HOW Safe is Ivermectin?

[caskur]

I remember they stopped giving the AZ vaccine to a lot of age groups in Canada because too many folks were dying from blood clots.

If caskur is going to give credit to big pharma for something they did not do and that is save lives, then she should hold those same corporatist scumbags responsible for the deaths their bullshit vaccines caused.

God kills more people from bee stings than big pharma killed from clot shots.

We can't save everyone.

[caskur]

That is really misleading, but what does anybody expect from the BBC. BBC stands for British Bullshit Corporation.

The BBC is talking about research on MRNA vaccines in general, not these ripoff vaccines that even the CEO of Pfizer was forced to acknowledge are useless.

Pfizer CEO: Our Vaccines Offer 'Limited, If Any Protection'
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2022/01/11/pfizer-ceo-our-vaccines-offer-little-protection-n2601670

Well, that is probably true except Prof Gilbert the covid vaccine developer thinks otherwise.... And she worked on the vaccine for 10 yeaars.

I hedged my bets in the long run and stopped listening to you paranoid dupes and got vaxxed with Novavax ....I was also lucky to come down with covid 2 months after the antiviral came on the market or I'd be history now.

 Ivermectin won't save you from Covid.... That is the biggest load of garbage out there.

Where are the stories of Ivermectin cures...Got any credible ones Herm???

[Reggie Essent]

We had many negative RAT tests... don't throw them away, they are crucial...I had 2 vaccinations. 8 weeks later I had covid and because the RATS said I was postive I was able to get the antiviral immediately. You have to take the antiviral within the first 5 days of getting covid.

the antiviral was/is a game changer.

Bah!  It was all a hoax, Cas.  When I get the sniffles, I load up on Vitamin C and zinc, and sure enough two or three days later I feel better.  Didn't need test, didn't need antivirals, didn't need a vax or anything else that the taxpayers shelled out billions for ... and neither did anyone else according to the latest data.

I think you Aussies got had the worst.

[Herman]

God kills more people from bee stings than big pharma killed from clot shots.

We can't save everyone.

About fifty eight percent of the COVID deaths one year ago in the US were fully vaccinated. The only thing those bullshit vaccines saved was the bottom line of big pharma.

[Herman]

Well, that is probably true except Prof Gilbert the covid vaccine developer thinks otherwise.... And she worked on the vaccine for 10 yeaars.

I hedged my bets in the long run and stopped listening to you paranoid dupes and got vaxxed with Novavax ....I was also lucky to come down with covid 2 m

Well, that is probably true except Prof Gilbert the covid vaccine developer thinks otherwise.... And she worked on the vaccine for 10 yeaars.

I hedged my bets in the long run and stopped listening to you paranoid dupes and got vaxxed with Novavax ....I was also lucky to come down with covid 2 months after the antiviral came on the market or I'd be history now.

 Ivermectin won't save you from Covid.... That is the biggest load of garbage out there.

Where are the stories of Ivermectin cures...Got any credible ones Herm???

onths after the antiviral came on the market or I'd be history now.

 Ivermectin won't save you from Covid.... That is the biggest load of garbage out there.

Where are the stories of Ivermectin cures...Got any credible ones Herm???

Vaccines will not save you from COVID either, but yet you are still in denial despite the fact that we now know they did not do what we paid big pharma billions for.

Ivermectin has been used for almost forty years in the US. It may or may not work as a treatment. Same with Zip packs and hydroxychloroquine.

[Herman]

Bah!  It was all a hoax, Cas.  When I get the sniffles, I load up on Vitamin C and zinc, and sure enough two or three days later I feel better.  Didn't need test, didn't need antivirals, didn't need a vax or anything else that the taxpayers shelled out billions for ... and neither did anyone else according to the latest data.

I think you Aussies got had the worst.

Big pharma should be sued into near extinction the way Perdue was over Oxy. Instead our scumbag governments are giving them more money for the next variant. Damn, we are stupid.

[Reggie Essent]

Big pharma should be sued into near extinction the way Perdue was over Oxy. Instead our scumbag governments are giving them more money for the next variant. Damn, we are stupid.

We were. It's also a bit fishy how they came out with a vaccine so quickly.  Normally, vaccines takes years to be developed, tested, approved and then manufactured and distributed.  They did this in, what, less than a year? 

Almost as if they were all ramped up and ready to go even before that dumb chink in the Wuhan laboratory got bat piss on her hands and then wiped her eyes before clocking out and strolling down to the wet market for a bowl of bat soup.

I'm telling you!  It was all a scam.

[Herman]

We were. It's also a bit fishy how they came out with a vaccine so quickly.  Normally, vaccines takes years to be developed, tested, approved and then manufactured and distributed.  They did this in, what, less than a year? 

Almost as if they were all ramped up and ready to go even before that dumb chink in the Wuhan laboratory got bat piss on her hands and then wiped her eyes before clocking out and strolling down to the wet market for a bowl of bat soup.

I'm telling you!  It was all a scam.

Vaccines should be fifty five percent effective in order to be considered vaccines. By the CDC's own admission they were about 22 peecent effective on variants. Even that number seems fishy. If you didn't catch COVID or if you did and did not go to the hospital they are giving credit to big pharma for something even they were forced to admit was ineffective.

These vaccines were all about money and had nothing to do with preventing the spread or saving lives. And the scam moves to the next phase.

