It is extrenely safe and sold over the counter in much of the world.

Quote from: caskur on August 30, 2023, 05:48:06 PMgo back and read what Prof. said and how she did it.... you know the latest covid is SARS 2 we already had SAR 1 20 YEARS ago. So vaccines were already been worked on.


before covid vaccines over 5,000,000 humans immune systems failed them... probably more than, 5,000,000. Do you want to rely on your immuune system getting a belt of tetanus (bacterial infection) or Malaia (viral) in your blood?... I am on my smart TV so I can't C&P so you are just going to have to read them.

you need to think it through... I saw the Prof. interviewed and praised for the work she did and the articles I posted on pages here before this one, Prof. Gilbet explains HOW SHE DID IT working on the vaccine for 10 years NOT as you people here think it was done.

I don't want to lose you. The more people in my real life I have seen have no adverse affects from the shots, the more confident and comfortable I am about them stopping you going to hospital and/or dying.


Research the inventer not the detractors.

Silly Cas.  We all lose everyone.  It's up to God, not us.  And while I understand trying to do everything one can to stave off loss for ones self and ones loved ones, in the end it ain't up to us.

With this Covid stuff, it was clear early on that the reaction to the outbreak was far more damaging to society than the little bug itself, and the draconian measures slammed down on people by governments around the world, your government in particular, caused far more harm than good.

Also, the numbers you like to cite regarding the low death and disease transmission rates in Australia probably have more to due with Australias geographical isolation than it does with anything your government did.

Just sayin'.

I have .005 gigs left before I get cut off the phone so watch the inventor speak...


https://youtu.be/OVf_d_Inmo8?si=jxAVtUuciqeQOfZK




But please refrain thinking I am not educated on this subject...

TA!!!

I am actually really getting pissed off with far left loons like some of my neighbors and far right ding bats I meet on the net who are told what to think by their political leans.

To me you are all dumber than a box of rocks except Flea and Dovey who actually listen to what is going on in any subject they care to join in on.

Quote from: Reggie Essent on August 30, 2023, 06:14:19 PMSilly Cas.  We all lose everyone.  It's up to God, not us.  And while I understand trying to do everything one can to stave off loss for ones self and ones loved ones, in the end it ain't up to us.

With this Covid stuff, it was clear early on that the reaction to the outbreak was far more damaging to society than the little bug itself, and the draconian measures slammed down on people by governments around the world, your government in particular, caused far more harm than good.

Also, the numbers you like to cite regarding the low death and disease transmission rates in Australia probably have more to due with Australias geographical isolation than it does with anything your government did.

Just sayin'.

Of course. Australians were not allowed to travel abroad. But, when it did hit it was like North America. The only thing that the China style extreme measures Australia adopted did was delay the inevitable.

When it did hit after a while, most new cases were people who had at least two doses. And a lot of the deaths attributed to COVID were people who also had at least two doses. Same as both Canada, the US, Europe, and East Asia.

I don't care if caskur wants to get a COVID jab once a year. If that along with masking provides her with the false sense of security she feels she needs, so be it. Her body, her business.

What scares the hell out of most people is when our elected officials double down on what didn't work and implemnent vax and masking mandates again.

Quote from: caskur on August 30, 2023, 06:21:11 PMI have .005 gigs left before I get cut off the phone so watch the inventor speak...


https://youtu.be/OVf_d_Inmo8?si=jxAVtUuciqeQOfZK

But please refrain thinking I am not educated on this subject...

TA!!!

So?

Quote from: DKG on August 30, 2023, 06:39:24 PMSo?

She said, (and she is a scientist, you aren't) you have more risk of blood clots from getting covid than the shots themselves.... which means you could be harbouring a clot or clots and you wouldn't know it.

What do you mean so? She already had vaccine for a corona virus... years before covid-19 broke out.... put your listening ears on mere male.

Quote from: caskur on August 30, 2023, 06:34:09 PMI am actually really getting pissed off with far left loons like some of my neighbors and far right ding bats I meet on the net who are told what to think by their political leans.

To me you are all dumber than a box of rocks except Flea and Dovey who actually listen to what is going on in any subject they care to join in on.

I am conservative and got three jabs.  I also take Vitamin E daily, try to exercise, and will probably buy some COVID related meds next time I am down in Tijuana.  I will not mask or stay at home like last time.  It was obviously not based upon the actual science and I stead 2as political theater for the 2020 and 2022 elections.  I will continue to wash my hands, not touch my face, and generally observe personal space where ever possible

I find that reasonable and fairly balanced especially since they don't even have an approved VAC for the last supposed strain.

