americans are just evil. The TGA are just farm league and stupid... like the Australian Broadcast Corporation and anybody who ingests that unadulterated bullshit.

Sorry about your penis...  :dontknow:

Quote from: Frood on September 01, 2023, 04:07:16 AMI don't listen to absolutely fucking anything the TGA or American so called medical authorities say. The Americans are just evil. The TGA are just farm league and stupid... like the Australian Broadcast Corporation and anybody who ingests that unadulterated bullshit.

Sorry about your penis...  :dontknow:

 :musicboohoo:

No... but really sorry about your donger and headspace... :popcorn:

Quote from: caskur on August 31, 2023, 05:23:56 PMBecause clown the nation is fully vaccinated AND ANTIVIRILS ARE BEING GIVEN TO THE MOST VULNERABLE...

So of course people are dying at a very low percentage... the vaccine and antivirals are working.


 :facepalm:

They were dying at even lower rates during 2020, dumbass. That's the whole point. The vaccines were given emergency use authorization, suddenly people are dying in greater numbers than ever.

You know who's not dying? People Like Frood, who is not on any antivirals, didn't get the clot shot and somehow manages to stay fit and healthy while various of his associates who were jabbed keep coming down with the Koof.

I wonder what your definition of "fully" is. Clearly you are working from a different dictionary than the rest of us, if indeed you even know what a dictionary is.

Quote from: caskur on August 31, 2023, 06:10:29 PMNothing is worse than an ill informed opinion...

...she said, as she debated using her Murdoch owned tabloid as shit tickets replacement when the stores ran out...

Quote from: caskur on August 31, 2023, 06:33:38 PMYou people were running around telling others to use Ivermectin and you right wing nutters were, WRONG. You were WRONG promoting an ineffective medicine.

Tell that to Tim Pool and Joe Rogan. They and their audiences will laugh at you... justifiably, given the success they had using Ivermectin.

What was that about ill-informed opinions again Sackur?

Quote from: deadskinmask on August 31, 2023, 06:54:10 PMi have NEVER told anybody to do anything.... the closest i've came to offering medical advice is asking ppl to request to see the paperwork before they submitted to a vaccine.... i don't care what anybody does.... wear a mask. take the vaccine. stand on your head with a banana in your ear.... i don't care.... where i draw the line is when ppl start telling ME what i should do....

Ditto and well said. That relative of mine that I mentioned earlier, I gave them a few resources I had been following, discussed it with them, told them why I wasn't about to submit to what I regarded as a medical experiment on a mass scale.

I most certainly did not tell them to take Ivermectin, there wouldn't have been a lot of point, since it is supposed to be administered once there is a pathogen for it to fight. I likewise did not tell them not to take the Fauci Sauce.

The only thing I did instruct them, was to make their own choice and do what they thought was right.

So much for Sackur's claims to the contrary; it's not as though it's the first time she's been caught lying her arse off.

Quote from: Herman on August 31, 2023, 06:45:57 PMThe mask protection thing has been proven false. Next.

I vape as you may know. Early on in the mask mandate debacle, it was a favourite pastime of mine to wander past groups of maskurbators, vaping through my mask and exhaling the spent vapour through it.

Any one of those vapour particles could have viral particles hitching a ride on it. And given most people weren't in the habit of swapping their used masks for fresh ones every quarter of an hour, those masks were in all probability breeding grounds for all manner of germs.

Of course the ill-informed opinion they might have been dangerous was never given serious countenance by the bootlickers... Sackur springs to mind here.

Quote from: caskur on August 31, 2023, 07:42:17 PMThis thread is about Ivermectin which gets promoted by the rubbish sites Adolf listens to....and perpetuates the use of.

Then why did you give it a title asking how safe it was? Seems to me even you are off topic here, quit your hectoring and see how much further off topic your can hijack  it, numbnuts.

Quote from: caskur on August 31, 2023, 09:12:37 PMSo what? Are your unvaccinated citizens clogging up the emergency departments in your hospitals again?

Go and hand out Ivermectin  to them and tell them covid is a big pharma and government conspiracy and they aren't really feeling excruciating agony.... it all a figment of their imaginations ....

Your government would rather pump them full of Remdezivir and blow out their lungs on a ventilator, if they even let them into the hospitals to begin with.

I've a better solution. Since your government and mine seem okay with denying us healthcare as per the hippocratic oath and since most of us purebloods wouldn't trust the average clinic as far as we could throw it, perhaps it stands to reason Purebloods should no longer have to PAY for the healthcare of bootlickers like you either. I mean if we aren't getting a service for our money, you shouldn't expect the right to mooch off our tax dollars, you moocher.

Go on, run that idea up the flagpole and salute it. I bet you don't, being a simp for your labour state premier and all.

