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Diverse Debates => Politics => Topic started by: Herman on September 08, 2023, 09:32:16 PM

Title: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on September 08, 2023, 09:32:16 PM
The Conservatives are holding their annual convention in Quebec City. Pollivere talks about returning Canada to pre Justine times.

Students walking down safe streets to class. The distant noise of yet another house being built. A young couple sitting on the front porch of their home, soaking up the sun with a cold drink in one hand and a hard-earned paycheque in the other.

For the first time since he became leader, nearly a year ago, Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre painted a clear picture of what he means by his go-to phrase "Bring It Home"

Poilievre went on presenting the choice that will present himself in the next election, whenever it may be: a "common-sense" Conservative government or a "reckless coalition" of the Liberals and the NDP that punishes work, takes your money and unleashes crime and chaos.

"It's the choice between a country where people who work hard can realize their dreams or a country where the government divides between good and bad Canadians," he said in French.

Poilievre took the crowd back to the pre-Trudeau times, eight years ago. He said that inflation and interest rates were rock bottom, taxes were low and the budget was balanced. And despite a financial crisis, wars in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and Ukraine, inflation was low.

"Thank you, Stephen Harper," he said, as the crowd cheered.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on September 08, 2023, 09:38:07 PM
Pollivere said, "after eight years of Liberal government, Canadians are smarting from soaring inflation, the high cost of everything and a divisiveness within our nation that's fuelled by self-appointed activists telling us how to live our lives."
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on September 08, 2023, 11:05:15 PM
This appeared in the National Post. Quality of life in Canada has gone down the shitter under Justine's watch.

 A recent study by the Public Policy Forum into the rise of polarization, appropriately called Far and Widening, said only 50 per cent of the respondents it polled believe voting is the best way to enact change. One person in six said that only taking power from "global elites" would effect real change.

It used to be the case that most people could agree on what many consider to be "Canada's advantage" — an immigration policy that has attracted the best and brightest from around the world.

Yet that too is breaking down, in large part because of careless, incoherent federal government policy.

Last week, a video on social media featured a long lineup of what appeared to be Southeast Asian students queuing to apply for jobs at a Food Basics supermarket in Hamilton, Ont. The comments in response to the video suggested that a nativist backlash to Liberal immigration policy is in full swing.

The government has overseen an explosion in international students coming to Canada — 900,000 this year alone — many of whom are using education as a back door to citizenship.

By paying tuition fees of around $25,000, students can come to Canada, study part-time at a private college, work legally in low-wage jobs and stay in the country for years after graduating. Coupled with a Liberal plan to boost the number of permanent residents to 500,000 by 2025 — double the number from a decade earlier — it is clear that there has been a massive increase in low-skilled immigration that threatens to put pressure on wages at the bottom end of the labour market.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: DKG on September 09, 2023, 05:40:27 PM
Social conservatives within the Tories could reverse the momentum for the party. PP is smart and his laser focus on pocketbook issues is why the Tories have made rapid gains in the polls. Abortion and transgender rights/privileges is a guarantee that Trudeau wins a fourth term. I hope PP does not give the fringes the time of day.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Lokmar on September 09, 2023, 08:24:51 PM
In America for the last 30 years, CONservatives have constantly been looking for excuses why they kept on losing. The reality was, none of our candidates had any real strong moral and national convictions. THATS why they kept losing.

W Bush was pretty milque toast and barely won. oniggrah wasnt exactly middle of the road and he DAMN WELL wasnt the 2nd time. Of course there was cheating during his 2nd election which helped move him over the finish line. Romney just didnt generate enthusiasm because he's softer than baby shit.

Juan McStain lost because everyone knew his "maverick" bullshit to mean he was for illegal immigration and a whole hoast of other liberal bullshit and at the same time, he wanted to occupy the whole fucking planet. Romney was a fucking straight up libtard. I mean the guy implemented  obama care in Taxachusetts. Trump was the most extreme candidate the GOP has ran in the last 100 years at least. He got more votes, 74 million, than he did the first time. Of course biden got 20+ million fake ballots at least.

Maybe Cucknadians are different tho. Maybe they want Trudeau-lite. Fuck it then, just vote Trudeau. At least he has experience.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: DKG on September 10, 2023, 03:37:21 PM
Quote from: Lokmar on September 09, 2023, 08:24:51 PMIn America for the last 30 years, CONservatives have constantly been looking for excuses why they kept on losing. The reality was, none of our candidates had any real strong moral and national convictions. THATS why they kept losing.

W Bush was pretty milque toast and barely won. oniggrah wasnt exactly middle of the road and he DAMN WELL wasnt the 2nd time. Of course there was cheating during his 2nd election which helped move him over the finish line. Romney just didnt generate enthusiasm because he's softer than baby shit.

Juan McStain lost because everyone knew his "maverick" bullshit to mean he was for illegal immigration and a whole hoast of other liberal bullshit and at the same time, he wanted to occupy the whole fucking planet. Romney was a fucking straight up libtard. I mean the guy implemented  obama care in Taxachusetts. Trump was the most extreme candidate the GOP has ran in the last 100 years at least. He got more votes, 74 million, than he did the first time. Of course biden got 20+ million fake ballots at least.

Maybe Cucknadians are different tho. Maybe they want Trudeau-lite. Fuck it then, just vote Trudeau. At least he has experience.
Justin Trudeau is a very unpopular pm. Something like eighty percent of Canadians want new federal leadership. Pierre Pollivere's two predecessor's were very weak leaders. If an election were held today, Pierre Pollivere would be pm with a majority.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Thiel on September 13, 2023, 09:59:05 PM
338Canada.com has the Conservatives winning 178 seats if an election were held today. Remember that is an aggregate of surveys over the past month. Trudeau's continue to plummet.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Brent on September 30, 2023, 10:36:28 PM
For the first time in my life, I will vote for the Conservatives in the next election. I won't be in Canada, but I will go to the Canadian embassy in Panama to vote for Pierre Pollivere.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: JOE on October 02, 2023, 06:47:09 PM
Quote from: Herman on September 08, 2023, 09:38:07 PMPollivere said, "after eight years of Liberal government, Canadians are smarting from soaring inflation, the high cost of everything and a divisiveness within our nation that's fuelled by self-appointed activists telling us how to live our lives."