Quote from: Oerdin on August 30, 2023, 07:02:06 PMI am conservative and got three jabs.  I also take Vitamin E daily, try to exercise, and will probably buy some COVID related meds next time I am down in Tijuana.  I will not mask or stay at home like last time.  It was obviously not based upon the actual science and I stead 2as political theater for the 2020 and 2022 elections.  I will continue to wash my hands, not touch my face, and generally observe personal space where ever possible

I find that reasonable and fairly balanced especially since they don't even have an approved VAC for the last supposed strain.

I have ALWAYS found you 100% level headed.

I won't get boosters... I am going to rely on antivirils if I get it again.

good on you..

Quote from: deadskinmask on August 30, 2023, 03:19:15 PMthis is from 2019 (pre-covid) discussing how to bypass safety testing for new vaccines.... 

https://www.bitchute.com/video/WYV5agwFlzYQ/

casket.... you retarded fuckin whore.... you hit this with a "disagree"??? what is there to "disagree" with, you retarded cunt??? thats EXACTLY what it is.... fuckin mongoloid.... 

https://www.kumc.edu/about/news/news-archive/jama-ivermectin-study.html

Ivermectin shown ineffective in treating COVID-19, according to multi-site study including KU Medical Center


Results of the study of the antiparasitic medication, once a much-discussed potential treatment for COVID-19, were published in the Journal of the American Medical Association.

December 1, 2022 | Anne Christiansen-Bullers


Researchers at the University of Kansas Medical Center were part of a multi-site collaboration that found that ivermectin has no measurable effect in improving COVID-19 outcomes.

In an article recently published in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), the researchers concluded that taking 400 mcg/kg ivermectin for three days, when compared with a placebo, did not significantly improve the chances for a patient with mild to moderate symptoms of COVID-19 to avoid hospitalization.

The use of ivermectin also showed no measurable decrease in the severity of COVID-19 symptoms or the length of time these patients experienced COVID-19 symptoms.

"The most important takeaway from the study is that ivermectin does not help improve outcomes from COVID-19 infection and thus should not be used as a treatment for COVID-19," said Tiffany Schwasinger-Schmidt, M.D., Ph.D., associate professor of internal medicine at the University of Kansas School of Medicine-Wichita, director of the Center for Clinical Research and site director of the study for the KU Medical Center location in Wichita.

Mario Castro, M.D., MPH, vice chair for clinical and translational research and division director of pulmonary and critical care medicine for KU School of Medicine, provided oversight of the study.

About the study
KU Medical Center was part of a nationwide initiative that allowed research institutions to collaborate on COVID-19 studies in hopes of getting results sooner than any one site could achieve on its own.

This initiative, the Accelerating COVID-19 Therapeutic Interventions and Vaccines Study Group and Investigators, is also known as ACTIV. This study to examine ivermectin, as well as a few other current medications to gauge their effectiveness against COVID-19, goes by the name of ACTIV-6.

The ACTIV-6 study enrolled 1,800 participants. These participants received packages at their residences that contained either a dose of ivermectin or a placebo. Because it was a double-blind study, the participants did not know whether they received ivermectin or not.

Of the initial enrollment, 1,591 participants with confirmed cases of COVID-19 reported receiving their shipment, and follow-up data were collected by 93 separate study sites across the United States.

"This trial was innovative in that it used a remote clinical trial design, allowing people in all areas in the U.S. to enroll in a clinical trial and have the investigational drug shipped directly to their house," explained Schwasinger-Schmidt. "This is different in that most clinical trials require participants to come to a center to receive study medication."

The study results
When the participants' data were analyzed, researchers came up with two results. The first was the median recovery time, or the amount of time it took patients to report having recovered from COVID-19. The second was the number of hospitalizations or deaths within each study group.

Researchers found that the median recovery time for those taking ivermectin was 12 days, and those on the placebo was 13 days. There were 10 hospitalizations or deaths in the ivermectin group and nine in the placebo group. But these differences failed to be statistically significant, leading researchers to their conclusion that "these findings do not support the use of ivermectin in patients with mild to moderate COVID-19."