Quote from: Oerdin on August 31, 2023, 09:28:06 PMAhh, be nice Caskur.

Nah, let her be a bitch about it. She started this thread in the flame section for a reason, which had nothing to do with having an honest and open debate.

I don't mind, she's always had her moments of behaving like a total pig, especially when I'm around. 

Quote from: caskur on August 31, 2023, 10:34:46 PMIvermectin isn't safe and isn't effective according to KU Medical Centre studies. All our countries, USA Australia and the UK were under right wing governments at the time of lockdown so I am quite confused about your left wing reference on this. The only people I see turning this medical emergency is the right whingers on the boards who believe they know better than scientists which I find amazing.

The left wing epithet is pertinent; the whole schemozzle was orchestrated globally by globalists, partnered with big business (in this case the pharmaceutical companies). You did not pay directly for your shots, they were paid for out of the taxes levied by the government and with only the barest lip-service offered to the whole personal choice angle.

So authoritarian socialism, if not outright fascism. Left wing idiocracy at its most blatant. One time socialist turned fascist Benito Mussolini would have been proud.

Your country is as socialist as they come. So is Canada. Bunch of left wing simps who call their conservatives "right wing" when in actual fact they are even more progtarded than the classic liberals of old.

Quote from: Frood on September 01, 2023, 03:42:47 AMKind of like how health authorities like Antinydick Fauci said early on that masks were unnecessary and in fact ineffective...

Perhaps the only time he ever told the truth, but it because there was a run on P2/N95 as well as surgical masks by the general public and the health system wanted to hoard them for themselves.

Then he flip flopped when supply could be guaranteed, despite them being as he previously described...worthless against coronaviruses.

 :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:

He then started pushing the most ridiculous and unscientific theories including multiple masks.

 :s_laugh:

The same wanker who once declared you could catch AIDS from cereal boxes. Trump should have fired his ass on day one of his presidency.

I am going to laugh my arse off when your right whingers marches young healthy men off to war under conscription...young healthy men to turn into minced meat or canon fodder... let's see what your face when you discover your right whingers are no different to the lefturds.

You really are a simpleton and all that dope you smoked fucked your mental midget brain.

The paranoia around here makes me gag. I hate cowards.

A vaccinated 101 year old at my sisters work survived not only the covid vaccinations but covid as well so her situation completely negates any of your bullshit stories.

It was not an experimental vaccine if you grew a pair of knackers, girlie man, and actually watched Leigh Sales interviewing the actual developer of the covid vaccine Prof. Sarah Gilbert then you would cease your ignorant rhetoric. She already had a vaccine approve for a virus that was a covid virus which contained already safe tested ingredients YEARS earlier.

It has been publicly advertized through health authoraties that Ivermectim is not a treatment for covid-19 or any of its variants... so stick that in your vap pipe and smoke it.

 :punk:


no one is dying quicker my olders are still kicking .... expect ones just before lockdown and recently my 91.2 YR OLD MIL.

From Wiki


"Dame Sarah Catherine Gilbert DBE FRS (born April 1962) is an English vaccinologist who is a Professor of Vaccinology at the University of Oxford and co-founder of Vaccitech.[2][3][4][5][6] She specialises in the development of vaccines against influenza and emerging viral pathogens.[7] She led the development and testing of the universal flu vaccine, which underwent clinical trials in 2011.


In January 2020, she read a report on ProMED-mail about four people in China suffering from a strange kind of pneumonia of unknown origin in Wuhan.[8] Within two weeks, a vaccine had been designed at Oxford against the new pathogen, which later became known as COVID-19.[9] On 30 December 2020, the Oxford–AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine she co-developed with the Oxford Vaccine Group was approved for use in the UK.[10] As of January 2022, more than 2.5 billion doses of the vaccine have been released to more than 170 countries worldwide."

The alarm around the treatment for this virus was over the top.

i'd be interested to know how many cases of mask-induced bacterial pneumonia were treated as "covid"....

Quote from: caskur on September 01, 2023, 12:47:40 AMYou can be duped all you like and tell me the world is flat like Grandpa DSM says so but it just shows me what major tards you all are.

i have a thred.... its an open invitation for ANYONE that wants to come "school" me on cosmology or topography.... unfortunately you need to bring a little more than "i was taught in class"....

https://thebluecashew.net/index.php/topic,15153.585.html

Dum Sum knows full well the coronavirus aka SARS 2 has got zilch to do with politics but still tries to weave it into this topic in his posts. The right whingers were WRONG. The vaccines worked... WA convid plan was the best on Earth and largely at the end 95% got vaccinated.

During the lockdown WA people had no unemployment, wore no masks and kids only lost 1 week of school. During the border lockdown we had no deaths.