As a traditionally Liberal party supporter I agree with you Herman. Its time for the Liberals and Trudeau to go. Their policies have become way out of whack with the nation.

And yes...getta immigration policy which makes sense. The current state of the economy cannot justify this much of an influx if new immigrants

Big problem with the Liberals is that Jagmeet Singh appears to be runnin the show. In a larger measure getting rid of this edition would be getting rid of Singh too.

He's reminiscent of that Bearded Rasputin character whos got an unhealthy influence on the government
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: JOE on October 02, 2023, 06:50:18 PM
We need to take turns

The Tories had 10 years

And the Liberals had their 10

There should be a rotation of power every now and then to keep the wheels of democracy fresh to prevent them from rusting so the damn machine can keep on movin
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Shen Li on October 02, 2023, 07:37:29 PM
Quote from: JOE on October 02, 2023, 06:50:18 PMWe need to take turns

The Tories had 10 years

And the Liberals had their 10

There should be a rotation of power every now and then to keep the wheels of democracy fresh to prevent them from rusting so the damn machine can keep on movin
All the "choices" in Canada suck because none of them offer the people a real alternative.

The PAP has been the governing party in Singapore since it was kicked out of Malaysia. They are not owned by woke money like your country's parties are and they have done an excellent job of serving Singaporeans.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: JOE on October 04, 2023, 12:26:17 PM
Quote from: Shen Li on October 02, 2023, 07:37:29 PMAll the "choices" in Canada suck because none of them offer the people a real alternative.

The PAP has been the governing party in Singapore since it was kicked out of Malaysia. They are not owned by woke money like your country's parties are and they have done an excellent job of serving Singaporeans.

I hear the Malaysians don't like the Chinese.

Muslims too.

Islam and China in a mix are like pouring water and oil together in boiling pot.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Oerdin on October 04, 2023, 08:09:30 PM
Quote from: Brent on September 30, 2023, 10:36:28 PMFor the first time in my life, I will vote for the Conservatives in the next election. I won't be in Canada, but I will go to the Canadian embassy in Panama to vote for Pierre Pollivere.

What are you doing on Panama?
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Shen Li on October 04, 2023, 08:13:03 PM
Quote from: JOE on October 04, 2023, 12:26:17 PMI hear the Malaysians don't like the Chinese.

Muslims too.

Islam and China in a mix are like pouring water and oil together in boiling pot.
Malaysian Muslims are jealous of Chinese.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Thiel on October 10, 2023, 10:34:13 PM
Trudeau has just made it mandatory for online streaming services whose business is above $10 million to formally register with the government for "regulatory controls."

What sort of controls would those be? We don't know. Would they move in the future to lower the $10 million floor? We don't know.

It might depend on how the government feels their control is working out.

Does Trudeau defend free speech? He has said: "We will always defend freedom of expression, but everyone must act respectfully toward others and not try to needlessly or arbitrarily hurt someone we share this planet and society with."

So we are back to feelings over rights again. That is a weak defence of free speech, leaving it to him to determine what is acceptable.

The messy, sometimes hurtful back and forth in public debate is vital.

I would rather have my feelings hurt than to have the government act against the person who hurt them.


Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre said "Conservatives will repeal Trudeau's censorship, and restore freedom of expression for one and all."
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: DKG on October 17, 2023, 06:22:03 AM
Trudeau's Liberals could lose as many as twenty one rural seats to the Concservatives on the gun buy back program alone.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on October 17, 2023, 10:12:44 PM
Pierre Pollivere shows how to handle prog media while eating an apple.
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1714290806335689210?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1714290806335689210%7Ctwgr%5Eb526b11456f936cec90417735edd6c8ecbec6351%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theblaze.com%2Fnews%2Fcanadian-conservative-leader-casually-wrecks-reporters-line-of-attack-simply-by-asking-what-he-means
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: DKG on October 18, 2023, 05:45:00 AM
Quote from: Herman on October 17, 2023, 10:12:44 PMPierre Pollivere shows how to handle prog media while eating an apple.
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1714290806335689210?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1714290806335689210%7Ctwgr%5Eb526b11456f936cec90417735edd6c8ecbec6351%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theblaze.com%2Fnews%2Fcanadian-conservative-leader-casually-wrecks-reporters-line-of-attack-simply-by-asking-what-he-means
Trudeau and the Liberal friendly media haven't been susccessful in trying to negatively label PP. He is too smart to let anybody do that.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Thiel on November 06, 2023, 06:28:33 PM
I can't recall the source, but I saw a favourability rating for Trudeau and Pollivere. Trudeau now has a -24 favourability rating while Pollivere is +8.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on November 29, 2023, 11:13:01 PM
Gaddamn that old Pollivere is good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9hB0LJ-Dlo
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: DKG on November 30, 2023, 10:23:30 AM
Quote from: Herman on November 29, 2023, 11:13:01 PMGaddamn that old Pollivere is good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9hB0LJ-Dlo
I saw that. That was savage.

He is no Andrew Scheer or Erin O'Foole. This guy is a real leader with fire in his belly. He can out campaign Trudeau any day of the week.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Oerdin on December 01, 2023, 08:07:10 PM
Quote from: Herman on November 29, 2023, 11:13:01 PMGaddamn that old Pollivere is good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9hB0LJ-Dlo

You can really see the dishonestybandblies out of that supposed "journalist".
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on December 01, 2023, 09:35:15 PM
Quote from: Oerdin on December 01, 2023, 08:07:10 PMYou can really see the dishonestybandblies out of that supposed "journalist".
And on former leaders of that party, it might have worked. Not on old Pollivere. They call him the pitbull of parliament for a reason.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: DKG on December 03, 2023, 12:15:21 PM
Pierre Pollivere is no Trump or Geert Wilders type populist.