[Reggie Essent]

These vaccines were all about money and had nothing to do with preventing the spread or saving lives. And the scam moves to the next phase.

They were about control, brother.  I saw some idiot driving in his car alone with a mask on today.  Must be a new variant.

[Herman]

They were about control, brother.  I saw some idiot driving in his car alone with a mask on today.  Must be a new variant.

That too. But, they made a lot of money from it. I suppose I should not complaim. The old lady and I saw our pharma stocks soar.

And don't remind me about masking. That along with the denial of lab leaks, the ineffectiveness of the scam vaccines was another lie were told.

[caskur]

Bah!  It was all a hoax, Cas.  When I get the sniffles, I load up on Vitamin C and zinc, and sure enough two or three days later I feel better.  Didn't need test, didn't need antivirals, didn't need a vax or anything else that the taxpayers shelled out billions for ... and neither did anyone else according to the latest data.

I think you Aussies got had the worst.

You haven't had covid yet.

I know you think you are trying to humour me but at your age you need to take this seriously...

I also take zinc, vit C and D3 everyday.

The pain at the top of my lungs was the worst pain I ever had.

My variety of covid was Omicron.

[caskur]

We were. It's also a bit fishy how they came out with a vaccine so quickly.  Normally, vaccines takes years to be developed, tested, approved and then manufactured and distributed.  They did this in, what, less than a year? 

Almost as if they were all ramped up and ready to go even before that dumb chink in the Wuhan laboratory got bat piss on her hands and then wiped her eyes before clocking out and strolling down to the wet market for a bowl of bat soup.

I'm telling you!  It was all a scam.

it was not being worked on in less than year... I know you are too lazy to read posts .... the vaccine was being worked on for 10 years by Prof. Gilbert.

Just Ggoogle her before you go any further.

[caskur]

I'm telling you!  It was all a scam.

Tell that to the undertaker who carried off a cruise ship 9 elderly dead German tourists in Fremantle harbour Feb/March 2020...

[Frood]

You will have to find the links yourselves but this story is from the BBC.

I HAVE SEEN YOU VACCINE CONSPIRISTS think this covid vaccine was just started being produced AFTER covid starting spreading which is UNTRUE.


Oxford vaccine: How did they make it so quickly?
Published
23 November 2020


Trials of the vaccine have been carried out around the world

By James Gallagher
Health and science correspondent

Ten years' vaccine work achieved in about 10 months. Yet no corners cut in designing, testing and manufacturing.

They are two statements that sound like a contradiction, and have led some to ask how we can be sure the Oxford vaccine - which has published its first results showing it is highly effective at stopping Covid-19 - is safe when it has been made so fast.

So, this is the real story of how the Oxford vaccine happened so quickly.

It is one that relies on good fortune as well as scientific brilliance; has origins in both a deadly Ebola outbreak and a chimpanzee's runny nose; and sees the researchers go from having no money in the bank to chartering private planes.

The work started years ago
Scientist working on the vaccinePA
We were planning how can we go really quickly to have a vaccine in someone in the shortest possible time
Prof Sarah Gilbert
The biggest misconception is the work on the vaccine started when the pandemic began.

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The world's biggest Ebola outbreak in 2014-2016 was a catastrophe. The response was too slow and 11,000 people died.

"The world should have done better," Prof Sarah Gilbert, the architect of the Oxford vaccine, told me.

In the recriminations that followed, a plan emerged for how to tackle the next big one. At the end of a list of known threats was "Disease X" - the sinister name of a new, unknown infection that would take the world by surprise.

The Jenner Institute at the University of Oxford - named after the scientist that performed the first vaccination in 1796, and now home to some of the world's leading experts - designed a strategy for defeating an unknown enemy.

"We were planning how can we go really quickly to have a vaccine in someone in the shortest possible time," Prof Gilbert said.

"We hadn't got the plan finished, but we did do pretty well."

The critical piece of technology
The central piece of their plan was a revolutionary style of vaccine known as "plug and play". It has two highly desirable traits for facing the unknown - it is both fast and flexible.

Conventional vaccines - including the whole of the childhood immunisation programme - use a killed or weakened form of the original infection, or inject fragments of it into the body. But these are slow to develop.

Instead the Oxford researchers constructed ChAdOx1 - or Chimpanzee Adenovirus Oxford One.

Scientists took a common cold virus that infected chimpanzees and engineered it to become the building block of a vaccine against almost anything.

Before Covid, 330 people had been given ChAdOx1 based-vaccines for diseases ranging from flu to Zika virus, and prostate cancer to the tropical disease chikungunya.

The virus from chimps is genetically modified so it cannot cause an infection in people. It can then be modified again to contain the genetic blueprints for whatever you want to train the immune system to attack. This target is known is an antigen.

ChAdOx1 is in essence a sophisticated, microscopic postman. All the scientists have to do is change the package.

"We drop it in and off we go," said Prof Gilbert.

January 1

I got as far as "BBC" and didn't bother to read anything further.

The ABC like the BBC, CBC, NPR, and a whole slew of government funded news spews wank tanks across the Western World are propaganda arms tasked with manipulating the gullible, the lazy, the stupid, the elderly, and in most cases... all four of these tags apply simultaneously to their stalwart consumers of unbridled SHIT!

You think you're smart but sometimes I question that.

[caskur]

That is OK Frood, I also ignore most of your under-researched rubbish on your alternative paranoid sites.

I laugh when you reject the truth.