Our state made 190 billion or near every year of lockdown and we spent 6 billion in our own state on tourism instead of going overseas spending it in Bali.

Quote from: deadskinmask on September 01, 2023, 07:36:31 AMi'd be interested to know how many cases of mask-induced bacterial pneumonia were treated as "covid"....

Cases of pneumonia in WA during lock borders was ZERO,.... same with all the other states but you would have to double check that.

Quote from: caskur on September 01, 2023, 08:08:43 AMCases of pneumonia in WA during lock borders was ZERO,.... same with all the other states but you would have to double check that.

fascinating.... cases of the flu were at almost zero as well.... that only makes me MORE suspicious.... not less....  :crampe:

Quote from: RAVEN on September 01, 2023, 07:57:47 AMI wore a mask through the COVID fiasco.. even at work.  Went to the dentist to get a cleaning and got 2 cavities during that time..  My Dentist told me that I was lucky because she had patients who never had cavities with their teeth rotting out due to wearing a mask :( She labeled it "mask mouth"

read here  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9638642/

I will NEVER wear another mask.. They can kiss my ass lol

I have a sizeable cavity on my right sided back molar which I've just discovered in the last week.

It's a first. At least on my adult teeth... the last cavity I had was on a baby tooth and then it fell out, to be replaced. That was approximately around 40 years ago.

A virtual lifetime of no cavities and after missing a few teeth cleanings and check-ups, I can fit the tip of my tongue into a huge fucking hole.

This is what lockdowns and jab/mask mandates cause... un-health....

I'm getting the fucker pulled. Boss had the same thing recently and they wanted to charge him 5k Australian to "save" it... while offering a disclaimer which said if they didn't save it, they would have to charge 3.5k further to correct it... but with no guaranteed result either or...

It's a fucking back molar... it may even be the last of my wisdom teeth (got three removed early on in my life)...

Doesn't matter.

Fuck Australian dentists. If I need major work, I'll go to Thailand and get complete crowns while partying.

The CDC let it slip that the vaccinated are more at risk of catching COVID than the unvaccinated. Already the media is erasing everything as the CDC tries to walk back their Freudian slip. I saved it though.

Quote from: DKG on September 01, 2023, 08:44:56 AMThe CDC let it slip that the vaccinated are more at risk of catching COVID than the unvaccinated. Already the media is erasing everything as the CDC tries to walk back their Freudian slip. I saved it though.

Well they were mistaken.

Quote from: caskur on September 01, 2023, 08:47:33 AMWell they were mistaken.

Sure Ms Epidemiologist. :crampe:

unless they agree with casket, everyone is wrong.... even the cdc....  :crampe:

Quote from: deadskinmask on September 01, 2023, 08:52:00 AMunless they agree with casket, everyone is wrong.... even the cdc....  :crampe:

You're learning fast.

Quote from: caskur on September 01, 2023, 09:00:06 AMYou're learning fast.

yeah.... unfortunately though, you DON'T....  :crampe:

Quote from: deadskinmask on September 01, 2023, 08:52:00 AMunless they agree with casket, everyone is wrong.... even the cdc....  :crampe:

I realize it is hard to accept that we were made fools of. But, unless we accept reality, we will repeat our mistakes. Vaccines and masking provided a false sense of security. We have effective treatments now for those who do get a little sicker than normal from variants. Masking and the current vaccines should be shelved permanently.

Quote from: DKG on September 01, 2023, 09:13:37 AMI realize it is hard to accept that we were made fools of. But, unless we accept reality, we will repeat our mistakes. Vaccines and masking provided a false sense of security. We have effective treatments now for those who do get a little sicker than normal from variants. Masking and the current vaccines should be shelved permanently.

none of the "current protocols" will be "shelved permanently".... masking, lockdowns and forced vaccinations are institutionalized now.... it doesn't matter how dangerous and ineffective they've been proven to be.... you will ALWAYS have enough idiots like casket, seamonkey and cc (rest in peace) to declare "intellectual superiority" and march forward.... the government wants you dead.... you're redundant, replaceable and unnecessary....

Ivermectin is 100% safe. I give it to my dog every month for heartworm. The dog thinks its a treat! Maybe next time I get the rona, I should eat one!!!  :t2723:

Quote from: Lokmar on September 01, 2023, 10:00:01 AMIvermectin is 100% safe. I give it to my dog every month for heartworm. The dog thinks its a treat! Maybe next time I get the rona, I should eat one!!!  :t2723:

why not? humans can get heartworm believe it or not.

Caskur really likes the taste of Kool Aid. It's the recommended beverage of those with significant shares in mega pharmaceutical companies.