The Liberals have been working to draw a parallel between Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre and former U.S. President Donald Trump's "MAGA" populist politics, to limited effect.

The talk of Pierre Poilievre being a populist is really exaggerated and overblown. I think he's moderately conservative. He just happens to be more aggressive in the way that he communicates but there's nothing out of the ordinary about Poilievre's political views. They're all recognizably conservative within a Canadian context.

Poilievre isn't an all-out populist, because this is more of an anti-incumbent moment than a populist moment. Simply holding Liberal feet to the fire, a job Poilievre relishes, could be enough to win an election.

A general trend towards stability during the COVID-19 pandemic, which benefited the incumbent governments in most western countries, has seen a stark reversal while most of the world confronts high inflation that has squeezed household budgets.

A recent poll by Ipsos found that three in four Canadians want Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to step down, while his Liberal party trails Poilievre's Conservatives badly in the polls.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: JOE on December 08, 2023, 01:03:49 PM
While I certainly agree that Canada needs a new leader & direction & that Trudeau should step down, Im not enthusiastic about Pollivere either.

Something about that guy bugs me.

If its a conservative id prefer a more mature, experienced and more stable personality.

The Conservatives seem to be making the same mistake the Liberals have. They want somebody telegenic charismatic. Essentially they want their own version if Trudeau.

Im leaning none of the above next election
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: TheProwler on December 08, 2023, 06:04:48 PM
Quote from: JOE on December 08, 2023, 01:03:49 PMWhile I certainly agree that Canada needs a new leader & direction & that Trudeau should step down, Im not enthusiastic about Pollivere either.

Something about that guy bugs me.

If its a conservative id prefer a more mature, experienced and more stable personality.

The Conservatives seem to be making the same mistake the Liberals have. They want somebody telegenic charismatic. Essentially they want their own version if Trudeau.

Im leaning none of the above next election

All about the person, and not the policy.

You should not be allowed to vote, Senile Joe.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on December 08, 2023, 09:51:08 PM
Quote from: TheProwler on December 08, 2023, 06:04:48 PMAll about the person, and not the policy.

You should not be allowed to vote, Senile Joe.
Anybody who votes that way should not be allowed to vote.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Thiel on December 27, 2023, 08:40:54 PM
I saw Trudeau's Christmas day interview online.

When it comes to understanding his opposition, Justin Trudeau has revealed he holds a cartoon caricature view of the Conservative Party. That's one of the main takeaways from Trudeau's year-end conversation with his longtime friend and former radio host Terry DiMonte.

Trudeau showed his weakness in how he views Pierre Poilievre and the Conservatives. He describes them as angry, as conniving, as a dark force on the political landscape.

When he wasn't comparing them to Donald Trump with his free use of "MAGA Conservatives" he was making claims that simply aren't based in reality.

"The Conservatives will bring us back to the 50s. Bring us back to drill, baby, drill, ignore climate change, bring us back to father is the head of the household and women don't get abortions unless they have a note from their husband," Trudeau said.

You can love Poilievre and the Conservatives or hate them, but your viewpoint on who they are should be based on facts.


Several times, Trudeau accused the Conservatives of importing political tactics from the United States. He also said the Conservatives like to make people angry and gun up the mob to play on fear and emotions as a way to mobilize them.

"The simplification and the dumbing down of politics to emotional knee jerk reactions is good to mobilize and get people outraged," Trudeau said while also stating that this kind of tactic doesn't help build consensus.

What's interesting about all of this is that Trudeau is dumbing down the political discussion about his opponents. He isn't being honest about what the Conservatives believe or what they are proposing, he is inventing his own warped image of them, projecting other ideas onto them to demonize them so that he can whip up his own base.

n some ways, this is hardly surprising, it's what politicians do, and Trudeau has made clear that he intends on running against Donald Trump instead of Pierre Poilievre. In 2024, Trudeau will try to scare Canadians into believing that if he isn't left in charge, Trump will effectively be running Canada after the next election.

Yet, it is surprising that Trudeau is going down this path because earlier in the interview, he acknowledged that it didn't work for the Liberals in the past.

"Liberals made a huge mistake in the years following the 2006 loss to Stephen Harper, in that so many liberals didn't like him so viscerally that it clouded their judgment in a whole bunch of different ways," Trudeau said.

Trudeau said that most Canadians didn't see Harper as a bad person, but Liberals were running around screaming that he was.  The Liberal Party of 2006-2009 said that Harper was Bush's puppet even though, governance wise they weren't even similar.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Thiel on December 28, 2023, 08:55:10 PM
In a new 15-minute video posted to 'X' on Wednesday, Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre argues Canada is facing a potential debt bomb with catastrophic economic and social consequences for Canadians.

In the new video, Poilievre describes Canada's total combined debt of $10.2 trillion — the sum of all household, corporate and government debt, or $255,000 per person and almost $620,000 per household — as more than 3.5 times the size of Canada's Gross Domestic Product.

He says that's higher than in the U.S. during the subprime mortgage housing crisis that led to the 2008 global economic crash, higher than during Greece's debt crisis in 2009 and higher than 45 of the 48 biggest debt crises globally in the last century.

https://twitter.com/PierrePoilievre/status/1740055188621181218?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1740055188621181218%7Ctwgr%5Ebb9839c15c7c80978640f6732d89b54341587de6%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftorontosun.com%2Fopinion%2Fcolumnists%2Fgoldstein-poilievre-says-canada-faces-a-debt-bomb-in-new-video
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on December 30, 2023, 01:16:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvsCYQaqJzQ
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Oerdin on December 30, 2023, 08:40:44 PM
Just how conservative is PP?
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Shen Li on December 30, 2023, 09:12:59 PM
Quote from: Oerdin on December 30, 2023, 08:40:44 PMJust how conservative is PP?
Fiscally, he is moderately conservative.