What is ivermectin?
Ivermectin is an oral medication initially introduced as an animal de-wormer in 1971 and approved for human use in 1986. Its main purpose (to remove parasites from the body of either animals or humans) means it was initially classified as an "anti-parasitic agent," according to Schwasinger-Schmidt.

"It kills parasites that cause river blindness and other illnesses and has been used safely in millions of people," she said.

Ivermectin and COVID-19
Ivermectin entered the American lexicon as a possible treatment for COVID-19 when Pierre Kory, M.D., a pulmonologist and president of Frontline COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC) testified before a U.S. Senate committee hearing in December 2020. Kory called ivermectin a "miracle drug" against COVID-19 and urged the government to issue prescription guidelines for its use in treating the coronavirus.

Prior to Kory's testimony, Australian researchers in the spring of 2020 had observed that ivermectin killed the coronavirus in a laboratory setting. But a story in The Seattle Times pointed out that the amount used in the lab was much higher than the approved use for humans and could be fatal.

Tests continued throughout the world, however, building that hope that Kory shared with the Senate committee. "Ivermectin had been studied in the laboratory prior to implementation in this trial, and it appeared to decrease replication of the COVID-19 virus through decreasing responses in the inflammatory pathway to the virus," Castro said.

Ivermectin became an especially hopeful solution for individuals not convinced in the safety or efficacy of the COVID-19 vaccine. But these worldwide studies — including a clinical trial of ivermectin in Brazil called TOGETHER and now the ACTIV-6 trial in the U.S. — have failed to find ivermectin helpful for COVID-19 treatment.

"In clinical trials, it is equally as important to discover which medications don't work to treat illness as well as medications that do," Schwasinger-Schmidt said. "This study showed what didn't work."

Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on August 30, 2023, 03:09:57 PM"Perfectly acceptable risks" aside, Australia's 0.4% mortalitly rate which you cited is a damn sight higher than the 0.03% Covid mortality rate it was enjoying prior to the "vaccine" rollouts. So much for Australia "doing the Right Thing", a "pandemic" that was claiming less lives than your annual road toll, but your government was certainly not going to let that stop them. Now on aggregate your country is weaker and more likely to die from the pinko pox than in previous years, your economy is in tatters and you have a subset of lunatics wandering your streets and malls that think wearing a magic talisman over their moosh is going to save them.

I followed world-0-meter which started at 14% fatality going off their old SARS 1 then it started dropping considerably to 4 %,... then 2% And it Frood who alerted me it was under 1% so I checked and it at .4%.

My government as you call them, you ridiculous clown, followed the medical advice.

This virus had NOTHING to do with the government... Anyone's government... ffs!~

You think Ivermectin is a cure!!!! 


You are ridiculous haggerling over .1%... 

Ivermectin can work very well if administered early. With the treatments available now, vaccines are no longer necessary. Not to mention the indisputable truth that they have no medicinal or prevention value. They are placebos.

Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on August 30, 2023, 03:48:46 PMI wanted to ask you actually, what you think of the practice of mixing viral vector treatments with mRNA ones. It never made a lot of sense to me that would even be a thing - maybe choosing one or the other, but not mixing the two. Please assume for the purposes of your answer that I already have a passing knowledge of the difference between the introduction of deactivated viral material and the introduction of agents that rewrite an organism's cells to mimic the viral material.

I have a relative in Australia who for their two shot regimen had an AZ followed by a Pfizer over the course of a month. No problems were immediately evident, however when the boosters were rolled out six months later they experienced a cognitive decline which within three months reduced their mental faculties to that of a three year old immediately following their first Pfizer booster. I'd never heard of a case of such rapid onset of dementia. This was prior to Pfizer admitting it was one of the possible side effects from their treatment too.

 I really don't feel comfortable with the MRNA shots at all. So I'm even weird about mixing them.

 I won't get it and I don't want anyone I love getting it ...even mixing it.

Quote from: Thiel on August 30, 2023, 09:40:05 PMIvermectin can work very well if administered early. With the treatments available now, vaccines are no longer necessary. Not to mention the indisputable truth that they have no medicinal or prevention value. They are placebos.

Same with Relenza during the swine flu hoax of 2009ish.... you had to start snorting it the moment you were coming down with the SV or it wasn't as effective.

Don't mind Caskur... she gets her talking points straight from the Australian fuckwits in power via the Australian Broadcasting Corporation...(ABC) or as I like to call it, the Australian Bullshitting Corporation..

Elderly people with mental decline love getting their info from the ABC...