Quote from: deadskinmask on September 01, 2023, 08:11:18 AMfascinating.... cases of the flu were at almost zero as well.... that only makes me MORE suspicious.... not less....  :crampe:

Who knew... all those years of suffering and all people had to do to eliminate the flu would be to put a piece of paper over their face... unbelievable!  :crampe:

I don't mind actually, I'm okay with laughing at the Sackur types in public. I've done it a few times this last month, smirking and chuckling at them. More than once others have joined in. One time an old biddy tried hitting me with her brolley, I simply turned it up a few notches, rolling about the floor in hysterical laughter until security came and kicked her out of the mall. Fuck her, she's an idiot. Anyone that wears a mask under the auspices of it protection is.

Here - I know it's preaching to the choir because there's no way in hell the Sackur types will ever take it on board, but you and the others might enjoy this LWC segment on the subject of masks. There's a link to their sources in the video description too if you need it.


https://rumble.com/v3cx5w2--live-daily-show-masks-vivek-vs-eminem-trump-is-for-the-culture.html?start=2139

Quote from: DKG on September 01, 2023, 08:44:56 AMThe CDC let it slip that the vaccinated are more at risk of catching COVID than the unvaccinated. Already the media is erasing everything as the CDC tries to walk back their Freudian slip. I saved it though.

I had a good old laugh when the CDC started talking about VAIDS and the lamestream media had to go full blown retard debunking the very institution they had previously lauded.

Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on September 01, 2023, 05:02:48 PMWho knew... all those years of suffering and all people had to do to eliminate the flu would be to put a piece of paper over their face... unbelievable!  :crampe:

I don't mind actually, I'm okay with laughing at the Sackur types in public. I've done it a few times this last month, smirking and chuckling at them. More than once others have joined in. One time an old biddy tried hitting me with her brolley, I simply turned it up a few notches, rolling about the floor in hysterical laughter until security came and kicked her out of the mall. Fuck her, she's an idiot. Anyone that wears a mask under the auspices of it protection is.

Here - I know it's preaching to the choir because there's no way in hell the Sackur types will ever take it on board, but you and the others might enjoy this LWC segment on the subject of masks. There's a link to their sources in the video description too if you need it.


https://rumble.com/v3cx5w2--live-daily-show-masks-vivek-vs-eminem-trump-is-for-the-culture.html?start=2139

You are the best person to wear a mask. It is one way to protect the public looking at your fugly Scottish face.

What do masks have to do with the lies associated with Ivermectin misuse?

Quote from: caskur on September 01, 2023, 06:08:19 PMYou are the best person to wear a mask. It is one way to protect the public looking at your fugly Scottish face.

Well tough titties Sackur, I'm not horning in on your gig when your betters order you to cover up your herpes riddled maw and you lisp "yeth mathter"...

Quote from: caskur on September 01, 2023, 06:08:19 PMWhat do masks have to do with the lies associated with Ivermectin misuse?

All part and parcel of the scare tactics waged by your betters I'm afraid.

Note I said your betters, they're a long way from being mine.  :yeahhh:

Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on September 01, 2023, 06:35:10 PMWell tough titties Sackur, I'm not horning in on your gig when your betters order you to cover up your herpes riddled maw and you lisp "yeth mathter"...

All part and parcel of the scare tactics waged by your betters I'm afraid.

Note I said your betters, they're a long way from being mine.  :yeahhh:

You have the blunt audacity to tell people I am arrogant, which is a complete fabrication from your dullard's witless imagination, then you turn around and write junk like that. Crowing gets you nowhere. All of you schlumps in this thread bar Oerdin and Dovey, are WRONG about Ivermectin and I have called you all out on it.

I am going to read the updated science on it while you stupidly cling to mistruths like the nettards you all are and I find disgusting because you, especially YOU, spread around outdated information. YOU, are like some starving mongrel mutt that LOVES to grip a chop bone of misinformation.


Why don't you man the fuck up and admit when you have been slayed.

Retards gonna caskur, yo'....

Quote from: Frood on September 01, 2023, 07:44:57 PMRetards gonna caskur, yo'....

You should worm yourself, take some Ivermectin. It does scabies too.

Quote from: caskur on September 01, 2023, 07:29:26 PMYou have the blunt audacity to tell people I am arrogant

But you are arrogant. You are convinced you are right in all matters and that everyone who disagrees with you is wrong. That is being arrogant.

Quote from: caskur on September 01, 2023, 07:29:26 PMI am going to read the updated science...

Ohhh, the updated science now is it? Let me guess, "The Science™" was inaccurate (or just plain WRONG) and it's now "The Updated Science™" that gets the Sackur Seal of Approval?

Does this mean you will humble yourself by saying all your previous claims about being Right in all things was in error? Somehow I doubt that.  :crampe:

Quote from: caskur on September 01, 2023, 07:29:26 PMWhy don't you man the fuck up and admit when you have been slayed.

Why don't you?