Everything else is on an issue by issue basis. He wants to defund and possibly privatize the CBC. He won't pull Canada out of the destructive Paris Accord, but his first bill will be to repeal the carbon tax. YAY!!

He won't touch immigration. Unsustainable immigration is here to stay no matter who wins the next election. On social issues like tampons in men's rooms in federal buildings, he hasn't said much or I'm unaware of where he stands.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Oerdin on December 30, 2023, 10:06:17 PM
All it sounds like is he will stop making it worse but won't bother to fix anything.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on December 30, 2023, 10:10:34 PM
Quote from: Shen Li on December 30, 2023, 09:12:59 PMFiscally, he is moderately conservative.

Everything else is on an issue by issue basis. He wants to defund and possibly privatize the CBC. He won't pull Canada out of the destructive Paris Accord, but his first bill will be to repeal the carbon tax. YAY!!

He won't touch immigration. Unsustainable immigration is here to stay no matter who wins the next election. On social issues like tampons in men's rooms in federal buildings, he hasn't said much or I'm unaware of where he stands.
I don't know where you are getting your information. He criticized Justine for wasting our money on the tampons for guys bullshit. He has been critical of Justine for allowing illegals travelling through the US to enter illegally at the Roxham Road entrance. Pollivere will lower immigration levels, but he will not make it a campaign issue.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on December 30, 2023, 10:24:41 PM
Unless there is a revolt in the Liberal Party, Justine will lead them into the next election. He wants to frame the next election that he aint running on his record against Pollivere. He is calling Pollivere a MAGA conservative with dangerous ideas that he will protect us from.

I like a lot of what old Pollivere wants to do. But, I know he aint no populist like Trump, the prime minister of Italy or Geert Wilders in Holland. He is the type of leader the owner of this forum likes. Smart economic management and controlled spending.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Shen Li on December 31, 2023, 01:01:13 AM
Quote from: Herman on December 30, 2023, 10:10:34 PMI don't know where you are getting your information. He criticized Justine for wasting our money on the tampons for guys bullshit. He has been critical of Justine for allowing illegals travelling through the US to enter illegally at the Roxham Road entrance. Pollivere will lower immigration levels, but he will not make it a campaign issue.
I never saw that or read it.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: DKG on December 31, 2023, 12:08:13 PM
Quote from: Oerdin on December 30, 2023, 08:40:44 PMJust how conservative is PP?
When the former Liberal-lite leader was condemning the anti-mandate protests in Ottawa, Pierre Pollivere was one of the few voices in parliament saying they were peaceful and their demands reasonable.

His platform is based around promoting a version of freedom that states that governments should play less of a role in the lives of citizens. His platform also highlights the worsening inflation crisis, and says that sharply reducing government spending will help solve the issue.

Energy
Poilievre has promised to cancel Ottawa's carbon price on consumer goods and build more pipelines. His platform states that one of the best ways Canada could reduce global emissions is build more LNG export facilities and pipelines to get natural gas to markets that currently rely on coal for electricity.

Government budgets
He promised to enact a "Pay-As-You-Go Law" that would cap federal spending at its budgeted amount and force it to find savings when something new is added. Poilievre says emergencies such as natural disasters and pandemics would be exempt from his rule, but new spending projects would require officials to look at existing budgets and to find what can be cut or changed to curb spending.

Freedom of expression
Poilievre said a government led by him would promote free speech on university campuses by withholding federal funding to institutions that don't commit to doing so. He also promises to appoint a former judge as a "free speech guardian" to probe any alleged violations.

Bank of Canada
Poilievre pledged to adopt a bill first introduced by former Conservative leader Andrew Scheer, who helped with his campaign, that would subject the central bank to the federal auditor general. He also received intense criticism for a promise to fire Tiff Macklem as the Bank of Canada governor over the country's high rate of inflation. Poilievre also promised to ban the central bank's proposed digital currency, although early in the campaign he also pledged that a Poilievre government would make it easier for Canadians to use cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin.

Housing
Poilievre said he'd force cities such as Toronto and Vancouver to increase new home building by 15 per cent, under threat of losing federal funding, in an effort to bring down housing prices. He also promised a slate of other measures, including paying an extra $10,000 to municipalities for every new home that is built, and converting federal properties into affordable housing. He would remove federal green requirements that discourage new housing development.

Immigration
He promised to incentivize provincial governments to ensure licensing bodies rule on newcomers' applications within 60 days. Poilievre also said he would provide more study loans to those immigrating to Canada who need extra training to meet licensing requirements. This country has too many doctor and engineer immigrants working as security guards. He has promised to speed up decisions and clear the backlog of refugee claimants. He would also enforce the agreement with the US that immediately sends refugee claimants back to the country they last came from if they have an existing refugee claim there. Both Biden and Trudeau have ignored this agreement.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Oerdin on December 31, 2023, 02:46:08 PM
He sounds like a moderate who will make slight changes for the better, block additional stupidity, but won't do the massive roll back Canada needs to actually spark growth and innovation again.  Basically, just a controlled decline instead of Tru-rump's nose dive into 3rd world status.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Brent on December 31, 2023, 05:31:58 PM
There is no bigger issue than Canada's out of control immigration levels. It is far bigger than  Trudeau's beloved carbon tax. It affects everything from health care to housing to education. No party in parliament will do what needs to be done and support a moratorium on immigration.

Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: DKG on January 01, 2024, 02:43:35 PM
Quote from: Oerdin on December 31, 2023, 02:46:08 PMHe sounds like a moderate who will make slight changes for the better, block additional stupidity, but won't do the massive roll back Canada needs to actually spark growth and innovation again.  Basically, just a controlled decline instead of Tru-rump's nose dive into 3rd world status.
I disagree. As I was discussing with Lokmar in another thread, the pm we had before Trudeau was Justin's polar opposite. Stephen Harper is a brilliant economist. Under his prudent watch, we had low taxes, low inflation and a richer middle class than the US.