Quote from: Shen Li on September 01, 2023, 11:05:13 AMCaskur really likes the taste of Kool Aid. It's the recommended beverage of those with significant shares in mega pharmaceutical companies.

You are going from a mild to cold climate to an insufferably humid place where heat and humidity are completely unbearable. You will mainly live indoors under aircon for a good six months of the year during the wet season.

Germs thrive in those conditions so always have on hand antiseptic and any minor cut, scratch put antiseptic on it straight away. Everyone in my family have been to Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, China, Philippines, Borno, Bali, Sumatra and Sth Vietnam. They are the places we go for holidays.

Quote from: caskur on September 01, 2023, 07:52:18 PMYou should worm yourself, take some Ivermectin. It does scabies too.

Why? I've never come in contact with a West Australian. I'm at the peak of health.

Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on September 01, 2023, 07:55:25 PMBut you are arrogant. You are convinced you are right in all matters and that everyone who disagrees with you is wrong. That is being arrogant.

Ohhh, the updated science now is it? Let me guess, "The Science™" was inaccurate (or just plain WRONG) and it's now "The Updated Science™" that gets the Sackur Seal of Approval?

Does this mean you will humble yourself by saying all your previous claims about being Right in all things was in error? Somehow I doubt that.  :crampe:

Why don't you?

Meta-moron, go watch the video I PUT UP ya bloody fuckwit.... ALL SCIENTISTS HAVE TO BE PREPARED TO CHANGE THEIR FUCKING MINDS WHEN NEW DEVELOPMENTS SURFACE.  :Doh2:

Quote from: Frood on September 01, 2023, 08:11:34 PMWhy? I've never come in contact with a West Australian. I'm at the peak of health.

Well I heard having worms can be healthy but you are working on the land and the land in virgin habitat contains parasites. Frood fror frought.  :drunk2:

Quote from: caskur on September 01, 2023, 08:12:57 PMMeta-moron, go watch the video I PUT UP ya bloody fuckwit....

Fuck off Pincushion, this is the Flame Pit, not some bloody debate forum! :crampe:

Quote from: caskur on September 01, 2023, 08:12:57 PMALL SCIENTISTS HAVE TO BE PREPARED TO CHANGE THEIR FUCKING MINDS WHEN NEW DEVELOPMENTS SURFACE.  :Doh2:

Screaming is a good look for you by the way.  :biggrin:

Quote from: caskur on September 01, 2023, 08:17:12 PMWell I heard having worms can be healthy but you are working on the land and the land in virgin habitat contains parasites. Frood fror thought.  :drunk2:

It's Eastern States land so entirely good for health and well-being.

We shipped off all our parasites to WA anyway..  :pardon:

Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on September 01, 2023, 07:55:25 PMOhhh, the updated science now is it? Let me guess, "The Science™" was inaccurate (or just plain WRONG) and it's now "The Updated Science™" that gets the Sackur Seal of Approval?

There was no "science" on the horse dewormer Ivermectin on the covid problem. Some clueless doctors thought they would try it on unsuspecting dupes. I had no opinion on it scatter brain. I didn't run around like the halfwit right whingers here or Clive Palmer trying to smuggle it in to WA BECAUSE he was another clueless right whinging halfwit trying to smuggle drugs.  They carried out trials and then declared Ivermectin was of no use for treating covid. You do know the difference between a worm and a virus right?

I wait until I have all the facts in front of me before recommending anything and when I first heard about Ivermectin I had no opinion either way on it. Again you falsely accuse and have no substantial reason to point fingers my way... stick your fingers  up your own blurter.

Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on September 01, 2023, 07:55:25 PMDoes this mean you will humble yourself by saying all your previous claims about being Right in all things was in error? Somehow I doubt that.

Exactly. I have never been in error because I LISTEN before running off at my mouth like you do. Then watching you trip all over the place trying to digress from Ivermectin to masks and other lame duck Grandpa brain farts you have, pops, to avoid the actual truth ie. IVERMECTIN is useless against healing covid.

I didn't get vaccinated until 3 months after our closed borders were opened up and covid started rearing its deadly force though the community. I was also in hospital for over a fortnight.

Until McGowan had 90% or higher Vaxxed people he wasn't going to open any borders... after that was complete and the border opened, it was left up to God then because we couldn't keep closed borders indefinitely.

You do not need to respond to this post. I am done with you and your arrogant and ignorant self.

Quote from: Frood on September 01, 2023, 08:28:32 PMIt's Eastern States land so entirely good for health and well-being.

We shipped off all our parasites to WA anyway..  :pardon:

That's nice Frood. They'll come in handy for when we need to bait the craypots.

 :thumbup2:

Quote from: caskur on September 01, 2023, 10:41:44 PMThere was no "science" on the horse dewormer Ivermectin on the covid problem.

And I never said there was. My comments were regarding the human variant of Ivermectin, apart from me saying that if you took the horse variant then you deserved what you got.

You should pay closer attention before you open your moosh.

Quote from: caskur on September 01, 2023, 10:41:44 PMYou do know the difference between a worm and a virus right?

Why, which one are you this week?  :crampe:

Quote from: caskur on September 01, 2023, 10:41:44 PMI wait until I have all the facts in front of me before recommending anything...

You shouldn't be making medical recommendations at all, you aren't a trained doctor.

You should be leaving it to the experts.


(https://i.imgur.com/cCmTJEb.png)

 :s_laugh:

Quote from: caskur on September 01, 2023, 10:41:44 PMI have never been in error because I...

...am arrogant, we know.

Quote from: caskur on September 01, 2023, 10:41:44 PMIVERMECTIN is useless against healing covid.

Again, tell it to the people who took it and who recovered within a day or two of being prescribed it by qualified doctors. Feel free to scroll back for the names, I'm not doing homework for an arrogant pincushion and bootlicker for the establishment. Which is what you are.

Quote from: caskur on September 01, 2023, 10:41:44 PMI didn't get vaccinated until 3 months after our closed borders were opened up and covid started rearing its deadly force though the community. I was also in hospital for over a fortnight.

I don't care. That's your choice. I've not taken any prescription for Covid and neither time I've supposedly had it did I require a hospital stay. In point of fact I cleared all symptoms in a couple of days... which kind of makes a mockery of pretty much everything you've posted in this thread to date. "Deadly" my ass!  :crampe:

Quote from: caskur on September 01, 2023, 10:41:44 PMYou do not need to respond to this post. I am done with you and your arrogant and ignorant self.

Ohhh I'm sure you are... until next time. You could be one foot in your grave and you'd still be banging on about me or to me, after seventeen years of it it's become habit to you.

Like here (https://thebluecashew.net/index.php/topic,5677.0.html) for instance. Hell, I wasn't even here for that discussion and you were still banging on about me. Lying for the most part. Not a lot changes, does it?

Ohh, that's right - you're not going to answer... we'll see how long your resolution holds this time.


/me starts a stopwatch  :crampe:

Quote from: caskur on September 01, 2023, 10:41:44 PMYou do not need to respond to this post. I am done with you and your arrogant and ignorant self.

Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on September 02, 2023, 12:45:56 AMOhhh I'm sure you are... until next time. You could be one foot in your grave and you'd still be banging on about me or to me, after seventeen years of it it's become habit to you.

Like here (https://thebluecashew.net/index.php/topic,5677.0.html) for instance. Hell, I wasn't even here for that discussion and you were still banging on about me. Lying for the most part. Not a lot changes, does it?

Ohh, that's right - you're not going to answer... we'll see how long your resolution holds this time.


/me starts a stopwatch  :crampe:

Fifteen minutes (https://thebluecashew.net/index.php?msg=515277)  :crampe:

Wow, just look at how dishonest the PM of New Zealand is about people who got vaccine injuries.

https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1698262877143228495

Quote from: Oerdin on September 03, 2023, 06:06:10 PMWow, just look at how dishonest the PM of New Zealand is about people who got vaccine injuries.

https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1698262877143228495

True Dope, same same.

Quote from: Oerdin on September 03, 2023, 06:06:10 PMWow, just look at how dishonest the PM of New Zealand is about people who got vaccine injuries.

https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1698262877143228495

The sickest part of this whole covid business was sacking people who refused to get vaccinated.

People were not confident getting jabbed after they found out that 5 in a million could possibly die.

People are not scared of the vaccine anymore though. Before covid people and very young people at that, were dying from flu. One in our suburb (early 20s) And a nurse in Queensland...

People where I live have gone off and got their 4th and 5th shots.

I had two and covid so I feel immune for at least a good 2 years... but I can't really say for sure.

Quote from: Oerdin on September 03, 2023, 06:06:10 PMWow, just look at how dishonest the PM of New Zealand is about people who got vaccine injuries.

https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1698262877143228495

The stupid bitch logged ONE coronaviral infection and promptly shut down BOTH the north and south islands. No rhyme or reason to the response... unless you buy into the theory that this was a conspiracy from the get go.

On the topic of vaccine injuries, have you been following the farce of the latest Burning Man? Lefties stuck out in a toxic mudpit, overflowing portaloos, mud and shit everywhere and deathly ill leftards all over the place. Reports of deaths already being logged, FEMA already in attendance... which is weird considering there's no place to actually land the bastards.

And the rumour is afoot that much of the sickness is due to depleted immune systems of the attendees.