Pierre Pollivere is back to the future. Stephen Harper is still active behind the scenes.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Brent on January 02, 2024, 12:15:21 PM
Quote from: DKG on January 01, 2024, 02:43:35 PMI disagree. As I was discussing with Lokmar in another thread, the pm we had before Trudeau was Justin's polar opposite. Stephen Harper is a brilliant economist. Under his prudent watch, we had low taxes, low inflation and a richer middle class than the US.

Pierre Pollivere is back to the future. Stephen Harper is still active behind the scenes.
We accepted fewer immigrants under Harper, but we stiil accepted too many.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: DKG on January 03, 2024, 09:40:59 AM
Quote from: Brent on January 02, 2024, 12:15:21 PMWe accepted fewer immigrants under Harper, but we stiil accepted too many.
Annual intake will drop under PP. But, they will be quiet about it.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Brent on January 21, 2024, 07:20:15 PM
A quote from Pierre Pillivere.

"So the Davos billionaires board their private jets after lecturing the world's working people about heating their homes and driving to work.

I will ban all my ministers from any involvement in the World Economic Forum."

This guy understands the working classes. This is the first time in my life I have given a compliment to a Conservative politician.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Thiel on January 25, 2024, 08:26:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhifG1BndHs
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Thiel on February 21, 2024, 08:34:35 PM
Pierre Poilievre said Wednesday his party is vehemently opposed to the government's forthcoming online harms legislation, a bill designed to combat hate speech, terrorist content and some violent material on the internet.

Saying he won't accept "Justin Trudeau's woke authoritarian agenda," Poilievre said the primJustin Trudeau said anyone who criticized him during the pandemic was engaging in hate speeche minister and his government shouldn't be deciding what constitutes "hate speech" online and called the legislation an "attack on freedom of expression."

Justin Trudeau said anyone who criticized him during the pandemic was engaging in hate speech.  Trudeau's COVID-era comment that trucker convoy protesters were "a small fringe minority" who were "holding unacceptable views."

Hate speech in Canada is any speech that Justin Trudeau hates.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Brent on March 09, 2024, 04:49:57 PM
Pierre Pollivere and the Conservatives have an almost twenty point lead over Trudeau in the latest Nanos poll.

Conservatives-42.8%
Liberals- 23.3%
NDP-21.4%
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Bradley on March 09, 2024, 05:50:24 PM
are you gonna let Canada continue moving in the direction it has been? Further laws, restrictions, hate speech being made illegal, etc?
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Thiel on March 09, 2024, 06:24:35 PM
Quote from: Bradley on March 09, 2024, 05:50:24 PMare you gonna let Canada continue moving in the direction it has been? Further laws, restrictions, hate speech being made illegal, etc?
You cannot access a lot of news in Canada thanks to Trudeau's thought police laws.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Bradley on March 09, 2024, 06:50:48 PM
Damn that really sucks having to use a VPN just to see media that's critical of one's government.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on March 09, 2024, 08:55:39 PM
Quote from: Bradley on March 09, 2024, 06:50:48 PMDamn that really sucks having to use a VPN just to see media that's critical of one's government.
That and poverty are life under Justine.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on March 09, 2024, 09:34:54 PM
Quote from: Brent on March 09, 2024, 04:49:57 PMPierre Pollivere and the Conservatives have an almost twenty point lead over Trudeau in the latest Nanos poll.

Conservatives-42.8%
Liberals- 23.3%
NDP-21.4%
Glo bull did a poll about a month ago showing Pollivere's lead was shrinking. I knew that was either a blip or bullshit.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: DKG on March 10, 2024, 07:58:53 AM
Quote from: Herman on March 09, 2024, 09:34:54 PMGlo bull did a poll about a month ago showing Pollivere's lead was shrinking. I knew that was either a blip or bullshit.
There has been that new scandal and cover up over the Chinese infiltration of the Winnipeg mint. Wait until digest that and see how it affects his disappearing popularity.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Oerdin on March 10, 2024, 02:03:39 PM
Quote from: Brent on March 09, 2024, 04:49:57 PMPierre Pollivere and the Conservatives have an almost twenty point lead over Trudeau in the latest Nanos poll.

Conservatives-42.8%
Liberals- 23.3%
NDP-21.4%

That means Tru-dump won't want to call and election any time soon.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Lokmar on March 10, 2024, 03:06:01 PM
political assassinations happen when the jack boots get put on. Just sayin!
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Brent on March 10, 2024, 06:53:51 PM
Quote from: Oerdin on March 10, 2024, 02:03:39 PMThat means Tru-dump won't want to call and election any time soon.
He has a minority government. His coalition partner, the NDP must approve of all his scandals and abuse of power because they will not withdraw support and force and election before September 2025 when we have to have an election.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on March 22, 2024, 01:52:41 AM
Old Pollivere has a quick response for any prog smartass.

"a clip posted by CBC's 22 Minutes in which one of their comedians cornered Conservative Party Leader Pierre Poilievre at a rally and asked him "could we save money by sinking P.E.I. into the sea?" Poilievre replied "I think we could save money by spending a billion less on terrible comedians."
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on May 01, 2024, 11:46:00 PM
Federal Voting Intentions: April 2024


https://leger360.com/federal-voting-intentions-april-2024/
Pierre Poilievre's Conservative Party remains in the lead, 21 points ahead of Justin Trudeau's Liberal Party. If a federal election were to be held today, 44% of Canadians would vote for the Conservative Party of Canada, while 23% would vote for Justin Trudeau's Liberal Party. Since last month, the Liberal Party has experienced a decline of three percentage points, while the Conservative Party has gained two points.

One-third of Canadians think Pierre Poilievre is the leader who would make the best Prime Minister among the federal party leaders (32%), ahead of Justin Trudeau (16%) and Jagmeet Singh (11%). Pierre Poilievre has experienced an increase of three points compared to last month.