Must of the "sick" are probably drug over doses.  Burning man has been garbage for years with tech bros doing drugs, going to corporate sponsored shows, throwing trash and human waste every where, burning down retarded "art" and then claiming they are doing it "for the environment".

Quote from: Oerdin on September 03, 2023, 11:42:46 PMMust of the "sick" are probably drug over doses.  Burning man has been garbage for years with tech bros doing drugs, going to corporate sponsored shows, throwing trash and human waste every where, burning down retarded "art" and then claiming they are doing it "for the environment".

Most things are staged.

If you don't get that you haven't been around for many decades...lol

Quote from: Oerdin on September 03, 2023, 11:42:46 PMMust of the "sick" are probably drug over doses.

The covid jab is a drug, you get it at a drug shop. And in a lot of cases in parking lots, where all good drugs are sold.

A federal appeals court in New Orleans ruled on Friday that the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) had overstepped its authority in their ruling that three doctors will be able to move forward with their lawsuit over the use of ivermectin off-label to treat COVID-19.

Dr. Mary Talley Bowden, one of three doctors who initially filed the petition, trumpeted the ruling as a victory for not only the truth, but patient rights.

"The FDA misled the public into thinking it has more authority than it does," Dr. Bowden, a practitioner and founder of Coalition of Health Freedom. "This decision confirms that the FDA is not your doctor and has no authority to tell doctors how to practice medicine."

Judge Don Willett wrote for the three person panel that also included Jennifer Walker Elrod and Edith Brown Clement. "The Doctors have plausibly alleged that FDA's Posts fell on the wrong side of the line between telling about and telling to."

"FDA is not a physician. It has authority to inform, announce, and apprise—but not to endorse, denounce, or advise. The Doctors have plausibly alleged that FDA's Posts fell on the wrong side of the line between telling about and telling to. As such, the Doctors can use the APA to assert their ultra vires claims against the Agencies and the Officials."

The anti-ivermectin messaging put out by FDA officials also drew the ire of Judge Willett, who wrote that "Left unmentioned in most of that messaging: ivermectin also comes in a human version. And while the human version of ivermectin is not FDA-approved to treat the coronavirus, some people were using it off-label for that purpose."

In the ruling social media posts made by the agency were cited as evidence, citing that "Even tweet-sized doses of personalized medical advice are beyond FDA's statutory authority," he wrote.

The FDA on Aug. 21, 2021, wrote on X, formerly known as Twitter: "You are not a horse. You are not a cow. Seriously, y'all. Stop it."

The Dems have weaponized every agency in the Biden admin and uses them to attack and abuse anyone they dislike.

Quote from: Oerdin on September 07, 2023, 03:28:22 PMThe Dems have weaponized every agency in the Biden admin and uses them to attack and abuse anyone they dislike.

They claim to be the party of science. As long as science says lockdowns, masking, mandates and forcing folks to drive electric are needed in emergencies.

Quote from: Herman on September 07, 2023, 10:33:59 PMThey claim to be the party of science. As long as science says lockdowns, masking, mandates and forcing folks to drive electric are needed in emergencies.

Don't forget "only two beers a week, limited animal products, no gas stoves, no gasoline powered anything including lawnmowers, whipper snippers, and generators, et cetera...."

If there is something sacred to your lifestyle, Biden's handlers and the sleepy one will try to fuck it...

The Science is in on Ivermectin. It isn't a medicine to treat covid in the human recommendation form either.


And doctors BURY THEIR MISTAKES.

Quote from: caskur on September 03, 2023, 09:23:44 PMThe sickest part of this whole covid business was sacking people who refused to get vaccinated.

People were not confident getting jabbed after they found out that 5 in a million could possibly die.

People are not scared of the vaccine anymore though. Before covid people and very young people at that, were dying from flu. One in our suburb (early 20s) And a nurse in Queensland...

People where I live have gone off and got their 4th and 5th shots.

I had two and covid so I feel immune for at least a good 2 years... but I can't really say for sure.

Nobody I talk to has had further than 2 jabs around here, and only to keep their jobs.

Most of them are constantly pulling sickies...and the rest who got no fake vaccines... well, we're virtually bulletproof.

Sorry about your jab tho...

https://www.cdc.gov/respiratory-viruses/whats-new/covid-19-variant.html

Have a read.... but for the shortened version, the newest variant (like others before it...lol) "may be more capable of causing infection in people who have previously had COVID-19 or who have received COVID-19 vaccines."


:crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:

Quote from: caskur on September 08, 2023, 02:15:23 AMThe Science is in on Ivermectin. It isn't a medicine to treat covid in the human recommendation form either.


And doctors BURY THEIR MISTAKES.