Almost seven out of ten Canadians (69%) are dissatisfied with Trudeau's government, compared to only one-quarter (25%) who are satisfied. The proportion of Canadians who say they are very dissatisfied has jumped by 6 percentage points, going from 40% in March to 46% in April.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: DKG on May 30, 2024, 07:33:09 PM
This is huge. Quebec was the last bastion of Trudeau support. It is over for him and the Liberals in the next election.

Poll finds Poilievre's Conservatives ahead of Liberals in Quebec
Leger poll also finds Tories tied with Bloc in terms of popular support

Pierre Poilievre's Conservatives are tied for first place among voters in Quebec and ahead of Justin Trudeau's Liberals?

Ben voyons donc!

It may sound impossible, but the latest Leger poll for Postmedia not only gives Poilievre's Conservatives a massive lead nationally, but a position they haven't held in Quebec in decades. According to Leger, the most accurate pollster in the last two elections, the Conservatives and Bloc Quebecois are tied at 29% voter support in Quebec with the Liberals behind at 26%.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOw2b-sX0AE3SZp?format=png&name=small)
In the last federal election, the Conservatives took just 19% of the vote and 10 seats; that's the same number of seats they took in 2006 with 25% of the vote. The Conservative support is most often concentrated in the Quebec City region and places like the Saguenay, but could see them land extra seats if they were to land 29% support and come out ahead of the Liberals.

By comparison, the Liberals took about 34% of the vote in Quebec in the last election and took 35 seats.

Nationally, the Leger poll puts the Conservatives at 42% support to 23% for the Liberals and 18% for the NDP. The Conservatives lead in this poll among men and women, in every age bracket and among rural, suburban and even urban voters.
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/poilievres-conservatives-ahead-of-the-liberals-in-quebec

Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on June 20, 2024, 10:40:19 PM
I like this new Conservative ad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5jOBdge8yY
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: JOE on June 21, 2024, 12:46:34 AM
Quote from: DKG on May 30, 2024, 07:33:09 PMNationally, the Leger poll puts the Conservatives at 42% support to 23% for the Liberals and 18% for the NDP. The Conservatives lead in this poll among men and women, in every age bracket and among rural, suburban and even urban voters.
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/poilievres-conservatives-ahead-of-the-liberals-in-quebec

...looks like the Liberals are in bad shape.... DKG!

Oh well, serves 'em right. Even tho I usu vote Liberal, I gotta admit, they've run a real shit show this time.

Jagmeet Singh is their Rasputin like Power Broker calling all the shots.

Sad ta see, but that's why the need to get the boot - to dismantle that NDP Liberal coalition. It's been bad for the Liberal Party because they moved to far left to satsify their coaltion partner, the NDP.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on July 11, 2024, 09:00:23 PM
Will you defend freedom? Or do you want Trudeau and his ivory tower elites to keep expanding government control?

Freedoms are under attack in Canada after 9 years of Trudeau. Justine wants to control the information you see and hear. Unacceptable.

These are your two options.

Pierre Poilievre will work hard to make Canada the freest country on earth.

Freedom of speech, freedom to control what you see on the internet, and freedom to hold your own views are all suffering under Trudeau's radical agenda.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on September 07, 2024, 09:15:31 PM
Pitbull Pollivere does it to another prog media mutt.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wxM9O-14O3I
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on September 10, 2024, 09:26:12 PM
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Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on September 10, 2024, 09:34:28 PM
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Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Oerdin on September 11, 2024, 10:57:04 PM
When are you guys going to get rid of that piece of shit?
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 12, 2024, 11:56:36 AM
Maybe the Canadian civil war will break out before the American one.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Brent on September 14, 2024, 01:19:54 PM
Pierre Poiliever has promised to limit immigration to ensure population growth remains below the growth in housing construction.

I was reluctant to vote Conservative before, but now that we finally have a national leader vowing to do something about the immigration mess Trudeau created, I am enthusiastically voting Tory next year.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Berry Sweet on September 15, 2024, 07:54:24 PM
I'm voting for Pierre in the next federal election.

BC Provincial elections is this October.  I will be voting for the Cons.

I've had enough of this Liberal nonsense.  The only people who are voting Liberals are the ones who have something to hide, or want to continue living a blind life of destruction to themselves.  Imagine voting in a government just because you want the tax payers to foot the bill to have your penis chopped off.  They should pay for it themselves.  Those surgeries aren't cheap and most docs have no clue what they are doing...people are dying from these surgeries gone wrong.  Get a loan and pay for your self mutilation with your own funds.

I'm tired of having to feel sorry some complete retards.  The Crayola cartel has destroyed everything LGBT has fought for over the years.  Majority of those people in today's sense, are the losers that didn't fit in, in middle or high school.  They didn't even try.  They just sat around being an imbecile.  That's no one else's fault but theirs.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Thiel on September 15, 2024, 08:00:26 PM
Quote from: Berry Sweet on September 15, 2024, 07:54:24 PMI'm voting for Pierre in the next federal election.

BC Provincial elections is this October.  I will be voting for the Cons.

I've had enough of this Liberal nonsense.  The only people who are voting Liberals are the ones who have something to hide, or want to continue living a blind life of destruction to themselves.  Imagine voting in a government just because you want the tax payers to foot the bill to have your penis chopped off.  They should pay for it themselves.  Those surgeries aren't cheap and most docs have no clue what they are doing...people are dying from these surgeries gone wrong.  Get a loan and pay for your self mutilation with your own funds.

I'm tired of having to feel sorry some complete retards.  The Crayola cartel has destroyed everything LGBT has fought for over the years.  Majority of those people in today's sense, are the losers that didn't fit in, in middle or high school.  They didn't even try.  They just sat around being an imbecile.  That's no one else's fault but theirs.
You will have to wait a year to fire the Liberals. They know they will lose, so they will delay the inevitable.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Shen Li on September 16, 2024, 12:12:46 AM
Quote from: Berry Sweet on September 15, 2024, 07:54:24 PMI'm voting for Pierre in the next federal election.

BC Provincial elections is this October.  I will be voting for the Cons.

I've had enough of this Liberal nonsense.  The only people who are voting Liberals are the ones who have something to hide, or want to continue living a blind life of destruction to themselves.  Imagine voting in a government just because you want the tax payers to foot the bill to have your penis chopped off.  They should pay for it themselves.  Those surgeries aren't cheap and most docs have no clue what they are doing...people are dying from these surgeries gone wrong.  Get a loan and pay for your self mutilation with your own funds.

I'm tired of having to feel sorry some complete retards.  The Crayola cartel has destroyed everything LGBT has fought for over the years.  Majority of those people in today's sense, are the losers that didn't fit in, in middle or high school.  They didn't even try.  They just sat around being an imbecile.  That's no one else's fault but theirs.
I read BC is having an election soon. Go any party except the NDP.

I am going to the Canadian embassy to vote in next year's federal election. I too want to fire True Dope.

The crayola cartel, that is accurate and funny as fuck. The tranny nonsense is nauseating. I am not pretending a man is a woman and I don't want to see biological males next to me in restrooms.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Berry Sweet on September 16, 2024, 12:25:52 AM
These men need to stop being freaks.  They dont even try to pass as a woman.

It's completely disrespectful to those who are actually suffering from the disorder.  Those people who have trans'd to the other sex, have actually taken the time to look and act the part...and they pass.  I respect those people trying to live with the disorder.  But for those who are doing it for attention, they can fuck right off.  They have no idea how much this is gonna come back to bite them in the ass.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Shen Li on September 16, 2024, 12:32:57 AM
Quote from: Berry Sweet on September 16, 2024, 12:25:52 AMThese men need to stop being freaks.  They dont even try to pass as a woman.

It's completely disrespectful to those who are actually suffering from the disorder.  Those people who have trans'd to the other sex, have actually taken the time to look and act the part...and they pass.  I respect those people trying to live with the disorder.  But for those who are doing it for attention, they can fuck right off.  They have no idea how much this is gonna come back to bite them in the ass.
I don't care what they do. However, absolutely no surgeries or hormone blockers for children.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on September 18, 2024, 11:07:51 PM
This fucker is good.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2anuzlNeGpQ
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Thiel on September 24, 2024, 06:31:02 PM
Pierre Poilievre banned Conservative MP's from taking interviews with CTV or holding any meetings with executives, lobbyists, or any other representatives of Bell Media after CTV apologized for deceptively editing clips of the Conserative leader.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on September 24, 2024, 09:24:10 PM
Bell Media is a woke corporation and it's media arm, CTV is pure prog propaganda. The old lady and I are done with CTV.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Thiel on September 25, 2024, 05:21:44 PM
Quote from: Herman on September 24, 2024, 09:24:10 PMBell Media is a woke corporation and it's media arm, CTV is pure prog propaganda. The old lady and I are done with CTV.
When I lived in Canada, I only watched their business news.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on October 28, 2024, 09:09:50 PM
A Conservative government will axe the sales tax on new homes sold for less than $1 million. This could save Canadians up to fifty grand.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: DKG on December 03, 2024, 07:29:54 PM
The legacy media cannot get Polilivere.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5et5WbXjZhM
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on December 03, 2024, 10:00:59 PM
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Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on December 23, 2024, 09:24:36 PM
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Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on January 03, 2025, 07:35:31 PM
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Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on January 03, 2025, 09:54:37 PM
Quote from: Herman on January 03, 2025, 07:35:31 PM(https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/472713523_924809963166216_3311275753772394576_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_p526x296_tt6&_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=isb8WT9acMgQ7kNvgEvLkLu&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-yyz1-1.xx&_nc_gid=AWWZxK4fOGfHlTRUOR2uxed&oh=00_AYCbxXXESZLucTJTBC5cmI2vI6sABHtM3jgSKr16kan8pA&oe=677E46BE)

15 minutes?  15 seconds might still be too much for little Trudy.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Shen Li on January 03, 2025, 10:00:43 PM
Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on January 03, 2025, 09:54:37 PM15 minutes?  15 seconds might still be too much for little Trudy.
A former federal cabinet minister once remarked that True Dope has the political depth of a finger bowl.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on January 03, 2025, 10:02:20 PM
Quote from: Shen Li on January 03, 2025, 10:00:43 PMA former federal cabinet minister once remarked that True Dope has the political depth of a finger bowl.

Oh behalf of all finger bowls, I say 'Ouuuuuuuuchhhhh!'.  :s_laugh:
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on January 06, 2025, 10:43:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EP559AYFt_A
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on January 06, 2025, 10:45:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcDNWxmO8QA
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on January 19, 2025, 07:11:56 PM
He has been an effective opposition leader. One of the best in a long time.
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Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on January 22, 2025, 10:46:08 PM
A good idea. Justine grew the federal civil service, but nobody but nobody but the those civil servants he hired has benefitted.
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Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on January 24, 2025, 09:07:40 PM
Under Justine, the federal government added over 110,000 new bureaucrats to its workforce—an utterly unsustainable and costly expansion. This aint good for the us.

Shrinking the federal bureaucracy through attrition would be a good start, but the next prime minister should go further, taking inspiration from what Jean Chrétien and Paul Martin accomplished in the 1990s. Ottawa's entire role must be reconsidered.

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Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on January 24, 2025, 09:08:48 PM
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Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on January 25, 2025, 08:33:41 PM
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Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on January 28, 2025, 10:05:13 PM
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Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on February 01, 2025, 08:19:54 PM
I hope old Pierre sells the CBC.
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Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on February 03, 2025, 09:01:05 PM
A real leader.
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Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on February 20, 2025, 09:32:19 PM
If you want ALL carbon taxes scrapped, it's important to get that into platforms before the ink dries.