 :Doh2:

Ok, Swamp Karen... :pardon:

Quote from: Frood on September 08, 2023, 02:23:21 AM:Doh2:

Ok, Swamp Karen... :pardon:

Well a doctor was treating Kurt's father for a stomach ulcer at the age of 40 but he had stomach cancer and killed Kurt's dad at 42.

Doctors bury their mistakes. There is nothing Karen about my comment Frood ....it is a plain fact.

Quote from: caskur on September 08, 2023, 03:03:25 AMWell a doctor was treating Kurt's father for a stomach ulcer at the age of 40 but he had stomach cancer and killed Kurt's dad at 42.

Doctors bury their mistakes. There is nothing Karen about my comment Frood ....it is a plain fact.

Doctors once had the power to prescribe on or off label medicines to treat people's unique conditions.

Then supposed health authority agencies full of supposed doctors (all government funded) started issuing directives towards each doctor under the threat of licence removal.

Doctors are both good and bad.

Organisations of Doctors almost always try to bury or skirt their mistakes... and these days, I don't even believe the covid jabs were unintentional organisational mistakes.

Authorities want as many civilians dead as possible.... or gradually removed from the planet.

Quote from: caskur on September 08, 2023, 03:03:25 AMWell a doctor was treating Kurt's father for a stomach ulcer at the age of 40 but he had stomach cancer and killed Kurt's dad at 42.

Doctors bury their mistakes. There is nothing Karen about my comment Frood ....it is a plain fact.

Then why remove the richest most educated and not the other sewer rats?

Quote from: caskur on September 08, 2023, 05:31:01 AMThen why remove the richest most educated and not the other sewer rats?

Because they're stupid.

Lulz...

QuoteThe CDC admits that if you are 'vaxxed' then you are more likely to get the latest strain of CONVID!

https://www.bitchute.com/video/R1pJge2gyaKO/

Totally 100% safe and effective!   :crampe:

Quote from: Frood on September 08, 2023, 10:40:23 PMLulz...

https://www.bitchute.com/video/R1pJge2gyaKO/

Totally 100% safe and effective!   :crampe:

Jim Crow Joe is going to start pushing it.

Time to run your B-Roll Caskur, the experts are disagreeing with you again!  :crampe:

Quote from: Frood on September 08, 2023, 10:40:23 PMLulz...

https://www.bitchute.com/video/R1pJge2gyaKO/

Totally 100% safe and effective!   :crampe:

So because 2 nobodies read out a paragraph that any fool could have typed up, it must be true.  :crampe:

 :facepalm:

Quote from: Herman on September 08, 2023, 10:52:07 PMJim Crow Joe is going to start pushing it.

Who is Jim Crow and why should we care?

no one has anything useful to add to this topic so I am locking it.

Thank you to contributers.

Quote from: caskur on September 10, 2023, 01:07:22 PMSo because 2 nobodies read out a paragraph that any fool could have typed up, it must be true.  :crampe:

 :facepalm:

^Sackur, unironically describing the entire media coverage of the Pinko Pox pandemic.

Quote from: caskur on September 10, 2023, 01:07:22 PMSo because 2 nobodies read out a paragraph that any fool could have typed up, it must be true.  :crampe:

 :facepalm:

https://www.cdc.gov/respiratory-viruses/whats-new/covid-19-variant.html

^^^ There ya go, dollface....

Bon appetit!

Enjoy your crow...  :laughinatu:


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Quote from: caskur on September 10, 2023, 01:20:03 PMWho is Jim Crow and why should we care?

no one has anything useful to add to this topic so I am locking it.

Unlocked it. Because free speech and shit, moderator privilege (aka "PANEL ANYOOOOOSE") and because my name is Adolf. Nyah nyah nyah.

First: Jim Crow Joe = the steward currently pretending to be President of the USA. As in Joe "I Can Count To Potato" Biden, kiddie groper and adrenochrome huffer extroadinaire. BIG fan of the alleged vaccines, thinks you should take eighteen more in your butthole. Because new variant hyper-deadly to the VAIDS sufferers authored by the initial jabs.

You remember them - the ones that "made it possible for you to reopen your borders"? "Heyyy, take this untested magical sauce, now we've lied to you about the efficacy of other treatments (like Ivermectin) and we can get back to normal!" Well guess what... THIS is your new normal.




Tethered to your pharmaceutical company, taking whatever they tell you to while you juice up the bugs for your sustenance. Because if you don't, they can just withdraw your drugs and treatments, along with anything else they feel like taking from you. Money, car, house... whatever. Do as they say or they'll crush you. Yes, even that lackey premier you were praising a few weeks back.

You need to stop leaning left. Take some of that hatred and scorn you reserve for the people online you think have Wronged you and start hurling it against the people who are actually fucking you up. They only occupy prestigious positions of Power because people like you sing their praises. Cut it out and take back what is yours.

This is useful advice, even if I say so myself.