Ending one carbon tax isn't enough.

Liberal leadership front-runner Mark Carney says he will end the consumer carbon tax. But he is going to keep the hidden carbon tax the government hammers businesses with. And when the government hammers businesses with carbon taxes, those businesses pass those carbon tax costs on to YOU through higher prices.

Conservative Party Leader Pierre Poilievre has shown leadership fighting the carbon tax. Poilievre deserves credit for that.

But there's already industry lobbyists, green activists, academics and media pundits pressuring Poilievre to keep the government's hidden industrial carbon tax.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: JOE on February 22, 2025, 01:58:02 PM
The Liberals have had 10 years to run Canada so perhaps it's time to give Conservatives the chance.

However if he gets in I hope Poilivere stands up for Canada and has it's best interests at heart. Don't sell us out to the US & continue Stephen Harper's initiative to strengthen ties with Europe.

The best conservative Prime Ministers Canada has ever had were pro Canadian & staunchly anti American

Ie Sir John A McDonald & John Diefenbaker
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Brent on February 22, 2025, 02:28:22 PM
All the Liberals have to do is negotiate a deal to strengthen border security and there are no tariffs. Instead of doing that they want a trade war.  :crazy:
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: JOE on February 22, 2025, 05:43:14 PM
Quote from: Brent on February 22, 2025, 02:28:22 PMAll the Liberals have to do is negotiate a deal to strengthen border security and there are no tariffs. Instead of doing that they want a trade war.  :crazy:

I don't think so avatar_Brent Brent.

Even if Poilivere becomes PM he will have to stand firm against Trump.

I hope for our sake that PM Poilivere is as tough and strong as the pit bull image he likes to project.

Liberal or Conservative I just want the next PM to stand up for Canada & prevent it from being swallowed up by the US.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: JOE on February 22, 2025, 05:44:25 PM
I'm not pro conservative nor pro liberal party really.

Just pro Canada
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Herman on March 05, 2025, 10:06:02 PM
This was written by Tom Harris, Executive Director of International Climate Science Coalition – Canada.

The Conservative Party of Canada's (CPC) "Axe the Tax" campaign has succeeded beyond their wildest dreams, turning millions of Canadians against the carbon tax.

But scrapping the carbon tax alone is not enough. Canada must break free from net-zero policies. As political landscapes shift, so too must strategies. "Axe the Tax" no longer cuts it.

Pierre Poilievre and the CPC must offer Canadians a climate policy that benefits, not burdens, our nation. The party must now shift focus to "No net-zero!" to save us from a multi-trillion-dollar catastrophe that will do virtually nothing to affect global emissions, let alone climate.

Net-zero is marketed as a reasonable goal, but in reality, it is all pain and no gain. It demands that greenhouse gas emissions equal removals. Despite Canada already generating 82% of its electricity without carbon dioxide emissions, the federal government still requires net-zero in the power sector by 2035. This target is economically reckless and scientifically meaningless.

Canada's net-zero strategy has targeted the oil and gas sector, crippled investment, driven up energy costs, and stifled job growth.

European nations, having aggressively pursued green energy, offer a sobering warning. Their rising costs, increasing taxes, ballooning subsidies, mounting debt, and surging inflation have fueled deindustrialization, forcing jobs overseas as European manufacturing becomes uncompetitive.

The financial burden of net-zero is staggering. Canada's 2022 capital commitment to achieve net-zero by 2050 is estimated at $3.6 trillion over 28 years, or $90,000 per Canadian, on top of the existing $30,000 per person national debt. Now that the U.S. has exited the UN Paris Agreement, Canada must rethink its approach to keep businesses competitive. Otherwise, younger generations will inherit crippling debt they never requested or approved.

But the carbon tax is just one symptom of the broader climate alarmism infecting Canada. Poilievre must reject the naive belief that humanity can control "global temperatures" like a thermostat. Instead, he should prioritize real-world adaptation projects that protect Canadians from extreme weather while rejecting costly, ineffective net-zero schemes.

Canada is in crisis. Fundamental necessities like food, housing, and energy are unaffordable for many. The standard of living has plummeted. The CPC must act decisively by prioritizing Canadians' safety and well-being, championing a "No net-zero" policy, and explaining why this is the right path to restore economic vitality, energy security, and climate resilience.

Net-zero policies have already damaged our nation, and it is time to reject the climate cult, put Canadians first, and focus on real solutions to repair the harm done.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: JOE on March 07, 2025, 11:43:38 PM
....doesn't seem PP likes Trump very much:


Relations with US could be even worse with PP.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: JOE on March 07, 2025, 11:46:33 PM

PP says Trump doesn't like him  very much


....and that he is not a MAGA Guy.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: caskur on March 08, 2025, 05:37:50 AM
Quote from: JOE on February 22, 2025, 01:58:02 PMThe Liberals have had 10 years to run Canada so perhaps it's time to give Conservatives the chance.

However if he gets in I hope Poilivere stands up for Canada and has it's best interests at heart. Don't sell us out to the US & continue Stephen Harper's initiative to strengthen ties with Europe.

The best conservative Prime Ministers Canada has ever had were pro Canadian & staunchly anti American

Ie Sir John A McDonald & John Diefenbaker

Europeans are pig dogs and they'll get their unwanted illegals and dump them in your country.
Title: Re: Pierre Pollivere
Post by: Thiel on March 08, 2025, 05:58:03 PM
Quote from: JOE on March 07, 2025, 11:43:38 PM....doesn't seem PP likes Trump very much:


Relations with US could be even worse with PP.
What Mr Poilivere's "relations" with Donald Trump are, are irrelevant Sweetipie. What matters is if he will reduce the size of the bloated federal civil service, make sure new energy infrastructure gets built, balance the budget, reduce immigration to manageable levels, cut taxes, reduce red tape, and put more money in Canadians pockets.